Flightradar24 Thread Part III

fricatus

TK1969 and TK1997, both Turkish B737MAX aircraft flying to Birmingham and Gatwick respectively are returning to base in Istanbul, presumably because of the UK CAA's announcement.

GM228

fricatus wrote: »

TK1969 and TK1997, both Turkish B737MAX aircraft flying to Birmingham and Gatwick respectively are returning to base in Istanbul, presumably because of the UK CAA's announcement.

Flights already in the air are allowed to continue, I assume they didn't want them grounded in the UK.

Credit Checker Moose

I would be fairly annoyed if I was a passenger on those TK flights.

GM228

fricatus wrote: »

TK1969 and TK1997, both Turkish B737MAX aircraft flying to Birmingham and Gatwick respectively are returning to base in Istanbul, presumably because of the UK CAA's announcement.

Seems all TK 737MAX's are turning back to Istanbul, next to ground?

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1105476716460498949?s=19

glennhysen

EI239 from Gatwick just did a go around and flew straight over my office in Phibsboro!

Nijmegen

GM228 wrote: »

Seems all TK 737MAX's are turning back to Istanbul, next to ground?

I can imagine the onboard announcement. "We're returning to Istanbul as this aircraft has been grounded for safety reasons. Please enjoy the remainder of the flight."

Pussyhands

Nijmegen wrote: »

I can imagine the onboard announcement. "We're returning to Istanbul as this aircraft has been grounded for safety reasons. Please enjoy the remainder of the flight."

Or "We are returning to Istanbul due to safety concerns with this aircraft" :pac::pac::pac:

vicwatson

IAA statement -

https://www.iaa.ie/news/2019/03/12/iaa-statement-boeing-737-max-aircraft-temporary-suspension-of-operations

smurfjed

Yikes, glad that I didn't choose TK for my flight home next week.

Trebor176

A UKL AN12 must be diverting over London. A strange flight path, 2,775 feet, and around half way through it's journey

Jack1985

Trebor176 wrote: »

A UKL AN12 must be diverting over London. A strange flight path, 2,775 feet, and around half way through it's journey

It's landing into London Luton...

PukkaStukka

Trebor176 wrote: »

A UKL AN12 must be diverting over London. A strange flight path, 2,775 feet, and around half way through it's journey

One buzzed over Dublin at teatime. It was a tiny dot up in the sky and the racket was insane!!

Credit Checker Moose

Nijmegen wrote: »

I can imagine the onboard announcement. "We're returning to Istanbul as this aircraft has been grounded for safety reasons. Please enjoy the remainder of the flight."

Pussyhands wrote: »

Or "We are returning to Istanbul due to safety concerns with this aircraft" :pac::pac::pac:

They told the passengers that UK airspace was closed due to weather.

Comhrá

EI387 (LHR-SNN) holding N/E of SNN. Presumably waiting for winds to drop.

Landed safely.

Nijmegen

EI611 (Ams-Dub) had to go around. Landed now.

Oscar Bravo

Ryanairs G-RUKA is currently operating FR4952 from STN-PEG. This afternoon it will operate FR701 from STN-KIR.

Nijmegen

G-CIVT (Virgin Atlantic 789) currently en route as VIR835P LHR-SNN. In for maintenance?

BobbyPropane

TVS202P

Boeing 737 Max over EU Airspace

BZ

Nijmegen wrote: »

G-CIVT (Virgin Atlantic 789) currently en route as VIR835P LHR-SNN. In for maintenance?

First 787-9 in for maintenance for lufthansa technik in SNN since they got approval.

Foggy43

Nijmegen wrote: »

G-CIVT (Virgin Atlantic 789) currently en route as VIR835P LHR-SNN. In for maintenance?

I'm sure you meant G-VSPY.

fricatus

BobbyPropane wrote: »

TVS202P

Boeing 737 Max over EU Airspace

Most likely a positioning flight with no passengers on board. These are allowed AFAIK.

Tenger

fricatus wrote: »

Most likely a positioning flight with no passengers on board. These are allowed AFAIK.

Yup, IATA rules vary for ferry flights vs passenger flights.

Tenzor07

Tenger wrote: »

Yup, IATA rules vary for ferry flights vs passenger flights.

Max 8's stuck all over the EU from the Canary Islands to Finland, so it would seem they aren't allowed to fly empty or full...

BZ

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Max 8's stuck all over the EU from the Canary Islands to Finland, so it would seem they aren't allowed to fly empty or full...

I hear the Norwegians in DUB will be moved to SNN for parking. Probably require a special ferry permit from the authority of the country a Max is in or plans to overfly enroute back to its base.

Tenzor07

BZ wrote: »

I hear the Norwegians in DUB will be moved to SNN for parking. Probably require a special ferry permit from the authority of the country a Max is in or plans to overfly enroute back to its base.

Cheaper parking i'd say, but still can't see them being allowed to fly..

GM228

BZ wrote: »

I hear the Norwegians in DUB will be moved to SNN for parking. Probably require a special ferry permit from the authority of the country a Max is in or plans to overfly enroute back to its base.

They can't fly with an AD in place, it is essentially them loosing their airworthiness certification temporarily.

FAO the EASA AD:

https://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/EASA_AD_2019_0051_E.pdf/EAD_2019-0051-E_1

Bussywussy

GM228 wrote: »

They can't fly with an AD in place, it is essentially them loosing their airworthiness certification temporarily.

FAO the EASA AD:

https://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/EASA_AD_2019_0051_E.pdf/EAD_2019-0051-E_1

Single Ferry flight up to 3 cycles is allowed to a place where corrective action can be carried out if you read the AD

Nijmegen

Surely the issue with them flying is they might come down on someone’s head.

GM228

Bussywussy wrote: »

Single Ferry flight is allowed up to 3 cycles if you read the AD

Thanks, missed that!

GM228

One thing I would wonder is, without knowing what the issue is and therefore not knowing what (if any) corrective action can be taken or more importantly where it can be done, then surely it is not technically possible to fly a non commercial to a place for corrective action just yet?