Late Late Show 8th Jan 16

Martypants1

Deleted User wrote: »

It largely depends on what industry you're in.

I am in engineering.

I don't really see what industry has to do with it. So if you can't get a job because you're a teacher because there's not enough schools...who's to blame?

Second Toughest in_the Freshers

Car99 wrote: »

These are the best 4 they could get

i was expecting better from blindboy, tbh

PeterTheEighth

Car99 wrote: »

These are the best 4 they could get

"A terrible eclecticism is born. "

The Talking Bread

Martypants1 wrote: »

Basically they want successfull outcomes but they don't want people to be successful.

precisely!! its utopia nonsense.

Strazdas

delta_bravo wrote: »

I'd say Robert Ballagh likes to think he would be in the GPO himself if he were around in 1916. He seems to have thought that Rebellion show was meant to be a documentary.

I had a fair idea he'd hate Rebellion, especially as it showed that Irish people held many different opinions at the time and a large number weren't even particularly interested in what Pearse and Connolly were looking for.

qweerty

This poets and intellectuals nonsense has to stop. Almost all the fighters were young and working class. Connolly was the intellectual socialist and Pearse the poet (of questionable ability). Neither fought on that day in 1916. Ballagh characterised them as all having come from the library.

I was led to believe that the Rubberbandits are "fierce smart," but the populist, illinformed stuff we heard from "Blind Boy" put paid to that.

Atlantic Dawn

Eamon Dunphy, Kevin Myers or Ian O'Doherty should have been on the panel.

pew

Martypants1 wrote: »

Agree. Talking ****e.

I'm 24 and I think this country isn't so bad.

Blindboy is just speaking out for people who aren't educated and put all their eggs in one basket.

That all depends on what industry you are in.

I have friends who have gone on to do undergrads and master degrees, they can not find jobs in Ireland as there is no work for them.

I have seen so many friends leave because the country is so bad.

Martypants1

Martypants1 wrote: »

I am in engineering.

I don't really see what industry has to do with it. So if you can't get a job because you're a teacher because there's not enough schools...who's to blame?

The industry has a lot to do with it. Everything to do with it.

People are saying there's plenty of jobs, when there aren't. Let's look at Digital Media, which was Ireland's lovechild ... around 2007/2008. Even later. They were pushing for it and pushing for it, but let's be realistic here: the only jobs available in this industry are for the likes of Google and Facebook.

But they're huge companies, you say.

Here's the thing: there's nowhere near enough jobs within these companies, so the only options are; do something utterly different or move to London, which is pretty much the Mecca for Digital Media roles.

Same goes for nursing. For teaching. We're faced with the reality that this country simply cannot sustain us.

Web developer? Pft. We only want people with journalism backgrounds. Loads of journalists, because a lot of print media shut down.

So, yes, industry has a lot to do with it.

pew wrote: »

That all depends on what industry you are in.

I have friends who have gone on to do undergrads and master degrees, they can not find jobs in Ireland as there is no work for them.

I have seen so many friends leave because the country is so bad.

This is me. I have two degrees and a postgraduate diploma in almost every aspect of my industry and yet I cannot get a job in it whatsoever, because it simply does not exist for me. So now my options are going back, at 30 years of age, and starting fresh, or leaving for London.

The Talking Bread

Second Toughest in_the Freshers wrote: »

i was expecting better from blindboy, tbh

yeah, it was all very scripted on his behalf and he was responding with that script trying to fit in nilly willy points and stats that were often inaccurate or made no sense to what they were discussing. There is a brain there, no doubt, but id say he was nervous going on this and didnt trust his natural instinctive abilities to debate so gathered up a heap of facts into a bag and LITERALLY stuck it on his head!

PeterTheEighth

It's gas that the yanks threw Drumm in jail. And he thought he was gonna avoid jail by going to the States. I know it's a lot to ask for in such an unjust world, but I hope he gets what's coming to him.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

...... but let's be realistic here: the only jobs available in this industry are for the likes of Google and Facebook....



........

That's not being realistic though
It's not even remotely true.

Augeo

Augeo wrote: »

That's not being realistic though
It's not even remotely true.

List some others then. I'm talking about the major ones.

<SNIP> Banned poster

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

List some others then. I'm talking about the major ones.

The bio pharma sector is booming at the moment, Regeneron in Limerick is struggling to hire for their plant. BMS landing a new plant into Cruiserath. Pfizer further investing in Grange Castle.

Between staff and contract there'll be about 2000 jobs out of those 3.

You'll probably say that's not major but if there were 2000 jobs in whatever industry you are qualified in coming up you wouldn't be on here moaning

Augeo

Augeo wrote: »

The bio pharma sector is booming at the moment, Regeneron in Limerick is struggling to hire for their plant. BMS landing a new plant into Cruiserath. Pfizer further investing in Grange Castle.

Between staff and contract there'll be about 2000 jobs out of those 3.

You'll probably say that's not major but if there were 2000 jobs in whatever industry you are qualified in coming up you wouldn't be on here moaning

... you do realize I said, "there's no jobs in this industry", meaning digital media. And then you tell me about bio pharma ...

PeterTheEighth

Augeo wrote: »

You'll probably say that's not major but if there were 2000 jobs in whatever industry you are qualified in coming up you wouldn't be on here moaning

I think until boneyarsebogman clarifies what industry he is working in, you cant make judgement on that. He could be in acting, he could be a nuclear physicist. Either way, having two degrees is a decent achievement, and on that basis he should be given the benefit of the doubt that he is genuinely trying.

PeterTheEighth

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

I think until boneyarsebogman clarifies what industry he is working in, you cant make judgement on that. He could be in acting, he could be a nuclear physicist. Either way, having two degrees is a decent achievement, and on that basis he should be given the benefit of the doubt that he is genuinely trying.

Deleted User wrote: »

The industry has a lot to do with it. Everything to do with it.

People are saying there's plenty of jobs, when there aren't. Let's look at Digital Media, which was Ireland's lovechild ... around 2007/2008. Even later. They were pushing for it and pushing for it, but let's be realistic here: the only jobs available in this industry are for the likes of Google and Facebook.

But they're huge companies, you say.

Here's the thing: there's nowhere near enough jobs within these companies, so the only options are; do something utterly different or move to London, which is pretty much the Mecca for Digital Media roles.

Same goes for nursing. For teaching. We're faced with the reality that this country simply cannot sustain us.

Web developer? Pft. We only want people with journalism backgrounds. Loads of journalists, because a lot of print media shut down.

So, yes, industry has a lot to do with it.



This is me. I have two degrees and a postgraduate diploma in almost every aspect of my industry and yet I cannot get a job in it whatsoever, because it simply does not exist for me. So now my options are going back, at 30 years of age, and starting fresh, or leaving for London.

I pretty much did. For some reason they just decided to cut out the parts where I specifically mentioned Digital Media. Twice.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

... you do realize I said, "there's no jobs in this industry", meaning digital media. And then you tell me about bio pharma ...

lol

Apologies for misreading.

You might see this as a turning point though, do an appropriate night course and lash your CV into the 3 crowds I mentioned :cool:

Augeo

Augeo wrote: »

lol

Apologies for misreading.

You might see this as a turning point though, do an appropriate night course and lash your CV into the 3 crowds I mentioned :cool:

At 30 years old, do you really think they'll hire me over recent graduates who have specifically trained in that field for years? I'm pretty much passed my sell-by-date for anything skilled.

Ha. This is the TV forum. Not Personal Issues.

Yeesh.

What's on TV now?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I pretty much did. For some reason they just decided to cut out the parts where I specifically mentioned Digital Media. Twice.

So did the chap you wrote that to.
So 3 of us misread your post, that might point to something.

JustTheOne

Just because you get a degree in a certain area doesn't entitle you to a job.

You cant get a job in that area well I'm sorry you made a bad decision in picking that degree to pursue.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

At 30 years old, do you really think they'll hire me over recent graduates who have specifically trained in that field for years? I'm pretty much passed my sell-by-date for anything skilled.

I worked in Pfizer Grange Castle when it was Wyeth years ago, they were hiring so many people a girl in the local service station deli got a job and a lad on site with Noonan's cleaners did too

There are quite a few relatively unskilled jobs in these places too, like Intel has loads of people that know sfa about computers, they just do whatever they have trained to do over and over again.

30 is incredibly young all considered. No point hiring all graduates for the production jobs, they'll all leave/move on to other roles when they get the experience, these companies know they need a certain number of people who are very pleased to get their foot in the door and do what they are paid (very well) to for the next 10/20 years.

TCDStudent1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

At 30 years old, do you really think they'll hire me over recent graduates who have specifically trained in that field for years? I'm pretty much passed my sell-by-date for anything skilled.

Ha. This is the TV forum. Not Personal Issues.

Yeesh.

What's on TV now?

Geez 30 isn't old!

The Talking Bread

Deleted User wrote: »

List some others then. I'm talking about the major ones.



Condescending drivel aside, did I place blame on anyone? Nope.

There's plenty of places that see value in the skills I possess ...

... In London.

... And then I realize I'm having this debate in the Television forum and think that I've had far too much internet for today, thank you very much.

London has a far bigger economy.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

...

Web developer? Pft. We only want people with journalism backgrounds. Loads of journalists, because a lot of print media shut down.......

Dunno if you are a web developer or not but if you are you'd quite likely be a good PLC programmer or automation engineer too with a bit of cross training

dublinman1990

My opinions from 1916 to 2016 are that it was a time that many political leaders including most of our modern leaders had so many scandals before them that will make our previous leaders turn in their graves. They were a few good seeds in that bunch to make Ireland a little bit more bearable to live in. But the overall problem was that most of those same leaders up to now haven't been thoroughly able to govern this country in a proper and authoritative manner.

Some of these individuals were still living the realm of corruption. To me those are not the ideals of the 1916 leaders. They were aiming for something much better than that. To me corruption has left a real foul smell in how our country was meant to be governed over the past 100 years. There should be no reason to let corruption fester on into the next 100 years because we would be letting people know in future generations know that yet again; the people of Ireland had failed to stem one of the biggest problems of how to properly live as a true Irish person.

I for one don't even want to imagine it because that would be embarrassing to see out that scenario in the future.

We should know that today; Irish people are not stupid now to know how corruption is carried out behind their backs. It still leaves huge scars on various numbers of communities across this country that can be reprehensible to repair for all. It had shown it's true colours when the Celtic Tiger came aboard to our shores. Some people were living the high life in terms of their wealth and that was good for them but ourselves as individuals should have questioned in a much quicker time than normal. Our greed as a country had soiled our egos for a little while after the bailout. But when we have the tenacious nature within ourselves to keep ourselves together we kept on going when times were hard.

There a lot of other problems in this country right now including outdated laws which it should be thrown out and left out in the cold within the past 100 years. We couldn't even know where to begin with this stuff. The health service, unemployment, poverty, homelessness, suicide and drug addiction rates, abiding rules from the RCC and economic inequality to name but a few. But the things that blight us should make us stronger as a people.

This is not everything about living in a country like Ireland. We're living in a country that still what our ancestors gave us to be and that to be is more generous, supportive and to be more loving to our friends, our loved ones and our family. There are small stems of positivity in all around us Irish that is so beautiful to behold. Over the past 100 years we are beginning to become more tolerant, more welcoming and more forgiving than ever before. To have this level of support shared among our Irish people today is very rewarding in a personal sense.

We are extremely lucky to have that positivity among us as we head into the future. And long may that continue to the next 100 years.

Chrissybhoy

qweerty wrote: »

This poets and intellectuals nonsense has to stop. Almost all the fighters were young and working class. Connolly was the intellectual socialist and Pearse the poet (of questionable ability). Neither fought on that day in 1916. Ballagh characterised them as all having come from the library.

I was led to believe that the Rubberbandits are "fierce smart," but the populist, illinformed stuff we heard from "Blind Boy" put paid to that.

Connolly didn't fight on that day in 1916 nearly sure he was wounded in battle

CatFromHue

The ideals of 1916 were just a dream but 2016 is a reality.

I'd much prefer to grow up in 2016 than 1916 as we still have the same dreams but a better reality.

Atlantic Dawn

CatFromHue wrote: »

The ideals of 1916 were just a dream but 2016 is a reality.

I'd much prefer to grow up in 2016 than 1916 as we still have the same dreams but a better reality.

But 100 years of dreams means the State is a flop if it's not yet a reality.

BuilderPlumber

PeterTheEighth wrote: »

I wasnt taking any chances. I bought the 1 litre of vodka. I was just opening it as I was watching that british report about ANY alcohol being bad for you.

I think we need to mobilise against the atheist's answer to Taliban, the fascist healthocracy is going to be the major post-ISIS threat and it is going to be coming from the West not the East!