Why is not wanting children still a bit of a taboo?

meeeeh

Oh look a troll wandered into this neck of the woods... Unfortunately it's just a common garden troll. A bit dull really.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

That escalated quickly.

Some people make different choices than you would man, it doesn't mean it's the wrong choice. You have absolutely no way of knowing what people's subjective experience of childlessness or parenthood is.

eviltwin

Dog Man Star wrote: »

You need professional help, that is not normal.

Why do I need professional help I'm not the one going around abusing kids.

The only thing my mother needed was the choice and options not to have children. Thankfully today's men and women no longer need to produce offspring in order to satisfy society.

Dog Man Star

Addle wrote: »

Not every child brings every parent joy.
Some children break their parents hearts.
Some parents abandon their children.

Yes, and some pizza is poisonous.

Let me make this very clear: Having a child is the greatest experience a human can have. There is nothing that comes close. My children are everything to me, their happiness makes me happy. I adore them,

Dog Man Star

meeeeh wrote: »

Oh look a troll wandered into this neck of the woods... Unfortunately it's just a common garden troll. A bit dull really.

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eviltwin

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Yes, and some pizza is poisonous.

Let me make this very clear: Having a child is the greatest experience a human can have. There is nothing that comes close. My children are everything to me, their happiness makes me happy. I adore them,

Good for you. Why can you not just be happy with your lot and let others find their own path? What advice do you have for couples unable to have children?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Let me make this very clear: Having a child is the greatest experience a human can have. There is nothing that comes close. My children are everything to me, their happiness makes me happy. I adore them,

I dunno, did you ever wake up and think you have to go to work BUT IT TURNS OUT IT'S SATURDAY AND YOU DON'T? Joygasm

Dog Man Star

eviltwin wrote: »

Good for you. Why can you not just be happy with your lot and let others find their own path? What advice do you have for couples unable to have children?

If they want to have children, but can't, that is sad and I hope they would consider adopting.

meeeeh

Dog Man Star wrote: »

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Still dull.

Dog Man Star

Childless people won't understand this, but when you have a child your first though isn't yourself, it's them. So you don't wake up thinking "I'm knackered", you look immediately to baby who is still sleeping and you smile and kiss your husband.

When baby wakes, you fight over who gets to hold him, though he always wants mummy.

In the afternoon, mummy goes out whlle baby naps. You pray he won't wake up before she's back.

Day over.

eviltwin

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Childless people won't understand this, but when you have a child your first though isn't yourself, it's them. So you don't wake up thinking "I'm knackered", you look immediately to baby who is still sleeping and you smile and kiss your husband.

When baby wakes, you fight over who gets to hold him, though he always wants mummy.

In the afternoon, mummy goes out whlle baby naps. You pray he won't wake up before she's back.

Day over.

For the benefit of the childfree posters it's not like this at all.

Dog Man Star

eviltwin wrote: »

For the benefit of the childfree posters it's not like this at all.

I've got three children and it's being exactly like this. You maybe are of the "jam it in the creche, i'll see you at teatime" generation.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

eviltwin wrote: »

For the benefit of the childfree posters it's not like this at all.

He's leaving out the bit about really, deeply and truly looking forward to having to pee because you get two bloody minutes to yourself. And then the little bollix follows you into the bathroom and ruins your me-time.

I don't even have kids and I know that bit!

intheclouds

Well if having children turns you into a weird looney like our current troll I'm even more glad I don't have them!

In say that, what pills are you on DMS, cos life sounds very fun and surreal on it!

Hoping your mental health issues get under control soon.

I recognise your posting style too, which previous troll are you?

eviltwin

Dog Man Star wrote: »

I've got three children and it's being exactly like this. You maybe are of the "jam it in the creche, i'll see you at teatime" generation.

I have a teenager and my children have special needs. So no, it's not always as blissful as you describe.

It's not really great parenting either to hope your child sleeps through your one on one time so you can pawn him or her over to your spouse. You might want to climb down off your high horse and come back when you actually do a bit of parenting.

Dog Man Star

Lyla Alive Water wrote: »

He's leaving out the bit about really, deeply and truly looking forward to having to pee because you get two bloody minutes to yourself. And then the little bollix follows you into the bathroom and ruins your me-time.

I don't even have kids and I know that bit!

Yes that's true. It makes no odds. Seeing my three babies everyday is wonderful, I am about to spend four days with them this weekend

bronte

Dog Man Star wrote: »

I have been blessed with three children, I adore them and my wonderful wife who takes care of them all day, god bless her. I would never swap places.

Why ever not? Surely you'd be champing at the bit to swap places , no?
Easy to proclaim the joys of parenting to us know-nothings when you get to head out to work all day and return for the kodak moments. :rolleyes:

Dog Man Star

eviltwin wrote: »

I have a teenager and my children have special needs. So no, it's not always as blissful as you describe.

It's not really great parenting either to hope your child sleeps through your one on one time so you can pawn him or her over to your spouse. You might want to climb down off your high horse and come back when you actually do a bit of parenting.

"Pawn them on my spouse", you mean my wife? You know what, **** OFF. What utter bull****.

One eyed Jack

Dog Man Star wrote: »

I've got three children and it's being exactly like this. You maybe are of the "jam it in the creche, i'll see you at teatime" generation.

For you. Other people who aren't you, will see things differently.

Quite frankly, your bizarre notions absolutely don't apply across the board.

eviltwin

Dog Man Star wrote: »

"Pawn them on my spouse", you mean my wife? You know what, **** OFF. What utter bull****.

Now now that's not the kind of language a good responsible parent should be using. I hope your children aren't old enough to read.

eviltwin

intheclouds wrote: »

Well if having children turns you into a weird looney like our current troll I'm even more glad I don't have them!

In say that, what pills are you on DMS, cos life sounds very fun and surreal on it!

Hoping your mental health issues get under control soon.

I recognise your posting style too, which previous troll are you?

He's a regular on the pro life threads in the religious forums

One eyed Jack

Dog Man Star wrote: »

"Pawn them on my spouse", you mean my wife? You know what, **** OFF. What utter bull****.

That escalated even quicker!! :pac:

Mars Bar

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Dog Man Star

Don't post in this thread again.

Gatica

Dog Man Star wrote: »

Childless people won't understand this, but when you have a child your first though isn't yourself, it's them. So you don't wake up thinking "I'm knackered", you look immediately to baby who is still sleeping and you smile and kiss your husband.

When baby wakes, you fight over who gets to hold him, though he always wants mummy.

In the afternoon, mummy goes out whlle baby naps. You pray he won't wake up before she's back.

Day over.

Tbh, this sounds like a miserable existence to me.
I fully understand that we've all just evolved thanks to every species' need and only purpose: to procreate and propagate its genes. In fact once that's done, we're useless to nature, like a praying mantis or matriphagous spiders...
However, I'm delighted we've evolved intellectually and transcended in other ways past that as a species. Now we can enjoy so much more in life than just nature's reason for existing. Some people's only reason for life is their kids, that's sad to me because I think life has so much more to offer us now.. but that's my view of it. Everyone's entitled to their freedom to choose what they want in life, and that's even better.

sullivlo

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Okay folks, we've given enough air time to the nasty posts. The poster has been warned not to post again, so from here on please don't respond to them as they won't be able to respond back.

Sunny Dayz

Without trying to feed the troll, I think his posts have highlighted what people who CHOOSE not to have children are being faced with. That there are people out there who don't accept that there are people who don't have a desire to be a parent, don't wish to experience it or have chosen not to experience it. It shows that there are still people out there who don't accept other peoples thoughts and beliefs when they go against the perceived expected norm.

intheclouds

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Without trying to feed the troll, I think his posts have highlighted what people who CHOOSE not to have children are being faced with. That there are people out there who don't accept that there are people who don't have a desire to be a parent, don't wish to experience it or have chosen not to experience it. It shows that there are still people out there who don't accept other peoples thoughts and beliefs when they go against the perceived expected norm.

Yes this it true.

While Im delighted for anyone who loves being a parent, the frankly dogmatic insistence that there is something wrong with people who dont want children is not nice.

Each to their own, have kids, be happy, dont have kids, be happy, but dont be telling people that there is something wrong with them because they feel differently to you.

Malari

intheclouds wrote: »

Yes this it true.

While Im delighted for anyone who loves being a parent, the frankly dogmatic insistence that there is something wrong with people who dont want children is not nice.

Each to their own, have kids, be happy, dont have kids, be happy, but dont be telling people that there is something wrong with them because they feel differently to you.

I honestly don't care if someone thinks there's something wrong with me. Maybe there is It makes me happy that they will never achieve their aim of persuading me to procreate. :P

TG1

intheclouds wrote: »

Yes this it true.

While Im delighted for anyone who loves being a parent, the frankly dogmatic insistence that there is something wrong with people who dont want children is not nice.

Each to their own, have kids, be happy, dont have kids, be happy, but dont be telling people that there is something wrong with them because they feel differently to you.

Yeh it's the much trotted out "your life won't be complete unless you have children" line that gets my back up...

There's no way to compare quality of life with someone else because you're not living their life, you have no experience of it...

I would never turn around to my friends/family with children and say your life won't be complete till you get rid of them and have time to yourself again, its kind of the same thing!

intheclouds

TG1 wrote: »

I would never turn around to my friends/family with children and say your life won't be complete till you get rid of them and have time to yourself again, its kind of the same thing!

This made me laugh - its true!