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maddness

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Yes about the 30k mark would be where I'm looking. M sport model of course.

The official BMW used car site is very good if you are after something particular.

carsfan2

I think Mickdw has been looking for a decent spec 530e for a while now without any success.
Plenty of bog standard m sport around though.

maddness

https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201911184490635?quoteref=da71d9de-7c22-4361-b0ac-7da5a054e077

Different colour but MSport plus

Wailin

Two things I'd want on the G30 before considering it are m sport plus and visibility pack. Very hard to find both together. This 530d is well specced but BMW dealer price and not mad on the interior trim. Been up for a long time too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-5-series-530d-m-sport/22993973

maddness

Wailin wrote: »

Two things I'd want on the G30 before considering it are m sport plus and visibility pack. Very hard to find both together. This 530d is well specced but BMW dealer price and not mad on the interior trim. Been up for a long time too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-5-series-530d-m-sport/22993973

Yeah I’d my eye on that one, I really like that colour an spec but not it’s cheap.
Great value on a 730d in the UK and a lot more standard equipment too if that’s an option.

drunkmonkey

If it hasn't a sunroof i'd prefer the lighter interior, had a lend of d3 v40 for a few days last week while the tractor was in for a recall, the light learher interior was refreshing in it, felt very spacious with it for a smallish car.

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

Two things I'd want on the G30 before considering it are m sport plus and visibility pack. Very hard to find both together. This 530d is well specced but BMW dealer price and not mad on the interior trim. Been up for a long time too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-5-series-530d-m-sport/22993973

I think you would notice/miss the extra power of the 535d going to a 530d.

Would a G11 740d interest you, a bit more expensive than that G30 but it has all the bells and whistles that most G30s don't have, along with similar bhp to your 535d:
https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2447455&r=s.php%3Fm%3D10%26o%3D89%26r%3D2017%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

MetzgerMeister

bazz26 wrote: »

I think you would notice/miss the extra power of the 535d going to a 530d.]

The torque in the G30 530d is 620Nm as opposed to the F10 535d which is 630 so that's very similar. I know you're also talking 260bhp from the 530 vs the 535 which is 313bhp but would it really be *that* noticeable with torque figures the way they are on a day to day basis?

carsfan2

bazz26 wrote: »

I think you would notice/miss the extra power of the 535d going to a 530d.

Would a G11 740d interest you, a bit more expensive than that G30 but it has all the bells and whistles that most G30s don't have, along with similar bhp to your 535d:
https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2447455&r=s.php%3Fm%3D10%26o%3D89%26r%3D2017%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

I think the g30 is lighter than f10 and the performance from 530d might be close enough to the f10 535d in the real world.
Would be worth a test drive anyway to decide.

7 series is a different proposition altogether. Beautiful car but definitely not what everyone wants. A 5 series blends in more.

Wailin

bazz26 wrote: »

I think you would notice/miss the extra power of the 535d going to a 530d.

Would a G11 740d interest you, a bit more expensive than that G30 but it has all the bells and whistles that most G30s don't have, along with similar bhp to your 535d:
https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2447455&r=s.php%3Fm%3D10%26o%3D89%26r%3D2017%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

I would miss the twin turbo alright bazz, but I know a remap would bring it to stock 535d figures if that's what I wanted. That option is always there.

The 7 is just too big for what I need and a little "extravagant" I suppose for my tastes.

I plan on taking that 440i for a spin in Waterford next week as I'll be in the area. I know it's a big drop in class to the f10 but it's well specced compared to the average 4 series, just not sure of that bright blue colour until I see it. Very keen to see what the B58 feels like. There'll be a big increase in running costs, which is something to think about too.

I think a nicely specced 530i would suit me the best. I'd take the much better tech and having a fresher car over the big drop in power. Mine is a 6 year old car now with 78k miles and I'm a bit apprehensive about things starting to go wrong with it. You really should be looking at 200k miles easily with these cars but MM's experience and online reading about the N57 engine is a little worrying. Valdas seems to do the timing chain on them regularly enough going by his facebook posts.

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

I would miss the twin turbo alright bazz, but I know a remap would bring it to stock 535d figures if that's what I wanted. That option is always there.

The 7 is just too big for what I need and a little "extravagant" I suppose for my tastes.

I plan on taking that 440i for a spin in Waterford next week as I'll be in the area. I know it's a big drop in class to the f10 but it's well specced compared to the average 4 series, just not sure of that bright blue colour until I see it. Very keen to see what the B58 feels like. There'll be a big increase in running costs, which is something to think about too.

I think a nicely specced 530i would suit me the best. I'd take the much better tech and having a fresher car over the big drop in power. Mine is a 6 year old car now with 78k miles and I'm a bit apprehensive about things starting to go wrong with it. You really should be looking at 200k miles easily with these cars but MM's experience and online reading about the N57 engine is a little worrying. Valdas seems to do the timing chain on them regularly enough going by his facebook posts.

I hear ya about the 7 Series, would be too big for my needs too. I'd be happy to move down to a more nimble G20 being honest.

Let us know how you get on with the 440i, will be interesting to hear what sort of cost to change figures they will be quoting or how eager they are to shift that 440i. I'd say it's a cracking car to drive but as you said running costs would be higher however if your not doing big mileage then it might be palatable. I'd be interested in such a car too but as I was saying earlier only if it were sub 40k though.

Won't be changing my self this year, getting my amp problem diagnosed on Monday and tax due at the end of the month so will probably keep it for another year to get some value from those outlays. Mine's been out of warranty for a year now that I got from the non BMW dealer I bought it from so fingers crossed there won't be any major expenses.

carsfan2

Wailin wrote: »

I would miss the twin turbo alright bazz, but I know a remap would bring it to stock 535d figures if that's what I wanted. That option is always there.

The 7 is just too big for what I need and a little "extravagant" I suppose for my tastes.

I plan on taking that 440i for a spin in Waterford next week as I'll be in the area. I know it's a big drop in class to the f10 but it's well specced compared to the average 4 series, just not sure of that bright blue colour until I see it. Very keen to see what the B58 feels like. There'll be a big increase in running costs, which is something to think about too.

I think a nicely specced 530i would suit me the best. I'd take the much better tech and having a fresher car over the big drop in power. Mine is a 6 year old car now with 78k miles and I'm a bit apprehensive about things starting to go wrong with it. You really should be looking at 200k miles easily with these cars but MM's experience and online reading about the N57 engine is a little worrying. Valdas seems to do the timing chain on them regularly enough going by his facebook posts.

I had a 420d gc as a loaner and coming from a 5 series was very disappointed with the interior but that 440i has upgraded merino leather and digital cockpit which should make it a much nicer place to be. The engine is obviously the main attraction though.
As Bazz says let us know how you get on. It’s virtually a new car for almost half price. I would look for them to give you a two year warranty not just the remaining new car warranty and also service pack.

MetzgerMeister

The warranty can be extended but for a price. I was offered this when I bought mine and 1 year was around €800.00.

Wailin

It doesn't come with the 2 yr AUC warranty? I thought that was standard on all used cars from bmw dealers.

MetzgerMeister

Wailin wrote: »

It doesn't come with the 2 yr AUC warranty? I thought that was standard on all used cars from bmw dealers.

It did but this €800 was to extend the original warranty I think.

Mooooo

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The torque in the G30 530d is 620Nm as opposed to the F10 535d which is 630 so that's very similar. I know you're also talking 260bhp from the 530 vs the 535 which is 313bhp but would it really be *that* noticeable with torque figures the way they are on a day to day basis?

No experience of driving either but from reviews is it more the power delivery rather than the power itself, the 535 being over a wider rev range.?

carsfan2

Wailin wrote: »

It doesn't come with the 2 yr AUC warranty? I thought that was standard on all used cars from bmw dealers.

Sometimes the newer stuff isn’t sold through the approved used programme.
My car was 9 months old when I bought it and the warranty was the original 3 year warranty not an approved used one. It costs the dealer who pays BMW for the 2 yr AUC warranty, so to save themselves money as the car has such small mileage and a few months of original warranty, they might insert into the sale agreement “remainder of manufacturers warranty” in the small print.

Wailin

Mooooo wrote: »

No experience of driving either but from reviews is it more the power delivery rather than the power itself, the 535 being over a wider rev range.?

Exactly. The 530d has more of a mid range punch whereas the extra turbo in the 535d gives it that punch from the minute you floor it no matter where you are on the revs. It really is noticeable, even though the 0-60 times are not too different. It's how it reacts in the real world overtaking is where they differ.

Wailin

Over 30k extra spec on these 530e's lads, very tempting to have a look. Anyone know of the dealer?

Big difference to a 3 litre petrol but some tech on them!

I like the moon stone colour on the first one.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/530e-m-sport-32k-extras-read-the-factory-spec/24389588

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/172-530e-m-sport-32k-extras-read-the-factory-spec/24253721

Big Nasty

Don't know if I'm ready for electric yet. I do think I'll go X-Drive in my next car. Actually thinking of downsizing as I don't find the 5er agile enough in the twisties. 335d Sport Touring X-Drive in Estoril Blue with beige leather would be the perfect combo.

drunkmonkey

If you were going hybrid how about a Panamera like https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/panamera-3-0-s-e-hybrid-hugh-specbose-upgrade/24277121 Maybe MarkN will give us 2 cent on the Panamera V's a 530e.
Will you really keep plugging both of them in though?


Or this seems like a reasonably priced Macan S diesel. It's cheap for a 17 not sure why. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/porsche-macan-s-3-0d-v6-pdk-luxury-spec/22570571

maddness

Wailin wrote: »

Over 30k extra spec on these 530e's lads, very tempting to have a look. Anyone know of the dealer?

Big difference to a 3 litre petrol but some tech on them!

I like the moon stone colour on the first one.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/530e-m-sport-32k-extras-read-the-factory-spec/24389588

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/172-530e-m-sport-32k-extras-read-the-factory-spec/24253721

I love the black one that’s sold but don’t really like the other colour, they just look light grey in the metal.
In fairness though that car has a brilliant spec.
Don’t have any experience of the dealer but he seems to have plenty of nice spec 5 series and I’d imagine they are all from the UK. Worth a look anyway

carsfan2

In spite of the mileage being higher than lots of other 530e’s for sale I don’t think that moonstone will hang around. With that spec someone will snap it up.
Very nice car but it would be nowhere as fast as your 535d. Also will be out of factory warranty so be sure you get one with this as any BMW has potential for big bills.
The rear screens and a few more bits though wouldn’t interest me. Comfort, visibility, m sport plus and possibly tech pack more than enough to make a lovely car.
Also it’s important that your driving suits hybrid. If you do lots of shorter trips with the ability to plug in regularly and overnight then great but if you’re on the motorway or longer journeys a fair bit, diesel may be better.

Heres Johnny

I might take a trip up to have a look at the 530e,,seems to have plenty of nice 5s. I'll report back

MarkN

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you were going hybrid how about a Panamera like https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/panamera-3-0-s-e-hybrid-hugh-specbose-upgrade/24277121 Maybe MarkN will give us 2 cent on the Panamera V's a 530e.
Will you really keep plugging both of them in though?


Or this seems like a reasonably priced Macan S diesel. It's cheap for a 17 not sure why. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/porsche-macan-s-3-0d-v6-pdk-luxury-spec/22570571

A family member gave me his Panamera Hybrid last year, he has literally never charged the battery and drives everywhere in S mode

Different car to a 530e, one is a Porsche, the other is a 5 series with a battery in the back. If you had the option, there's only one answer and it ain't the BMW.

Heres Johnny

MarkN wrote: »

A family member gave me his Panamera Hybrid last year, he has literally never charged the battery and drives everywhere in S mode

Different car to a 530e, one is a Porsche, the other is a 5 series with a battery in the back. If you had the option, there's only one answer and it ain't the BMW.

Panamera is beautiful but it's not a 5 series competitor really is it? Maybe closer to m5 than standard 5s

MarkN

No, to be fair it's not but it was the dilemma proposed above. I'd rather an M5 over a Panamera, a hybrid one anyway. I've only driven an M5 for 10 mins but it was incredible.

drunkmonkey

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Panamera is beautiful but it's not a 5 series competitor really is it? Maybe closer to m5 than standard 5s

It's in his price bracket though, could always opt for the diesel. Have a mate working in the NCT he reckons there the best built cars that come in for testing.

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

Over 30k extra spec on these 530e's lads, very tempting to have a look. Anyone know of the dealer?

Big difference to a 3 litre petrol but some tech on them!

I like the moon stone colour on the first one.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/530e-m-sport-32k-extras-read-the-factory-spec/24389588

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/172-530e-m-sport-32k-extras-read-the-factory-spec/24253721

Nice cars but those prices are very close to main dealer prices. I'd doubt you will be getting a main dealer warranty with them though and those cars have lots of tech to potentially go wrong.

Heres Johnny

I went for a look at the 530e this morning, very, very nice indeed. Impressed so much my next car will certainly be a g30 now. But I have to go to UK for one, the pricing is too strong here and I'll have to sell mine privately.
For the record against the 39k 530e 2017 model which has 65k kms on it, I was offered 14k allowance for my 2014 A6 2.0 TDI with 85k kms on it.
So it will be private sale on A6 and then onto the UK with cash in my pocket for a 530e.