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    #1502
    EnzoScifo
    Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭EnzoScifo


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Not blown away

    It's better than before, but not by much. Pretty much all retail planned has been changed to office or student accommodation use.

    Their measures to keep South main Street "live" are a couple of kiosks and a ticket booth.

    This needs to happen though. Town felt like a different place when the marquee and Musgrave park gigs were on


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    #1503
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The amount of dead frontage on to South Main Street is disappointing but we're not going to get better at this stage. Just build it!!!


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    #1504
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    That design is awful, particularly around the counting house from the looks of those images. It's almost like they don't want PP.


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    #1505
    Frostybrew
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Frostybrew


    Auditorium has a 70's feel to it. Is that the music they're going for?


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    #1506
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Im coming around to the round arse to it. No so the North main st. When its not in use, it'll be just a big wall with a few signs.

    Its not exactly going to appear in table quizes "in what city is this building"?

    Is there a design statement somewhere to provide some rationale for the design?

    Is better than nothing good enough?


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    #1507
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Not blown away

    Neither am I, it would be nice to see something daring and ground breaking.


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    #1508
    Former Observer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 474 ✭✭Former Observer


    The south main street side looks a bit naff.


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    #1509
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Really poor but as someone else has said, maybe it's the best we will get.
    The architects should be embarrassed with this.


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    #1510
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    The exterior isn’t notable (as others have said), but I’d take it at this stage. Important that it’s right on the interior.
    Still don’t believe we’ll see any progress anytime soon.


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    #1511
    leahyl
    Registered Users Posts: 14,255 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Saw Coveney in Aldi today - was tempted to ask him what the hell is going on! :-P


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    #1512
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    leahyl wrote: »
    Saw Coveney in Aldi today - was tempted to ask him what the hell is going on! :-P

    I'd be more inclined to ask what the fcuk he's doing in Aldi.
    Next, he'll be spotted in Michael Guineys...


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    #1513
    leahyl
    Registered Users Posts: 14,255 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    I'd be more inclined to ask what the fcuk he's doing in Aldi.
    Next, he'll be spotted in Michael Guineys...

    :-P

    We all love a bargain!


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    #1514
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    leahyl wrote: »
    :-P

    We all love a bargain!

    Was he in for the foot spa and 2 man tents on special?


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    #1515
    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,018 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    namloc1980 wrote: »
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    Renders of the revised plans.

    Awful looking design in that second pic. Very boxy and overshadowing the counting house.


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    #1516
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,538 ✭✭✭kub


    I imagine An Taisce will stick in their oar and join the queue to delay this project.


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    #1517
    flo8s967qjh0nd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    kub wrote: »
    I imagine An Taisce will stick in their oar and join the queue to delay this project.

    A really awful design that is widely criticised here and elsewhere and yet An Taisce are the bad guys for saying "hold on a minute, this is sh*t. We can do better".
    I don't get this An Taisce bashing nonsense.


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    #1518
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Nancy Unkempt Shop wrote: »
    I don't get this An Taisce bashing nonsense.
    Check out their history of pathetic objections. They ridicule themselves and have become a joke.


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    #1519
    blindsider
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭blindsider


    An Taisce...?

    Utter waste of money and resources...........

    I could go on but it'd de-rail the thread.

    New design is un-inspiring, but for God's sake BUILD THE DAMN THING!!!


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    #1520
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    blindsider wrote: »
    New design is un-inspiring, but for God's sake BUILD THE DAMN THING!!!

    Developers love that kind of thinking. It's no wonder we have such a legacy of crap buildings from the boom.

    It'll be grand...


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    #1521
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    The original design with the wrap around glass window was much, much nicer.

    CorkEventCentre_large.jpg


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    #1522
    spillcoe
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭spillcoe


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    The original design with the wrap around glass window was much, much nicer.

    Agreed, looks a lot better


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    #1523
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,016 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Pointless debating it, it will still never be built.


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    #1524
    Lackadaisical
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Lackadaisical


    That boxy bit reminds me of a 1970s brutalisist office block.

    Clearly the budget is too low to do this with any kind of style so it will end up looking awful.


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    #1525
    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,440 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    rob316 wrote: »
    Pointless debating it, it will still never be built.

    Never say never, it'll definitely get dragged out for ages, with ever higher amounts needed to subsidise the development.. It'll be held onto till the next construction slowdown, when bam have gone quiet, and can get it built more cheaply, and if in the meantime they are allowed put in more commercial office space, and more student accommodation, and get the government to pay for the bridges and public realm parts then all the better,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    #1526
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    The original design with the wrap around glass window was much, much nicer.

    CorkEventCentre_large.jpg

    Is this the view that was "too defensive"?


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    #1527
    blindsider
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭blindsider


    tototoe wrote: »
    Developers love that kind of thinking. It's no wonder we have such a legacy of crap buildings from the boom.

    It'll be grand...

    Mmm. You have a point - but, if they don't build it, what then? What happens the site, and do we have an alternative EC proposal?

    The city needs an Events Centre and several other projects e.g. the hotel on Sullivan's Quay are EC-dependant.

    It may not be an inspiring, but is it not better than the alternative?


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    #1528
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    blindsider wrote: »
    Mmm. You have a point - but, if they don't build it, what then? What happens the site, and do we have an alternative EC proposal?

    The city needs an Events Centre and several other projects e.g. the hotel on Sullivan's Quay are EC-dependant.

    It may not be an inspiring, but is it not better than the alternative?

    It needs more than an events centre, a lot more and this folly should be well down the list imo. The city wants an event centre, but it not needed in any serious urgent way.
    I also do not believe the state should be putting money into this for a private operator to profit on, but that's just me.


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    #1529
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    tototoe wrote: »
    It needs more than an events centre, a lot more and this folly should be well down the list imo. The city wants an event centre, but it not needed in any serious urgent way.
    I also do not believe the state should be putting money into this for a private operator to profit on, but that's just me.

    Serious economic benefit to an Events Centre, it is hardly a folly


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    #1530
    tototoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭tototoe


    snotboogie wrote: »
    Serious economic benefit to an Events Centre, it is hardly a folly


    Well if it's that much of a bonanza, let the developer build and fund itt themselves. Same diatribe around PUC and has rarely had a capacity crowd since built and even then it was ed Sheeran and a soccer game.

    If there is that much return from these projects, then there is no need for public money to be used. If the developer needs public money to make it viable, then it's either not viable or they are getting money for nothing


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    #1531
    snotboogie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    tototoe wrote: »
    Well if it's that much of a bonanza, let the developer build and fund itt themselves. Same diatribe around PUC and has rarely had a capacity crowd since built and even then it was ed Sheeran and a soccer game.

    If there is that much return from these projects, then there is no need for public money to be used. If the developer needs public money to make it viable, then it's either not viable or they are getting money for nothing

    The economic benefit im talking about wouldn't be felt by the developer, it would be other businesses in the city; hotels, bars, shops, restaurants etc. I was against PUC from day 1 btw, no way a stadium that excludes other sports should ever be getting public funding, this is a far more sensible project. It is normal for entertainment venues to get a public sector leg up to benefit the local economy at a later date.


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