Eir rural FTTH thread

ACLFC7

The Naas exchange says "3800 premises able to access 1000Mb/s fibre" but there are no blue lines in that area. Weird?

tsue921i8wljb3

ACLFC7 wrote: »

The Naas exchange says "3800 premises able to access 1000Mb/s fibre" but there are no blue lines in that area. Weird?

No not weird. It is part of the 66 towns announced in 2014. The locations are mostly larger urban areas.

http://www.openeir.ie/news/open_eir_to_Offer_Gigabit_Broadband_Speeds/

jd

ACLFC7 wrote:

The Naas exchange says "3800 premises able to access 1000Mb/s fibre" but there are no blue lines in that area. Weird?

Blue lines are for rural line out. Naas is one of the urban areas where eir said they'd roll out ftth.

plodder

We're still down as Winter 2016/Spring 2017. It's hard to know whether that is actually the current thinking, or they just haven't gotten round to updating the date.

rob808

plodder wrote: »

We're still down as Winter 2016/Spring 2017. It's hard to know whether that is actually the current thinking, or they just haven't gotten round to updating the date.

Im the same winter 2016/Spring 2017 it hard to say why the others got push back to next year.

damienirel

Just trying to make sense out of the new dates. It looks like to me the areas getting delayed are those that don't have many cabinets in place yet. So they are probably are just revising the dates now that they know it may be a slower rollout to those areas. I expect all of those dates to change radically once this thing starts. Logistically the map looks like a nightmare the teams working on this will hardly move from one end of a county to the other surely they will move to adjacent exchange areas and so on.

ussjtrunks

So guys on the map it says the Killavullen "Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live" as I'm about 4km from the exchange would that be of any use or will I still need to wait for FTTH?

daraghwal

ussjtrunks wrote: »

So guys on the map it says the Killavullen "Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live" as I'm about 4km from the exchange would that be of any use or will I still need to wait for FTTH?

You'll have to wait unfortunately!

Dero

ussjtrunks wrote: »

So guys on the map it says the Killavullen "Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live" as I'm about 4km from the exchange would that be of any use or will I still need to wait for FTTH?

4km from the exchange, or your closest cabinet? 4km is way too far for VDSL, but if you have a cabinet closer you may OK.

ussjtrunks

Dero wrote: »

4km from the exchange, or your closest cabinet? 4km is way too far for VDSL, but if you have a cabinet closer you may OK.

The cabinet seems to be in killavullen town so yeah it'd be 4km

Redriddick

I see a tweet from open eir that if the blue line does not go past your house,you are goosed and will have to wait for the NBP

legocrazy505

Redriddick wrote: »

I see a tweet from open eir that if the blue line does not go past your house,you are goosed and will have to wait for the NBP

Well, to be honest, you could be on a blue line and still be goosed since they aren't definitive lines and there's no binding contract that I'm aware of for Eir to do FTTH to all those houses. If you get realistic though you'll more than likely be waiting just as long blue line or no blue line.

rob808

legocrazy505 wrote: »

Well, to be honest, you could be on a blue line and still be goosed since they aren't definitive lines and there's no binding contract that I'm aware of for Eir to do FTTH to all those houses. If you get realistic though you'll more than likely be waiting just as long blue line or no blue line.

They update the map every fortnight I would imagine if you weren't getting FTTH and you were on the blue line they would remove you from it otherwise there misleading people into think there getting FTTH.

Gonzo

legocrazy505 wrote: »

Well, to be honest, you could be on a blue line and still be goosed since they aren't definitive lines and there's no binding contract that I'm aware of for Eir to do FTTH to all those houses. If you get realistic though you'll more than likely be waiting just as long blue line or no blue line.

I think everyone who is on a blue line will get it. Eir have already put alot of research into the lines for it to be financially viable for them to do so. It would make them look very poor if they just backed away from it to leave people high and dry. Would be very poor for their NBP bid as well.

watch this video on the rollout website called 'Strategic Planning', this video shows video footage of engineers planning the blue lines using data such as demographics to plan.

after the 1st video at the top of the page, its the first video on the left titled 'Strategic Planning'.

http://www.openeir.ie/ruralfibre/

MBSnr

Gonzo wrote: »

I think everyone who is on a blue line will get it. Eir have already put alot of research into the lines for it to be financially viable for them to do so. It would make them look very poor if they just backed away from it to leave people high and dry. Would be very poor for their NBP bid as well.

watch this video on the rollout website called 'Strategic Planning', this video shows video footage of engineers planning the blue lines using data such as demographics to plan.

after the 1st video at the top of the page, its the first video on the left titled 'Strategic Planning'.

http://www.openeir.ie/ruralfibre/

Yeah there is certainly some logical planning, which is great. There's a road near me that loops down to a plant and machinery business, a B&B and a few houses, which is blue lined. It's the only one off the main road like this, which means they assessed it before adding it.

long_b

Gonzo wrote: »

after the 1st video at the top of the page, its the first video on the left titled 'Strategic Planning'.

http://www.openeir.ie/ruralfibre/

Those videos are well worth a watch - gives quite a few hard numbers on the number of crews involved etc ..

BandMember

Gonzo wrote: »

I think everyone who is on a blue line will get it. Eir have already put alot of research into the lines for it to be financially viable for them to do so. It would make them look very poor if they just backed away from it to leave people high and dry.

You see, I would question this (and have done so before). In some of the counties I would know well, the blue lines make no sense whatsoever in that there is absolutely nobody living there and/or in a couple of cases, they basically at the top of mountain, miles from the nearest house. Unless Eir are sneakily trying to cover themselves by either taking areas out of the NBP and/or making them the only show in town to connect up vast areas by putting their infrastructure in place so that whoever goes into that area will have to use it? They've certainly overlooked some of the larger markets (in terms of villages and towns) and put blue lines in areas where they would be lucky to get 10-20 customers!

Or maybe I am completely wrong........

Johnboy1951

BandMember wrote: »

You see, I would question this (and have done so before). In some of the counties I would know well, the blue lines make no sense whatsoever in that there is absolutely nobody living there and/or in a couple of cases, they basically at the top of mountain, miles from the nearest house. Unless Eir are sneakily trying to cover themselves by either taking areas out of the NBP and/or making them the only show in town to connect up vast areas by putting their infrastructure in place so that whoever goes into that area will have to use it? They've certainly overlooked some of the larger markets (in terms of villages and towns) and put blue lines in areas where they would be lucky to get 10-20 customers!

Or maybe I am completely wrong........

It could hardly be called sneaky if they have published the route of the fibre :eek:

BandMember

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

It could hardly be called sneaky if they have published the route of the fibre :eek:

Published does not mean provided. That might have been the wrong word, but you get what I mean... (I hope! :pac:)

rob808

BandMember wrote: »

Published does not mean provided. That might have been the wrong word, but you get what I mean... (I hope! :pac:)

They do physical route surveys by third party they would follow the blue line and report back to open eir if there any problems and could change the route if need.

The Cush

According to a tweet from open-eir earlier in reply to Ireland offline they are developing a new graphic system to show progress in deploying FTTH

https://twitter.com/openeir/status/773119215620546560

https://twitter.com/openeir/status/773119662599053312

KOR101

They said in one of the videos that there is 23,000kms of fibre that must be laid. Can someone remind me how much they said they could lay each week.

guil

KOR101 wrote: »

They said in one of the videos that there is 23,000kms of fibre that must be laid. Can someone remind me how much they said they could lay each week.

I think it was around 600km?

KOR101

guil wrote: »

I think it was around 600km?

Thanks, that's per month, so 3.2 years. Maybe things can happen faster than we imagine, with the exception of the last 5 per cent.

Johnboy1951

eir had previously claimed the fibre could be laid much faster than the 5 years estimated, after signing a contract, and even indicated a 3 year estimate roll out.

The figures quoted would seem to indicate they are capable of doing this.

If they get the blue lines well started prior to the contract award, and they win the contract, then they should be well capable of doing 90% within 3 years ........ based on figure quoted and trained man hours available.

KeRbDoG

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/dublin/

Error in their "Click for Map"- links to a blank test pdf from 2014

* shakes fist! *

Johnboy1951

KeRbDoG wrote: »

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/dublin/

Error in their "Click for Map"- links to a blank test pdf from 2014

* shakes fist! *

Is Dublin the only county with a 'Click for Map' link?

pegasus1

KeRbDoG wrote: »

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/dublin/

Error in their "Click for Map"- links to a blank test pdf from 2014

* shakes fist! *

Now its a blank page showing TEST.... so forget about it and tune in next week...lol

Oh didnt see test in your rant... :eek:

links to a blank test pdf from 2014

KeRbDoG

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Is Dublin the only county with a 'Click for Map' link?

Seems like it from the few I checked

pegasus1 wrote: »

Oh didnt see test in your rant... :eek:

Rant eh?

Gonzo

KeRbDoG wrote: »

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/dublin/

Error in their "Click for Map"- links to a blank test pdf from 2014

* shakes fist! *

that's been there since they relaunched the county pages several months ago. Terrible update really, basically the same information for every county, copy and paste job just different figures and gives no idea where or when FTTH will happen.