Eir rural FTTH thread

Gonzo

5 days per week averages at about 27km per day Monday-Friday, about 22 work days per month.

tsue921i8wljb3

Gonzo wrote: »

5 days per week averages at about 27km per day Monday-Friday, about 22 work days per month.

Spilt over an unknown number of crews. I tend to agree with you though. I think it is very unlikely to be completed by March 2017.

daraghwal

When you think about it, it is still possible that it could be done by March. We simply do not know how much work has gone on in exchanges to date. For all we know it could be just a matter of rolling the wire out which could potentially be a very straight forward process. Have faith people! I was talking to an eir technician (nothing to do with the rollout, just fixing my line) who said he was in the exchange one day when a planning crew came in and started working on the exchange in relation to the ftth rollout. This was a couple of months ago in a rural exchange with a FTTH due date of Winter 2016/Spring 2017 according to the fibrerollout.ie map.

Gonzo

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Spilt over an unknown number of crews. I tend to agree with you though. I think it is very unlikely to be completed by March 2017.

With many places down for Autumn/Winter 2016, others down for Winter/Spring 2017 and the extent of coverage to be wired for the first 100,00 homes, I thought several areas would be well heading towards completion by now. It's now 1st September and still no signs of any wiring taking place and that's what worries me.

Perhaps the wiring process will go much faster than I'm thinking but if were still all sitting in the same boat waiting by October I would really begin to question will anywhere see it live before Christmas!

Fingers crossed next week we will see/read multiple reports of areas getting wired up. Once an area is wired up, I would imagine there would be a bit of a wait for testing etc before the product becomes orderable.

_kookie

damienirel wrote: »

Hi Gonzo - I think I would have been skeptical about the dates too but I think they won't be too long rolling this out - I'd assume they are busy getting the exchanges ready at the moment. Running the new fibre lines will be a very quick job - what will take time I'd imagine is actually getting it setup in the home. A new line went up a year or 2 ago in a field near me to service a new house - what I'm wondering is have they already ran a fibre line on it? Maybe somebody here could answer that?

I think that once the line is run that the job of connecting into houses should be outsourced.
You should be able to use several different companies competing with each other for it.
The way it is now they have a captive market and can take as long as they like to get it into the customers house.

rob808

Gonzo wrote: »

With many places down for Autumn/Winter 2016, others down for Winter/Spring 2017 and the extent of coverage to be wired for the first 100,00 homes, I thought several areas would be well heading towards completion by now. It's now 1st September and still no signs of any wiring taking place and that's what worries me.

Perhaps the wiring process will go much faster than I'm thinking but if were still all sitting in the same boat waiting by October I would really begin to question will anywhere see it live before Christmas!

Fingers crossed next week we will see/read multiple reports of areas getting wired up. Once an area is wired up, I would imagine there would be a bit of a wait for testing etc before the product becomes orderable.

It only the first day of Autumn they probably start next week.There probably still doing pole testing and finishing of the FTTC rollout which still isn't done yet.Im still waiting on phase 1 to start in my area and your going onto phase 2 soon the Fibre run and then phase 3 which is the hardest connect up people houses to FTTH.

I say you probably won't be able to order it till January.I remember when I was waiting to get connected to UPC which is now virgin they cable up my estate September but couldn't order it till December because they had to wait till my house was on the system.

digiman

daraghwal wrote: »

When you think about it, it is still possible that it could be done by March. We simply do not know how much work has gone on in exchanges to date. For all we know it could be just a matter of rolling the wire out which could potentially be a very straight forward process. Have faith people! I was talking to an eir technician (nothing to do with the rollout, just fixing my line) who said he was in the exchange one day when a planning crew came in and started working on the exchange in relation to the ftth rollout. This was a couple of months ago in a rural exchange with a FTTH due date of Winter 2016/Spring 2017 according to the fibrerollout.ie map.

The exchange work is the relatively easy part!! The rollout of fibre can run into a lot of difficulties, however from reading on here they seem to be doing lots of preparation work which will take alot of the hard work out of it. It also depends what they claim to be "passed", as it is rural areas they will probably just run fibre literally along the blue lines with fibre drop points along the way.

They will though have huge costs then in getting the fibre from the blue line to your home. I would imagine they will have most of their drops connectorized so when it comes to connecting up the house they should no longer need any splicers but it could still cost a lot if you are far from the blue line!!

It's going to be an interesting 6-9 months ahead and also the cumulation of the NBP coming as well :)

Pique

If you're down a side road a few hundred metres from the blue line, would there need to be a cabinet to split off a fibre line to you? How about copper line connecting to the fibre, would that be on the cards?

ItHurtsWhenIP

Pique wrote: »

If you're down a side road a few hundred metres from the blue line, would there need to be a cabinet to split off a fibre line to you?

Nope - you won't get it until the NBP rolls around.

Pique wrote: »

How about copper line connecting to the fibre, would that be on the cards?

What you are referring to here is G.FAST, which some on here have said is a possibility where there is a cluster of houses close by (500m range of the DP). But there has been nothing formally stated yet.

ED E

_kookie wrote: »

I think that once the line is run that the job of connecting into houses should be outsourced.
You should be able to use several different companies competing with each other for it.
The way it is now they have a captive market and can take as long as they like to get it into the customers house.

KNN have it all. They've absorbed most of the others by now and already fill most of OpenEis fieldwork. It'll be an Eir planner with a KNN civils team followed by a KNN blowing team and finally KNN for appointments if recent history is anything to go by.

I can see all the DPs being available almost in time, but there'll be a queue for appointments as it won't be 2hr slots and 20mins of work like VDSL. 2 slots per day wouldn't be unreasonable as you don't know where the problems lie until you try.

jd

Seems to be available now in Parts of the Killinick Exchange area (Wexford, near Johnstown Castle).

tsue921i8wljb3

jd wrote: »

Seems to be available now in Parts of the Killinick Exchange area (Wexford, near Johnstown Castle).

Would that area have been part of the 100000 rural rollout?

Sorry it is. I just checked the openeir announcement.

Danny Boy

They've posted this, no hard dates in it though, more about what they plan to do

http://www.openeir.ie/ruralfibre/

Pique

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Nope - you won't get it until the NBP rolls around.


What you are referring to here is G.FAST, which some on here have said is a possibility where there is a cluster of houses close by (500m range of the DP). But there has been nothing formally stated yet.

Ach. Just checked the distance. I'm looking at 1km off the blue route. I'm snookered then I take it. Imagine or wait for NBP, yeah?

ItHurtsWhenIP

Pique wrote: »

Ach. Just checked the distance. I'm looking at 1km off the blue route. I'm snookered then I take it. Imagine or wait for NBP, yeah?

Afraid so. Yeah.

Have you looked at Fixed Wireless? Check this Map - Tick Wireless ISPs and see who covers you.

Shyboy

I see KN are back moving on with the FTTH work in our area. We are due for Autumn/Winter 2016 and about 2 miles down the road today they are pushing orange cable through the new manholes which appeared lately.

I see that all of the poles that already have been done have a bright blue loop of cable coming from them, would that be them ready to connect up to homes?

They are getting nearer to me...

tsue921i8wljb3

Does anybody have any information or speculation on the design of the network? I am particularly interested in the location of the splitters. I was wondering if they will use a multi level split as in the diagram.



The second level splitters in this scenario would most likely be pole mounted. I suppose they could be connectorised but if they had to be spliced it would add delay to the rollout.

Any theories?

Gonzo

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Would that area have been part of the 100000 rural rollout?

Sorry it is. I just checked the openeir announcement.

would love to know when did they start wiring up that area and how soon afterwards was the product order-able! I presume this is the rural rollout, if so must be the first area to go live/be at an advanced stage.

chewed

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

There's a thread about Imagine's service here. At first it seemed all was brilliant, but there are more recent poor performance reports coming in.

Cheers for that. interesting reading there. I think I might just stick to the devil I know and keep my 3 broadband for the time being. At least I'll save €250 when FTTH is rolled out. My son is back at school so at least my monthly usage won't be shooting down!

Gonzo

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Would that area have been part of the 100000 rural rollout?

Sorry it is. I just checked the openeir announcement.

I checked a bit more around the area and it seems only that small estate is activated, further up the road in another estate there is nothing currently available and it's blue lined as well. Perhaps this is an initial test area. Surprising as well that Eir have not announced this FTTH live in their weekly tech bytes updates.

The exchange is further down the road in a different village and there is no FTTC rollout in the area, it's a straight to FTTH exchange.

ItHurtsWhenIP

Gonzo wrote: »

I checked a bit more around the area and it seems only that small estate is activated, further up the road in another estate there is nothing currently available and it's blue lined as well. Perhaps this is an initial test area. Surprising as well that Eir have not announced this FTTH live in their weekly tech bytes updates.

The exchange is further down the road in a different village and there is no FTTC rollout in the area, it's a straight to FTTH exchange.

Did you check back through them all? I have a suspicion that in one of Marno21's posts there was some FTTH announced at least once a few months back.

Gonzo

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Did you check back through them all? I have a suspicion that in one of Marno21's posts there was some FTTH announced at least once a few months back.

I checked back as far as the end of June and no sign of that exchange listed. There were FTTH announcements a few months ago but they were for large towns. Perhaps this exchange in wexford was only activated over past day or so and may appear in next week's news. Also only a tiny portion of it is active for FTTH, still thinking it could be a test especially as it's an area with no FTTC.

tsue921i8wljb3

Map updated. More slippage in deadlines. Tara in Meath is now Spring 2017 only, Robinstown is H2 2017. I haven't checked other areas but I assume it is the same nationwide. Good news for Gonzo though, Dunshaughlin is now Winter 2016 only. I think it had been Winter/Spring.

Edit: Sorry Gonzo! It apparently was Autumn/Winter.

tsue921i8wljb3

jd wrote: »

Seems to be available now in Parts of the Killinick Exchange area (Wexford, near Johnstown Castle).

The map is now saying "Estimated date for live 1000Mb/s fibre is 28 Sep" for Killinick. It probably is the first area to launch. Congratulations!

jd

Had a look around the map, also

BALLYFARNAN

Estimated date for first live FTTH with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is 28 Sep

Athboy (Meath)

1070 premises in this exchange can now access up to 100Mb/s fibre broadband. Estimated date for live 1000Mb/s fibre is 28 Sep

Only so many you can check! My eyes need a rest..

ACLFC7

My exchange (Brittas) says "Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is H2'2017".
What does H2 mean? Does it mean 2nd half of 2017?

long_b

ACLFC7 wrote: »

My exchange (Brittas) says "Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is H2'2017".
What does H2 mean? Does it mean 2nd half of 2017?

Yup, H2= second half of year.

Curragh Camp unchanged at Winter 2016/Spring 2017

tsue921i8wljb3

ACLFC7 wrote: »

My exchange (Brittas) says "Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services with speeds up to 1000Mb/s is H2'2017".
What does H2 mean? Does it mean 2nd half of 2017?

July - December 2017. The doubters were right. The rollout will not be finished on the originally announced timeframe. We are most likely now going to see a crossover with the NBP.

marno21

If it's been put back to H2 2017 there's obviously a local issue.

If some houses are being turned on this month then progress is right in front of your eyes.

In other news, Caheragh in Cork is a non first 100k area that has gone Fibre Build Commenced. Slight deviations from the 100k plan?

marno21

Also, eir need to rethink the map. It's very easy to see where build has commenced with regards to exchanges that never got VDSL, however exchanges that have got VDSL are just marked as Live.