Eir rural FTTH thread

The Cush

enfant terrible wrote: »

Will these fibre lines be leased out to other providers like the copper lines?

Or will these be exclusive to Eir?

Wholesale lines, open to all retailers.

Wholesale pricing - http://www.openeir.ie/news/FTTH_Pricing/

KOR101

The Cush wrote: »

Wholesale lines, open to all retailers.

Wholesale pricing - http://www.openeir.ie/news/FTTH_Pricing/

And, if we follow the UK, the infrastructure itself (poles and ducts) may soon be open to all.

BT has been told to help rivals use its infrastructure to lay fibre cables that are faster than its own copper network, as part of a review of Britain’s broadband needs by the regulator Ofcom.

It should also build a database of its telegraph poles and ducts, to allow rivals to plan where they might want to lay ultrafast fibre to compete with BT’s copper network. Rivals already have access to BT’s infrastructure but the regulator plans to make it less expensive for them to use.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/25/bt-should-let-rivals-use-infrastructure-to-lay-faster-broadband-cables-ofcom-says

enfant terrible

The Cush wrote: »

Wholesale lines, open to all retailers.

Wholesale pricing - http://www.openeir.ie/news/FTTH_Pricing/

Thanks,

Anyone know why Dooradoyle is listed in paper article as in plan for 1000Mb but not on the wholesale map?

All the other towns in Limerick are listed on the map for upgrade Clarina, Kildimo etc.

finbaromahony

Im the only person in my estate, probabaly the village who cant get efiber, and now the blue line goes right past my estate yet goes into smaller estates 2 minutes walk up the road from me...
ever get the feeling that Openeir is trying to upset you?

rob808

KOR101 wrote: »

And, if we follow the UK, the infrastructure itself (poles and ducts) may soon be open to all.

BT has been told to help rivals use its infrastructure to lay fibre cables that are faster than its own copper network, as part of a review of Britain’s broadband needs by the regulator Ofcom.

It should also build a database of its telegraph poles and ducts, to allow rivals to plan where they might want to lay ultrafast fibre to compete with BT’s copper network. Rivals already have access to BT’s infrastructure but the regulator plans to make it less expensive for them to use.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/25/bt-should-let-rivals-use-infrastructure-to-lay-faster-broadband-cables-ofcom-says

This is Ireland the backward country which can't do anything right.

The Cush

KOR101 wrote: »

And, if we follow the UK, the infrastructure itself (poles and ducts) may soon be open to all.

You can see open eir's proposed duct and pole access reference offer documents here - http://www.openeir.ie/Reference_Offers/

Pious14

My house is not quiet on the blue line, will I still achieve better speeds than my current 2mb feeding from this improved line which will be about 200 meters from my house

The Cush

enfant terrible wrote: »

Anyone know why Dooradoyle is listed in paper article as in plan for 1000Mb but not on the wholesale map?

All the other towns in Limerick are listed on the map for upgrade Clarina, Kildimo etc.

Not all, Dooradoyle, Castleconnell, Croom have no FTTH rollout information, 2017 most likely.

Clarina, Patrickswell, Kildimo, Inch St Lawrence and Pallasgreen in Co Limerick also Crossagalla in Limerick city have a 2016 rollout date according to the map.

Interestingly Pallasgreen is going straight to FTTH in Winter 2016, no FTTC services planned from that exchange.

ED E

Pious14 wrote: »

My house is not quiet on the blue line, will I still achieve better speeds than my current 2mb feeding from this improved line which will be about 200 meters from my house

All or nothing. Your existing line runs parallel to the blue, doesn't connect. You either get [150/300/1000Mb] or are left with the existing service.

Pious14

ED E wrote: »

All or nothing. Your existing line runs parallel to the blue, doesn't connect. You either get [150/300/1000Mb] or are left with the existing service.

Eircom would hardly bring a line down to my house on request!

enfant terrible

The Cush wrote: »

Not all, Dooradoyle, Castleconnell, Croom have no FTTH rollout information, 2017 most likely.

Clarina, Patrickswell, Kildimo, Inch St Lawrence and Pallasgreen in Co Limerick also Crossagalla in Limerick city have a 2016 rollout date according to the map.

Interestingly Pallasgreen is going straight to FTTH in Winter 2016, no FTTC services planned from that exchange.

Yes but Dooradoyle is on the press release.

The Cush

enfant terrible wrote: »

Yes but Dooradoyle is on the press release.

So are Castleconnell and Croom and they also have no rollout info, the press release says the next 12 months. I assume only those rolling out this year, 2016, have that info with the other 3 rolling out early next year if the 12 month rollout schedule is to be believed.

http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

Pique

ED E wrote: »

All or nothing. Your existing line runs parallel to the blue, doesn't connect. You either get [150/300/1000Mb] or are left with the existing service.

Is this fact? Are there not going to be spurs off to the side roads with improved (but still not insane) speeds? Why would there not be?I know plenty of people would pay a few hundred extra for installation of such a connection, and hell, even pay for the fibre to their house from the blue line if a few houses were in one of those side roads and split the cost between them.

KOR101

Pious14 wrote: »

Eircom would hardly bring a line down to my house on request!

They might if the request came from your local TD.

enfant terrible

The Cush wrote: »

So are Castleconnell and Croom and they also have no rollout info, the press release says the next 12 months. I assume only those rolling out this year, 2016, have that info with the other 3 rolling out early next year if the 12 month rollout schedule is to be believed.

http://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/

Cheers Cush,

I live in an estate in Dooradoyle where the blue line does not pass right by.

Do you think they will ever run fibre to these estates?

The Cush

enfant terrible wrote: »

I live in an estate in Dooradoyle where the blue line does not pass right by.

Do you think they will ever run fibre to these estates?

In the short to medium term it doesn't seem likely, but who knows with open-eir. They appear to be concentrating on FTTH into the rural areas with existing FTTC in urban areas.

JohnC.

My exchange is in the list! Just checked the fibre rollout map, which had changed since I last looked maybe 2 weeks ago. Now says "Fibre Build commenced - completion work is in progress"

ItHurtsWhenIP

finbaromahony wrote: »

Im the only person in my estate, probabaly the village who cant get efiber, and now the blue line goes right past my estate yet goes into smaller estates 2 minutes walk up the road from me...
ever get the feeling that Openeir is trying to upset you?

Did you give the installer Lyons or Barrys tay when they were putting the line in? Whichever it was, it was the wrong choice!!! :p:p:p:p:D

yabadabado

My exchange is on the list and my house is 760m from the planned fibre cabinet and there is a blue line passing my house.
Am I correct in saying I am looking good for the FTTH or anything else I need to check?
Are the time frames anyways realistic ,mine says Winter 2016?

Mr Velo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Just checked my phone number and although I am not amongst the 100,000 listed today, I am told I should have FTTH in 1 year ......... IF only I could believe it!

Where do you actually check the phone number?

Mr Velo

Great piece of information i'm getting :rolleyes:

pegasus1

Pique wrote: »

Is this fact?

Fact!

Mod's, should there be an FAQ standalone thread...

Dr. Nick

yabadabado wrote: »

My exchange is on the list and my house is 760m from the planned fibre cabinet and there is a blue line passing my house.
Am I correct in saying I am looking good for the FTTH or anything else I need to check?
Are the time frames anyways realistic ,mine says Winter 2016?

Blue line going past our house as well (Tara exch. which has 1190 houses against it).
Should I be hopeful?

Gonzo

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Blue line going past our house as well (Tara exch. which has 1190 houses against it).
Should I be hopeful?

you should be, I was amazed when reading the press release that there were even 1190 houses in the area but had a look at the map and the blue lines cover alot of distance as there are so many of them but I would imagine all homes are being included along the blue lines from Tara.

plodder

It's saying Winter 2016 for my place now, which is great. One thing I wonder about if anyone else is affected. My TV service is MMDS, which is being switched off next month. Virgin are just recommending switching to Sky, but I wonder if it's worth waiting for an IP system over FTTH. I don't really want to sign a 12 month contract with Sky if a decent bundle including TV is available over broadband...?

bk

rob808 wrote: »

This is Ireland the backward country which can't do anything right.

Ironic you should say that, given that Eir are actually ahead of BT in the UK on this, with Eir having already put forward proposals on how they will open up their duct and pole network to other operators, while in the UK BT are being forced to do it by the regulator.

In fairness to Eir their rollout of VDSL/FTTC has also been much more impressive then BT. Eirs rollout has been much faster then BT and they also were one of the first companies in the world to rollout vectoring offering speeds of up to 100Mb/s while BT are still stuck at 70Mb/s.

And now Eir are seriously rolling out FTTH in rural Ireland, while BT have no such plans, despite receiving massive subsidies from the UK government for rural broadband.

We have seriously surpassed the UK now. It is the more advanced Scandinavian countries that we are looking to catch up with now.

damienirel

bk wrote: »

Ironic you should say that, given that Eir are actually ahead of BT in the UK on this, with Eir having already put forward proposals on how they will open up their duct and pole network to other operators, while in the UK BT are being forced to do it by the regulator.

In fairness to Eir their rollout of VDSL/FTTC has also been much more impressive then BT. Eirs rollout has been much faster then BT and they also were one of the first companies in the world to rollout vectoring offering speeds of up to 100Mb/s while BT are still stuck at 70Mb/s.

And now Eir are seriously rolling out FTTH in rural Ireland, while BT have no such plans, despite receiving massive subsidies from the UK government for rural broadband.

We have seriously surpassed the UK now. It is the more advanced Scandinavian countries that we are looking to catch up with now.

:rolleyes:

When I can get faster broadband than 2.5mbs living within a 2 mile radius of Limerick City - I'll agree with you - but at the moment all we are hearing is plans - enough with announcing plans - do something.

bk

damienirel wrote: »

:rolleyes:

When I can get faster broadband than 2.5mbs living within a 2 mile radius of Limerick City - I'll agree with you - but at the moment all we are hearing is plans - enough with announcing plans - do something.

Three years ago Eir announced they were going to connect 1.6 million homes to FTTC/VDASL by 2016 and they have achieved exactly that. It was one of the fastest rollouts of FTTC anywhere in the world.

The fact that you personally haven't been sorted yet is irrelevant in the bigger picture. I know that sucks for you, but such is life.

Gonzo

If they manage to get the first 100,000 rural homes up and running with FTTH by the completion date of March 2017 for this first phase I will be extremely impressed. Seems they are going ahead with rural fibre almost a year before we thought they would with many homes due to be connected in time for Christmas.

KOR101

Gonzo wrote: »

If they manage to get the first 100,000 rural homes up and running with FTTH by the completion date of March 2017 for this first phase I will be extremely impressed. Seems they are going ahead with rural fibre almost a year before we thought they would with many homes due to be connected in time for Christmas.

Say Eir win one region, lose another.

In the winning region, Eir will scrap any earlier date than the NBP schedule (starts 2017) for those houses. Why? Because all spare resources will be piled into connections in the losing region.

Don't get me wrong. I think it's great that Eir have been forced to do something real about their earlier announcement (probably to support any needed legal claim). And, they really do have a recent track record of delivering.