Dublin is an unadulterated kip

Simon2015

Billy86 wrote: »

Uhm, sex in public parks is legal in Amsterdam (and Copenhagen) - they just ask that you don't do it before 4pm, and clean up your condoms and semen off the benches afterwards. The Dutch are very, very open (pardon the pun!) when it comes to sex, and their tourism numbers don't exactly suffer because of it.

Are you saying we should allow people in Dublin to have sex in public ?

Billy86

Simon2015 wrote: »

You wouldn't even see this sort of carry on in Amsterdam.

Billy86 wrote: »

Uhm, sex in public parks is legal in Amsterdam (and Copenhagen) - they just ask that you don't do it before 4pm, and clean up your condoms and semen off the benches afterwards. The Dutch are very, very open (pardon the pun!) when it comes to sex, and their tourism numbers don't exactly suffer because of it.

Simon2015 wrote: »

Are you saying we should allow people in Dublin to have sex in public ?

Simon, I think it is pretty clear what I was saying - simply that you were completely wrong on the point you were trying to make, as not only do people have sex in public parks in Amsterdam, but it is actually legal to do so. So long as you clean your Johnnys and spunk off of the benches afterwards.

Simon2015

Billy86 wrote: »

Simon, I think it is pretty clear what I was saying - simply that you were completely wrong on the point you were trying to make, as not only do people have sex in public parks in Amsterdam, but it is actually legal to do so. So long as you clean your Johnnys and spunk off of the benches afterwards.

Are they normal parks or parks in the red light district ?

There is noway I'd want to sit on a bench that was used for people to have sex on.

RedemptionZ

Simon2015 wrote: »

Are you saying we should allow people in Dublin to have sex in public ?

I think he's saying that in actual fact you would get it Amsterdam. So yeah, those Dutch tourists probably weren't too traumatised to see what in their country would be a legal act.

Dublin is a great city. Actually is on par with most western European cities with regard to homelessness, wealthy population, decent (not perfect) transport and lots of attractions for tourists. From a tourist perspective I think O Connell St. should be cleaned up, but the junkies have to go somewhere, just because you mightn't see them on your weekend trip to Belgium doesn't mean they're not there.

Billy86

Simon2015 wrote: »

Are they normal parks or parks in the red light district ?

There is noway I'd want to sit on a bench that was used for people to have sex on.

Vondelpark is one of them, lovely place and not near the RLD - I had a friend who did an Erasmus year in Amsterdam then stayed on for his masters and later with his girlfriend he met there, so have been to it a few times visiting him. I actually watched the 2010 WC Final there. Here are some pictures of the place: https://www.google.ca/search?q=vondelpark&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIksLQmu_oyAIVQns-Ch0OTA3C

As best I am aware, there are not parks in the red light district. Never been to Copenhagen, but it would strike me as being a considerably more reserved place than Amsterdam, so doubt their parks are in a RLD area, either.

I do agree I wouldn't be mad about using those benches either, but the fact is it very much does happen in other places, to the extent that they just allow it in certain areas now.

FalconGirl

Maybe its for another thread but why are Dublin Fire Brigade attacked by the very people they protect? Is this a Dublin phenomenon? I'm from Dublin and this really gets under my skin. People who attack emergency services should be looking at serious time.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-fire-brigade-bonfire-dublin-luas-2416408-Oct2015/

http://utv.ie/News/2015/09/09/Bottles-and-stones-thrown-at-Dublin-Fire-Brigade-44682

RedemptionZ

FalconGirl wrote: »

Maybe its for another thread but why are Dublin Fire Brigade attacked by the very people they protect? Is this a Dublin phenomenon? I'm from Dublin and this really gets under my skin. People who attack emergency services should be looking at serious time.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-fire-brigade-bonfire-dublin-luas-2416408-Oct2015/

http://utv.ie/News/2015/09/09/Bottles-and-stones-thrown-at-Dublin-Fire-Brigade-44682

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/7238127.stm
From 2008 but still. Happens everywhere, scum aren't unique to Dublin I'm afraid. Don't understand why someone would attack a fire fighter or paramedic.

Billy86

FalconGirl wrote: »

Maybe its for another thread but why are Dublin Fire Brigade attacked by the very people they protect? Is this a Dublin phenomenon? I'm from Dublin and this really gets under my skin. People who attack emergency services should be looking at serious time.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-fire-brigade-bonfire-dublin-luas-2416408-Oct2015/

http://utv.ie/News/2015/09/09/Bottles-and-stones-thrown-at-Dublin-Fire-Brigade-44682

I definitely agree that it is the kind of thing that needs to be hammered down on (attacking fire brigades and ambulances even more so than attacking police), but sadly it does happen in a lot of cities if you pop it into Google. Probably makes them less likely to get out there in a hurry next time, leading to the families of the same scrotes turning around and screaming blue murder over the lack of effort put in by security services without ever thinking why.

dubscottie

I wonder why so many boards members have not gone to Amsterdam..

Cyclists can do what they want and all the roads are set up for them, Folks can shag in parks, You can take drugs.. :cool:

Go.. And stop posting "we should do what they do'' posts..

Dublin might be a kip but its our unique kip.

Spanish Eyes

I wonder what an "adulterated kip" might be? (as opposed to unadulterated) lol

Dublin is great. That's all for now.

Simon2015

I don't think there are many other cities in the world where you would see Scumbags taking out their lad and having a piss on the bus.

Yet we have people trying to say that Dublin is not a kip:rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/adriankandjeremyd/photos/a.454795927967637.1073741828.454739867973243/836440909803135/?type=3

Valetta

Simon2015 wrote: »

I don't think there are many other cities in the world where you would see Scumbags taking out their lad and having a piss on the bus.

Yet we have people trying to say that Dublin is not a kip:rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/adriankandjeremyd/photos/a.454795927967637.1073741828.454739867973243/836440909803135/?type=3

What do you base that assumption on ?

I would say similar goes on in most major cities.

Methinks you have an unjustified anti-dublin bias .

Roll eyes .

Yamanoto

Simon2015 wrote: »

You wouldn't even see this sort of carry on in Amsterdam.

Amsterdam's the only city in the world where I've ever seen it Simon - a tramp being fellated just off warmoestraat in the early afternoon.

Delightful.

Simon2015 wrote: »

I don't think there are many other cities in the world where you would see Scumbags taking out their lad and having a piss on the bus.

Saw two low-lifes take a piss inside the door of a red line train in LA a couple of years back, was genuinely shocked by how nonchalantly they went about it too.

I'd imagine bus drivers the world over will probably tell you it's far from an uncommon occurrence.

wow sierra

Simon2015 wrote: »

I don't think there are many other cities in the world where you would see Scumbags taking out their lad and having a piss on the bus.

Yet we have people trying to say that Dublin is not a kip:rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/adriankandjeremyd/photos/a.454795927967637.1073741828.454739867973243/836440909803135/?type=3[/QUOTE


I love how some people think no other country/city has homeless, drunken behavior, junkies, litter or any other random list of things we complain about in Dublin. I kind of like that we don't segregate as much here as other cities - places where they have a tiny city centre tourist region and if you go a little bit away it's like another world.
Yes peeing on a bus is Scumbag behavior - no it sure ain't peculiar to Dublin (or likely to happen on a random day ).

Dublin is great mostly - and sometimes crap. Joe Duffy and Adrian Kennedy are always crap.

Simon2015

Valetta wrote: »

Methinks you have an unjustified anti-dublin bias .

I've no anti-dublin bias I have lived in Dublin all my life.

I see with my own eyes what goes on. Its not a city I would be proud of.

FalconGirl

FalconGirl wrote: »

Maybe its for another thread but why are Dublin Fire Brigade attacked by the very people they protect? Is this a Dublin phenomenon? I'm from Dublin and this really gets under my skin. People who attack emergency services should be looking at serious time.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-fire-brigade-bonfire-dublin-luas-2416408-Oct2015/

http://utv.ie/News/2015/09/09/Bottles-and-stones-thrown-at-Dublin-Fire-Brigade-44682

I posted this 2 days ago. Last night was anarchic.:mad:

keithclancy

FalconGirl wrote: »

I posted this 2 days ago. Last night was anarchic.:mad:

People that try to assault the Emergency services should be shot on sight.

Valetta

Simon2015 wrote: »

I've no anti-dublin bias I have lived in Dublin all my life.

I see with my own eyes what goes on. Its not a city I would be proud of.

Would you be proud of London, Paris, Lisbon, Cork?

Is one utube video the extent of you critical analysis?

Pretty shallow view, in my opinion.

Simon2015

Valetta wrote: »

Would you be proud of London, Paris, Lisbon, Cork?

Is one utube video the extent of you critical analysis?

Pretty shallow view, in my opinion.

I never seen as many Junkies in Dublin than I have in other European city.

Its almost impossible to walk though Dublin without been harassed by Junkies or beggars.

bnt

"Unadulterated"? O'Connell Street is pretty much the embodiment of "adulterated". :eek:

DrH Lecter

Dublin isn't that bad.

Most of its crapness come from lack of awesomeness rather than actual threat to the individual.

Its nothing to write home about in both the good sense and the bad sense.

You'll generally go into the city, be annoyed by the congestion and waddling halfwits, maybe buy something nice at a disappointing price, be mildly entertained to the point of almost smiling, observe the place could do with a bit of a tidy and then return home through congestion again safe and sound but with no real desire in mind to go back again soon.

Those who have to go there regularly though have my sympathy, it becomes less and less appealing a place to go quite quickly, loses any novelty real quick.

Tarzana2

wow sierra wrote: »

I kind of like that we don't segregate as much here as other cities - places where they have a tiny city centre tourist region and if you go a little bit away it's like another world.

Me too, I actually find the 'sanitise the city centre' stuff a bit creepy. All cities have a mix of people.

Canadel

Simon2015 wrote: »

Its almost impossible to walk though Dublin without been harassed by Junkies or beggars.

I'm both a beggar and a junkie and I rarely if ever harass citizens in the city. Don't generalise.

Baggy Trousers

Canadel wrote: »

I'm both a beggar and a junkie and I rarely if ever harass citizens in the city. Don't generalise.

Give up your aul sins!

Billy86

Simon2015 wrote: »

I don't think there are many other cities in the world where you would see Scumbags taking out their lad and having a piss on the bus.

Yet we have people trying to say that Dublin is not a kip:rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/adriankandjeremyd/photos/a.454795927967637.1073741828.454739867973243/836440909803135/?type=3

Google 'man pisses on bus/tram/train [insert city here' and you will get results. I did for Toronto, London, New York, Chicago, Berlin, Liverpool, Sydney, and Melbourne which were the only ones I looked up. In most major cities like New York & London, locals joke about people urinating or playing with themselves on public transport because it is such a horrible thing to witness but does happen with some regularity.

Simon, you appear to have an agenda to be honest.

Harry Palmr

That six people were stabbed and one killed over the "Halloween weekend" (as if it were a national holiday!) and almost every fire in the land that needing putting out was in Dublin tells its own story. Even though its not really Dublin, its north and west Dublin (Red Line Horrors) and even then its not all of those sectors.

Simon2015

Billy86 wrote: »

Simon, you appear to have an agenda to be honest.

My only "agenda" is to tell it like it is.

I would be embarrassed to invite friends from outside of Ireland to visit Dublin.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/commuter-witnesses-couple-in-sexual-act-on-luas-in-broad-daylight-30017568.html
Commuter witnesses couple 'in sexual act' on Luas in broad daylight

A commuter has described a shocking incident on the Luas today where a couple engaged in a sexual act in broad daylight, in front of other passengers.


She told how a woman tried to perform a sexual act on her partner on the Red Line this afternoon, between the Four Courts Luas stop and the Connolly Station stop.

The woman, who is a regular commuter on the Luas, said she was shocked at the incident.

“Young woman tries (and fails) to perform a sex act on boyfriend on the Luas in broad daylight,” she wrote online.

The incident follows the theft of TD Olivia Mitchell’s purse, containing €250 and credit cards, over a week ago on the green line.


And in December, Luas operators Transdev urged passengers to contact them when seeing evidence of drug-taking on the tram – after a passenger saw a drug addict inject himself in the groin.

Billy86

Simon2015 wrote: »

My only "agenda" is to tell it like it is.

I would be embarrassed to invite friends from outside of Ireland to visit Dublin.

You're not telling it like it is though, are you? You are claiming that other cities don't have people piss on public transport, just like you were claiming that you would NEVER see people having sex in public, "even in the likes of Amsterdam"... where it is legal to do so in public parks. Then you jumped to 'surely they must be in the red light district only' when in fact there are no parks in the red light district. It's a constant eagerness to clutch at straws that simply are not there that makes it clear you do indeed have an agenda.

That link of yours is over a year and a half old by the way. If you want to play at that game, there are thousands that can be thrown back at you. You don't seem to get this, it's as if you think every other large city in the world is some kind of utopian paradise?

It's... odd. Until it becomes clear you've just got an agenda.

Simon2015

Billy86 wrote: »

You're not telling it like it is though, are you? You are claiming that other cities don't have people piss on public transport, just like you were claiming that you would NEVER see people having sex in public, "even in the likes of Amsterdam"... where it is legal to do so in public parks. Then you jumped to 'surely they must be in the red light district only' when in fact there are no parks in the red light district. It's a constant eagerness to clutch at straws that simply are not there that makes it clear you do indeed have an agenda.

That link of yours is over a year and a half old by the way. If you want to play at that game, there are thousands that can be thrown back at you. You don't seem to get this, it's as if you think every other large city in the world is some kind of utopian paradise?

It's... odd. Until it becomes clear you've just got an agenda.

Other cities in the world don't have half as many Junkies as we have.

Dublin is like the Junkie capital of Europe.

BOHtox

sully2010 wrote: »

Lucky you, heres a few from the last year on Tourists or foreigners living here, absolute disgrace. They seem to target the more vulnerable people. This is not normal, this does not happen in big cities like New York. They know the revolving door system here and lack of visible policing lets them do as they please. Type unprovoked attack Dublin and you will have many more examples of attacks on Irish too.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/it-is-sad-they-want-us-to-die-brazils-media-highlights-violence-against-brazilians-living-in-ireland-31591612.html

http://www.herald.ie/news/after-three-attacks-im-leaving-unsafe-ireland-and-going-back-to-brazil-says-sandra-34-31592194.html

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/brazilian-teen-serious-condition-following-6423991

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/he-hit-me-in-the-face-so-many-times-woman-attacked-on-bus-speaks-out-on-ordeal-30490105.html

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/car-stolen-from-tourists-on-their-first-day-in-dublin-has-been-found-31492969.html

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/us-tourist-attacked-in-dublin-park-eight-youths-punched-and-kicked-me-and-my-girlfriend-31211989.html

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/tourist-attacked-with-bottle-just-after-arriving-in-country-31391460.html

I've had a friend glassed in Greece, another assaulted in San Diego, another pick-pocketed in Barcelona. Just this week a teacher in my old school was attacked in London. Dublin is not unique to these attacks. The perpetrators are absolute scumbags, no doubt. And this city may have its fair share of them. But it does not take away from the culture, scenery and atmosphere of this fair city!