Pokémon Sun & Moon rumours and discussion

Mr.Nice Guy

I'll have to research the differences between the two games before I decide which one to go for (I never buy both versions) but I really like the running around parts that were shown which look gorgeous.

Angron

I'm pretty pissed that we are getting it later than the rest of the world for no reason again.

JustShon

I like the grass and fire starters, like most of the internet I'm not a fan of the water type.

Leaning towards grass but still strongly considering fire.

ERG89

JustShon wrote: »

I like the grass and fire starters, like most of the internet I'm not a fan of the water type.

Leaning towards grass but still strongly considering fire.

The red nose just makes it look dumb & childish.
The owl is fine but why does it wear a grass bra?

JustShon

ERG89 wrote: »

The red nose just makes it look dumb & childish.
The owl is fine but why does it wear a grass bra?

I think it's meant to simulate seals balancing a ball on their nose like trained show seals do / used to do so I see what they're aiming for but I still don't like it very much.

I saw the leaves as like a little bow-tie. I think Rowlet's a total cutie but I've always been a sucker for fire types and the black and red design of Litten is really cool.

MilesMorales1

It won't even be the 23rd, thats a Wednesday, it'll be goddamn Friday, the 25th. Very cross it makes me, there's no reason for a weeks delay.

gnfnrhead

I can only assume server load? If that's the case why not alternate it between Europe and the US for the later release? No need for Europe to always get the later release. Even only being available on the 3DS store would be a fair compromise.

I've actually warmed to Popplio now but really wish they didn't give him that nose. Everything else is actually pretty good.

beaner09

I think some people speculated that OR/AS were late as punishment for shops in Europe selling X/Y before the release date, dunno if that was just people putting 2 and 2 together though

beaner09

New Pokémon teased in CoroCoro trailer

beaner09

New Pokémon teased in CoroCoro trailer

Angron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg

Digital Solitude

Legendary typing spoiler

Solgaleo is Steel/Psychic, Lunala is Ghost/Psychic. Very defensive pairing with not many weaknesses on either.

Strange how a Sun pokemon is weak to fire though

Atavan-Halen

Some new footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc6Bd4WTvL4

Angron

That's a really frigging cool looking attack.

Edit: Official video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDTKAX-UcQs

Atavan-Halen

More new info:

http://trib.al/akGZiyZ

Quite like pikapek (the obligatory new pidgey)

Mr.Nice Guy

The new battle royale mode looks interesting. I like the traditional one-on-one format but it might be fun to try out.

Any word yet on wifi battle features? I really want a 'no legends' option for the battles.

Angron

I'm really glad battle royale is a proper game mode now. Free-For-Alls were fun to do in multi-battles, but they were limited in that you had to target your team mate if there was only one person left on the other side, giving the person on their own an advantage of being able to attack without potentially getting hit back.

Atavan-Halen

New trailer and more Pokemon revealed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTt65qAkR84

Angron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X68Aae5OR4

A new Pokémon, Salandit revealed. I'm super excited about this one for two reasons:

1) Poison/Fire type, a combo I've wanted for a while now.
2) It can poison Steel and Poison types!

Mr.Nice Guy

It looks fun but I fear this will lead to everyone having a Gliscor with them in battles to counter it, especially if this thing is vulnerable to Earthquake.

Angron

I suppose it depends on how strong it is, or any potential evolution would be.

pickarooney

I like Litten, the fire starter. The twisted fire starter.

D.Q

Are the original 150 still in this game or is it totally different

Angron

D.Q wrote: »

Are the original 150 still in this game or is it totally different

Generally speaking you can catch at least some of the original 150, or you can trade them from other games, but much of the focus tends to be on newer pokémon for these games.

Angron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKosBJ1Uko0

A Neurotic

...Christ.

mcgovern

So far, almost all of the new pokemon look horrible. Does anyone know how many new pokemon they plan to have, about 100?

Angron

No idea, I don't think they've said how many they'll introduce.

I don't mind some of the new ones. I like the ground horse, the elderly looking dragon (reminds me of Falkor), Salandit, Rockruff, the starters, Vikavolt, or the boxart legends.

joe123

Are the proper Pokemon going to be in this? The likes of Charmander and Geodude and the likes? Those new ones look daft.

Last Pokemon game I played of the main ones was Pokemon blue so maybe time hasn't been kind to the game?

Jen Pigs Fly

Omg I cannot wait to gets my hands on mudsdale! Soon my horse Pokemon team will be complete he'll join rapidash, zebstrika, giraffarig (I'm counting him as "horse like" ) Stantler (ditto as with giraffarig) and swasbuck!

Jen Pigs Fly

joe123 wrote: »

Are the proper Pokemon going to be in this? The likes of Charmander and Geodude and the likes? Those new ones look daft.

Last Pokemon game I played of the main ones was Pokemon blue so maybe time hasn't been kind to the game?

The game has gotten 1 million times better! With mega evolution, over 800 Pokemon to choose from, larger regions, online battles and wonder trade especially! If you haven't played since blue my god you're in for a bumpy ride! There are different traits, different ways to level up, genders, breeding, IV/EV training, stat breeding!

Maybe play the likes of second gen or even 3rd just to get the hang of it ... Pokemon has been releasing a game every year so remember that - the game you played 17 odd years ago has come on a long way. It is nothing like Pokemon go ....

I hope eevee gets another block of evolutions! 8 are just not enough!

And what do you consider "proper" Pokemon. ..... Gen 4/5 pokemon as just as "proper" as gen 1 .....


As a true fan I consider all Pokemon equals to one another be they gen 1 or gen 6.

Digital Solitude

Some of the Gen 1 pokes are utter crap, same as Gens 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. So far Gen 7 has shown some crap too. All the gens have good and bad pokemon.

But yeah, it's changed a lot since Pokemon Blue.

Generally between the two games it's possible to catch all the pokemon. There are some exceptions but they're rare or legendary

gnfnrhead

Has there been any mention of Mega's yet? I don't want to spoil everything so I'm not paying super close attention but don't recall any mention of them yet. Hopefully they ditch them and go back to the normal Pokémon but I've a bad feeling there will be some sort of fusion going on if not more Mega's.

Angron

No mention of new megas, I doubt they'll drop that though.

joe123

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

The game has gotten 1 million times better! With mega evolution, over 800 Pokemon to choose from, larger regions, online battles and wonder trade especially! If you haven't played since blue my god you're in for a bumpy ride! There are different traits, different ways to level up, genders, breeding, IV/EV training, stat breeding!

Maybe play the likes of second gen or even 3rd just to get the hang of it ... Pokemon has been releasing a game every year so remember that - the game you played 17 odd years ago has come on a long way. It is nothing like Pokemon go ....

I hope eevee gets another block of evolutions! 8 are just not enough!

And what do you consider "proper" Pokemon. ..... Gen 4/5 pokemon as just as "proper" as gen 1 .....


As a true fan I consider all Pokemon equals to one another be they gen 1 or gen 6.

Certainly sounds like a lot has changed. What I mean by "proper" Pokemon was the originals really. Looking at the new ones they have introduced, they look like a 5 year old drew them.

Just seems like they are clutching at straws to come up with a new looking Pokemon.

800 is insane. Is it quantity over quality?

Angron

One thing that irks me with the complaining of how the new pokémon look, is that people acting like the originals all looked amazing. Sure gen 5 had ice-cream cones, but gen 1 had two red and white balls, and two blobs of purple slime.

And is nearly 800 that much (it's currently 721 not including the new ones that are announced), given they've been making the games for 20 years? They can't just run the games with the same 151 for the sake of nostalgia.

ERG89

Angron wrote: »

One thing that irks me with the complaining of how the new pokémon look, is that people acting like the originals all looked amazing. Sure gen 5 had ice-cream cones, but gen 1 had two red and white balls, and two blobs of purple slime.

And is nearly 800 that much (it's currently 721 not including the new ones that are announced), given they've been making the games for 20 years? They can't just run the games with the same 151 for the sake of nostalgia.

Only the pink headed bear (Bewear) and that old dragon (Drampa) annoy me but I often think they add pokémon to please players who aren't in my demographic. Mudsdale, Mimikyu, Salandit & other look pretty cool I think. I like the Legendaries for a change & the starters bar that silly red nose :mad:

Jen Pigs Fly

joe123 wrote: »

Certainly sounds like a lot has changed. What I mean by "proper" Pokemon was the originals really. Looking at the new ones they have introduced, they look like a 5 year old drew them.

Just seems like they are clutching at straws to come up with a new looking Pokemon.

800 is insane. Is it quantity over quality?

Loads of amazing Pokemon! My personal favourites are tyranitar, hydregion, salamence and milotic! Sure think about the original 151 - there is a magnet (magnamite) a pile of goo (grimer) and a plant (oddish and bellsprout)

With the new Pokemon came new types, new move sets, new abilities and new evolution lines!

MilesMorales1

They'll probably try and integrate that synchro stuff from the anime.

Jen Pigs Fly

I do hope fusion isn't added thoigh ... Was useless, currently playing white 2 and it's the only part I find meh!

beaner09

Mega Evolution Bracelet/Stones will probably be available in the post game!

I'm guessing the Synchronisation thing will be announced soon, not really looking forward to it. The Pokemon announced so far have been mostly good, liking all the new abilities!

I find it funny how people who haven't played the game in 20 years have such knowledge on how the newer Pokemon suck without playing the game.

And if they didn't have 700 Pokémon another group of people would complain that the game is stale, boring and they have no ideas! Ya can't please everyone so you may aswell please the people who actually buy your game rather than someone who bought it 20 years ago!

Jen Pigs Fly

beaner09 wrote: »

Mega Evolution Bracelet/Stones will probably be available in the post game!

I'm guessing the Synchronisation thing will be announced soon, not really looking forward to it. The Pokemon announced so far have been mostly good, liking all the new abilities!

I find it funny how people who haven't played the game in 20 years have such knowledge on how the newer Pokemon suck without playing the game.

And if they didn't have 700 Pokémon another group of people would complain that the game is stale, boring and they have no ideas! Ya can't please everyone so you may aswell please the people who actually buy your game rather than someone who bought it 20 years ago!

I like mega evolution - I want mega lapras and milotic!
You can't keep everyone happy, this is the unfortunate backlash from people jumping onto the bandwagon, they think they know it all when the real fans who bought a game every year as it came out are left bemused at the noobs :pac:

May as well keep the real fans happy and focus on releasing more gens and more battle options! I want 6v6 battles!

beaner09

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

I like mega evolution - I want mega lapras and milotic!
You can't keep everyone happy, this is the unfortunate backlash from people jumping onto the bandwagon, they think they know it all when the real fans who bought a game every year as it came out are left bemused at the noobs :pac:

May as well keep the real fans happy and focus on releasing more gens and more battle options! I want 6v6 battles!

Yeah I like Megas (some could have been done a bit better but overall they're good), those 2 would be fine, my issue would be when/if they do it when a regular evolution would be better!

6v6 match making is desperately needed alright, can take so long to get a battle with passer bys and 3v3 isnt enough when you have so many Pokes to choose from!

Jen Pigs Fly

beaner09 wrote: »

Yeah I like Megas (some could have been done a bit better but overall they're good), those 2 would be fine, my issue would be when/if they do it when a regular evolution would be better!

6v6 match making is desperately needed alright, can take so long to get a battle with passer bys and 3v3 isnt enough when you have so many Pokes to choose from!

I wish megas were like an "After" evolution evolution if you get me - charizard evolves to mega charizard when holding mega stone at level 65 for example ..

6v6 would be amazing especially against the token 6 magicarp guy

Angron

One of the theories I've seen mentioned was that they'd introduce the Burst mechanic from one of the mangas. Thing is, I have no idea how the heck that would even work in the game, without completely reworking how the games work. I think it'd be a cool idea for a spin off series though.

Angron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZHowhxM0U

Some more new stuff. Really looking forward to flying on a Charizard

gnfnrhead

Bloom Doom might be my new favourite move name.

My biggest issue with the Megas is it has eliminated the possibility of certain Pokémon getting a regular evolution. Pinsir, Sableye etc. People make the arguement that Eviolite Sableye for example would be too overpowered. Simple solution is to leave out the Eviolite. Problem solved. At the end of the day, I'd rather more actual Pokémon over a gimmick evolution.

Really need to get back into playing to get me in the mood for November.

TheChrisD

Angron wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZHowhxM0U

This is the point where I feel like I'm turning into a genwunner - or rather a genfiver? - because everything was great before Gen 6 onwards started to really mess with things.

beaner09

I'm glad what I thought would be a synergy evolution type thing is actually just 1 really strong attack!

I understand the Exeggcutor forme change but curious about the reasoning behind Ninetales/Sandslash.

Seems they might be moving away from traditional gyms, interesting move!

MilesMorales1

This is exactly what I wanted from a new pokemon game. Like, almost to the letter. Serious change up to the structure, cool new pokemon, no more HM's. Happy as larry so far.