Dublin Airport New Routes 2016

Jamie2k9 · 21-10-2015 11:11am

Preset No.3 wrote: »

Terrible times for LAX.

Not for transit passengers.

4 weekly Heartford from 28 Sep also.

goingnowhere · 21-10-2015 11:47am

MoeJay wrote: »

DUB-EWR and vv. showing on aerlingus.com EI 101/100 - no idea of frequency , maybe daily. First available date showing Sep 1 2016.

EI 101 1310-1540
EI 100 1735-0520

DUB-LAX looks like 5 per week from May 4 2016 (?)

EI 145 1500-1800
EI 144 1950-1400

Interesting schedule to LAX ensures the aircraft gets back in less than 24 hours and opens up large connection options through the morning EU arrivals in the 11-14:00 and the evening wave of departures from Dublin on way back

EWR? Why?

L1011 · 21-10-2015 11:55am

I presume that it'll be a different a/c for LAX each time at DUB? 1 hour cannot be enough to empty, service and board a 332. Does still reduce the impact on the fleet to being that of basically one frame though.

goingnowhere · 21-10-2015 12:08pm

L1011 wrote: »

I presume that it'll be a different a/c for LAX each time at DUB? 1 hour cannot be enough to empty, service and board a 332. Does still reduce the impact on the fleet to being that of basically one frame though.

1 330-200 SFO 12:20 out, arrive home 11:35, presumably then goes to LAX
1 330-200 LAX 15:00 out, arrive home 14:00, presumably then goes to ORD/BOS

There are 4 A330-200's and only 2 routes where you must fly -200

Tenger · 21-10-2015 12:09pm

L1011 wrote: »

I presume that it'll be a different a/c for LAX each time at DUB? 1 hour cannot be enough to empty, service and board a 332. Does still reduce the impact on the fleet to being that of basically one frame though.

Remember that T2 is very congested pre-1100. Adding another departure is really pushing the facility.
1500 departure matches up very well with the inbound EI shorthaul routes. Couple this with the 1220 DUB-SFO and EI effectively offer 2 frequencies to US West Coast on some days (assuming SFO cutting back to 4/5 weekly)
1400 arrival into DUB is a little late but does offer connections with EI to AMS,CDG,MAD,BCN,DUS and most UK airports.
With IAD being 4 weekly, 3 aircraft alternating can cover those 3 routes.

highlydebased · 21-10-2015 12:47pm

LAX, EWR and BDL all official.
http://blog.aerlingus.com/blog/2015/10/21/announcing-three-new-ways-to-the-usa-for-2016

Tenger · 21-10-2015 12:56pm

highlydebased wrote: »

LAX, EWR and BDL all official.
http://blog.aerlingus.com/blog/2015/10/21/announcing-three-new-ways-to-the-usa-for-2016

Been refreshing the blog since 10am while pretending to actually work at my desk!!

basill · 21-10-2015 1:12pm

Only the one 330 available for start of summer season hence Newark pushed out till September when the second unit is expected to arrive. BDL would appear to be a case of taking the money on offer and running hence a 757.

Van.Bosch · 21-10-2015 1:21pm

basill wrote: »

Only the one 330 available for start of summer season hence Newark pushed out till September when the second unit is expected to arrive. BDL would appear to be a case of taking the money on offer and running hence a 757.

no mention of orders for new a330?

Tenger · 21-10-2015 1:28pm

Van.Bosch wrote: »

no mention of orders for new a330?

Am sure they will want to save that for next week/month. Got to spin out the positive PR snippets over a couple of news cycles.

Jamie2k9 · 21-10-2015 1:33pm

EI are down for T7 at LAX which is United terminal, interesting so clearly UA code share not going away for now anyway.

ozzy jr · 21-10-2015 1:37pm

The BDL route.

Would this be the first sign of IAG using Dublin to get passengers to Heathrow, due to the lack of slots at LHR? I'd imagine a slot at LHR would be better spent serving one of their bigger markets? Or was this in the pipeline pre IAG?

Jamie2k9 · 21-10-2015 1:38pm

ozzy jr wrote: »

The BDL route.

Would this be the first sign of IAG using Dublin to get passengers to Heathrow, due to the lack of slots at LHR? I'd imagine a slot at LHR would be better spent serving one of their bigger markets? Or was this in the pipeline pre IAG?

There is no lack of slots at LHR, the 5 million money tree is why EI are going there.

ozzy jr · 21-10-2015 1:40pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

There is no lack of slots at LHR, the 5 million money tree is why EI are going there.

I thought Heathrow was running at 99% capacity?

(well that's what they kept saying during that BBC documentary they showed recently)

JCX BXC · 21-10-2015 1:44pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

There is no lack of slots at LHR, the 5 million money tree is why EI are going there.

There's no lack of slots? Explain?

Jamie2k9 · 21-10-2015 1:45pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

There's no lack of slots? Explain?

BA are adding bucket and spade routes like there is no tomorrow out of LHR, if there was lack of slots they wouldn't be adding such routes.

I thought Heathrow was running at 99% capacity?

(well that's what they kept saying during that BBC documentary they showed recently)

It is but currently slots are not be used to full potential, major scope for long haul growth.

JCX BXC · 21-10-2015 1:49pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

BA are adding bucket and spade routes like there is no tomorrow out of LHR, if there was lack of slots they wouldn't be adding such routes.

It is but currently slots are not be used to full potential, major scope for long haul growth.

Notice a few routes are being dropped to make way for these routes. Why do so many BA services operate out of Gatwick as opposed to Heathrow?

L1011 · 21-10-2015 1:54pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Notice a few routes are being dropped to make way for these routes. Why do so many BA services operate out of Gatwick as opposed to Heathrow?

Gatwick targets leisure passengers - lower yield and more price sensitive.

Simon Gruber Says · 21-10-2015 1:57pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

EI are down for T7 at LAX which is United terminal, interesting so clearly UA code share not going away for now anyway.

I wish they did this at O'Hare. If you're connecting with UA, which many do, you have to trek all the way from T5 to T1, and there's usually a huge line for security in both.

IRLConor · 21-10-2015 2:22pm

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

I wish they did this at O'Hare. If you're connecting with UA, which many do, you have to trek all the way from T5 to T1, and there's usually a huge line for security in both.

Whatever about the trek, the lack of food options in T5 is pretty bad. Or at least was the last time I went through there. The lounge isn't great either.

Skuzchad · 21-10-2015 2:51pm

I really thought they would announce somewhere like Miami or somewhere different .

JCX BXC · 21-10-2015 2:52pm

Skuzchad wrote: »

I really thought they would announce somewhere like Miami or somewhere different .

What's Hartford so?

Skuzchad · 21-10-2015 3:25pm

Thats only happening because of so much incentive e.g. money

Balf · 21-10-2015 3:35pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

What's Hartford so?

It does look different. Dublin looks to be the only destination out of Hartford outside of North America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_International_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations

JCX BXC · 21-10-2015 3:41pm

Balf wrote: »

It does look different. Dublin looks to be the only destination out of Hartford outside of North America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_International_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations

I think there was a route to Amsterdam until a few years ago. Will be an interesting one! Large Irish settlement there AFAIK

Thats only happening because of so much incentive e.g. money

If they did the same with Miami would that stop it from being a 'different' route?

Tenger · 21-10-2015 3:47pm

Balf wrote: »

It does look different. Dublin looks to be the only destination out of Hartford outside of North America.

Hartford lost their last international route (AMS) when Delta pulled it about 6 years ago.
However it is a big enough airport and has routes to many parts of the US. It also acts as a "gateway to New England"
There is a large Irish population in that region. Hartford has a large business community. Some people from New England would find it easier to travel to Hartford than to go to the big cities of Boston or NYC.

Skuzchad · 21-10-2015 4:04pm

Was there not rumours a while ago about Dublin airport and Cathay pacific in talks about flying in and out of Dublin ??

JCX BXC · 21-10-2015 4:06pm

Skuzchad wrote: »

Was there not rumours a while ago about Dublin airport and Cathay pacific in talks about flying in and out of Dublin ??

These rumours come and go alot sadly.

Jamie2k9 · 21-10-2015 4:37pm

Aer Lingus says agreement on Ryanair connections possible by next year

Aer Lingus is in talks with Ryanair about providing transfer connections for markets it does not serve, and an agreement could be reached by the middle of next year, chief executive Stephen Kavanagh said today.

"We are looking at the opportunities to extend our network reach. There are markets that Ryanair serves that we don't so we are having those discussions about what is currently happening on an ad hoc basis," Mr Kavanagh said.

"If we get the right price in terms of the capacity from Ryanair, then we would be very interested in doing business. At this point in time we remain in negotiation. If the commercial agreements are reached in time, then summer 2016 is a possibility," the Aer Lingus CEO added.

As I expected some time ago, EI will only sign up to un served points in Europe.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2015/1021/736460-aer-lingus-us-expansion/

Balf · 21-10-2015 4:57pm

Tenger wrote: »

Hartford lost their last international route (AMS) when Delta pulled it about 6 years ago.

Found a few interesting snippets, giving an idea of how important this is on the US side of the equation.

http://articles.courant.com/2009-03-28/news/amsterdam-flight_1_nonstop-flight-northwest-airlines-delta-air-lines

March 28, 2009|By ERIC GERSHON, egershon@courant.com
It was a short-lived "miracle."

Northwest Airlines has indefinitely suspended its nonstop flight between Hartford and Amsterdam, which had been scheduled to resume June 3 and would have been Connecticut's only direct air route to Europe.

http://www.courant.com/business/hc-aer-lingus-bradley-flight-dublin-20151020-story.html

Aer Lingus To Resume Service At Bradley In Sept. 2016

HARTFORD — Gov. Dannel P. Malloy on Wednesday announced that a direct trans-Atlantic flight will again depart from Bradley International Airport after a six-year absence.

Aer Lingus, the national airline of Ireland, will add a route between Bradley and Dublin, state officials said. Flights are expected to commence in late September 2016. The airline was lured by up to $5 million in incentives from the state. It was unclear Tuesday when service would begin or what the fares might be.<>

Restoration of a trans-Atlantic flight has been a priority since the Connecticut Airport Authority was formed three years ago. A trans-Atlantic flight is seen as crucial to economic development efforts in the area, including the "Knowledge Corridor" initiative, stretching between Springfield and New Haven.

Speculation intensified last week on social media and in Irish travel publications that an announcement about a Hartford-to-Dublin flight was imminent.

The effort to attract Aer Lingus surfaced last spring, right before Malloy visited Dublin to meet with airline executives to discuss the possibility of an international flight.

I like the way the Hartford newspaper reports this as Aer Lingus "resuming" the service to that place called Europe.

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