BrewDog Bar Ireland

maximoose

Thanks for that

Doubt I'll be going near the place now, €7 for lost lager! :pac:

Wooderson

Underwhelming suppsies for launch weekend. Eye watering prices. A tourist trap, sadly.

Doubt the likes of Paddy in Underdog feels threatened by this.

nc6000

They have a 15% stout? :eek:

Ballso

maximoose wrote: »

Thanks for that

Doubt I'll be going near the place now, €7 for lost lager! :pac:

What were you expecting exactly?

BeerNut

Effects wrote: »

Full tap list:

LOL at BrewDog's first four "friends" being sock puppets, with a fifth BrewDog-brewed beer further down.

Effects

nc6000 wrote: »

They have a 15% stout? :eek:

Not cheap at €5.85 for a third of a pint.

I'll probably go along to try the two stouts, earlyish on Friday before it gets too busy.

Quackster

chef wrote: »

There's a bridge to Ringsend just 200 feet away, via the canal bridge first that leaves you into the heart of the Village

Little chance the locals will be paying €7 plus per pint in my opinion

That's true, but I wouldn't fancy crossing it while tipsy!

Not that I'd be getting overly tipsy on those prices though... :pac:

In any case, that bridge isn't much good for getting over to the Point.

BaZmO*

Jaysis those prices are nuts. Even with my 10% discount it’s a tough sell. The location is a killer too.

Subcomandante Marcos

Effects wrote: »

Due to open for regulars at midday Friday.
28 beers on tap. €7.25 for a pint of Punk.

Go. And. ****e.

nc6000

Effects wrote: »

Not cheap at €5.85 for a third of a pint.

I'll probably go along to try the two stouts, earlyish on Friday before it gets too busy.

I didn't spot the 1/3 of a pint bit. Very expensive. :rolleyes:

Effects

Yeah, some are half pint and some are a third. Had some imperial stouts in the Big Romance a few weeks back, it can end up expensive.
I'd rather drink stuff like that at home, but will give it a shot to see what the place is like.

simonw

Effects wrote: »

€7.25 for a pint of Punk.

That must be the most you'd pay anywhere in Dublin for a punk ipa? And they are brewing it on-site?

Phat Cat

Effects wrote: »

€7.25 for a pint of Punk.

That's even more expensive then any of the BrewDog bars in London, where it's £6 for a pint of Punk IPA in any of the ones that I've been in.

BeerNut

simonw wrote: »

And they are brewing it on-site?

No: the brewery on-site, when it gets going, will be doing small-batch one-offs. That Punk is exactly the same mass-produced version sold in Wetherspoon and Tesco.

The Nal

If a 3rd of a pint is €5.85, that works out at €17.55 a pint!

They must secretly laughing at anyone stupid enough to pay those prices?

L1011

BeerNut wrote: »

No: the brewery on-site, when it gets going, will be doing small-batch one-offs. That Punk is exactly the same mass-produced version sold in Wetherspoon and Tesco.

Does someone with a better knowledge of the small brewery half excise rules (better than me - e.g. you ) know if the ownership by a larger multinational excludes the Dublin kit from that?

BeerNut

The Nal wrote: »

If a 3rd of a pint is €5.85, that works out at €17.55 a pint!

It's not sold by the pint, it's not meant to be consumed by the pint, so a per-pint calculation is daft. Nobody calculates wine prices like this, so why do it for a wine-strength beer?

It's a shame they're sticking to restrictive UK measures even though they don't have to in Ireland. Third-pints aren't fun. Even 250ml would be an improvement.

L1011 wrote: »

if the ownership by a larger multinational excludes the Dublin kit from that?

I think so. Under the 2005 Finance Act the applying brewery must be "legally and economically independent of any other brewery".

Cazale

The Nal wrote:

They must secretly laughing at anyone stupid enough to pay those prices?

It's a 15% stout though. I've paid €15 for a 330ml bottle of a similar abv. It's not something you'll go on a session with.

Ballso

The Nal wrote: »

If a 3rd of a pint is €5.85, that works out at €17.55 a pint!

They must secretly laughing at anyone stupid enough to pay those prices?

If you think 6 euro is a lot of money I don't think the craft beer bars in northern or western Europe are for you. There are plenty of options in Dublin for cheap alcohol already.

Underdog have a 5.6% pale ale on at the moment at €9 for 330ml.

Subcomandante Marcos

Ballso wrote: »

If you think 6 euro is a lot of money I don't think the craft beer bars in northern or western Europe are for you. There are plenty of options in Dublin for cheap alcohol already.

Underdog have a 5.6% pale ale on at the moment at €9 for 330ml.

The underdog tax is ridiculous though.

Ballso

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The underdog tax is ridiculous though.

What's ridiculous about it? I visit regularly, stay an hour or two, sip some interesting beers and have the chats, my bill usually comes to about 20 quid. If that model doesn't suit you go somewhere else.

The business model for these bars isn't lads sitting there drinking six or seven pints at a time. Things have moved on.

Passenger

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The underdog tax is ridiculous though.

Underdog have the same profit margin for every beer they tap. The cost of the keg is what dictates the price of the beer not the management, as some people might believe.

CramCycle

Some of the prices are crazy, others seem fine. Alot of their "headiners" are overpriced IMO, but then maybe it shouldn't matter to me as very few of their headliners I would ever buy. There are a few on the other side I wouldn't mind giving a try, so I may call in if ever in the area but that is unlikely enough.

Effects

So it's just a case of adding on a percentage to the cost of the keg?

L1011

Effects wrote: »

So it's just a case of adding on a percentage to the cost of the keg?

The two basic methods of pricing products are either a % or fixed margin per sale; and the latter would not be common in pubs.

Promotional pricing etc makes this muddier than it just being "put XX% on a keg and divide by volume" a lot of the time; but its an underlying basic.

Ciaranis

L1011 wrote:

Its 4.45 in JDW on Abbey Street. 63% increase!

Yes. And in Wetherspoon it comes with free nibbles of middle-aged sadness and anti-EU sentiment.

BeerNut

Ciaranis wrote: »

Yes. And in Wetherspoon it comes with free nibbles of middle-aged sadness and anti-EU sentiment.

There's no anti-EU sentiment visible in Irish Wetherspoons.

I don't get the hate for JDW. Yes, some of their establishments across the water are very rough around the edges, but any of their places over here are grand. The gripes people have against them are pretty petty and seem to be niggly just for the sake of being niggly.

"There's no craic / it's too sterile" - I don't know about you, but I go to the boozer with my mates and generate our own craic and atmosphere. Even if you were drinking in, say, The Long Hall on your own, it wouldn't exactly be a great buzz.

"middle-aged sadness and anti-EU sentiment" is a new one, though, I must admit.........Kudos.

Subcomandante Marcos

Underdog and GBB bars take the absolute piss with pricing because they know they can and their fanboi regulars will still defend them.

GBB bars and Underdog were charging €11+ from 330ml of Wicklow Wolf Pointy Shoes.

Half pint in Dead Centre in Athlone is €5.

Ballso

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Underdog and GBB bars take the absolute piss with pricing because they know they can and their fanboi regulars will still defend them.

GBB bars and Underdog were charging €11+ from 330ml of Wicklow Wolf Pointy Shoes.

Half pint in Dead Centre in Athlone is €5.

Well drink in dead centre in Athlone then and spare the rest of us your bitter whinging.

Christ, between the moaning about JDWs cheapness attracting the wrong crowd and other bars being too expensive you'd think these were the only options.