Changing terminology in Ireland

Banjoxed

selous wrote: »

Wow...so amn't is good and ain't isn't!

Amn't is perfectly good Hiberno-English. Nothing wrong with that..

moc moc a moc

Thespoofer wrote: »

Their not solicitors anymore, their lawyers... OMG, this one gets me.

Grammar a five-year-old would be ashamed of gets you?

Thespoofer

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Grammar a five-year-old would be ashamed of gets you?

Meh ..

selous

Totes devo, eh lol.

agent graves

People calling their other half "bae" instead of babe... lazy b*stards

endacl

Buns. OK? They're buns. Not cup cakes.

Just. Fancy. Feckin'. Buns.

:mad:

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I am sure there are loads more examples of new terminology that replace older words, that were doing a fine job in the first place!

I am sure you are right

* if anyone has a video of "Oleary and the Bards" singing this song - I would very much appreciate the link.

OldMrBrennan83

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Je suis tres mal

Banjoxed wrote: »

Amn't is perfectly good Hiberno-English. Nothing wrong with that..

Hiberno-English is nothing but a bastardization of an actual language commonly referred to as "English".

Eugene Norman

Je suis tres mal wrote: »

Hiberno-English is nothing but a bastardization of an actual language commonly referred to as "English".

Which has no real standard. France has a body to enforce these things. English hasn't.

Eugene Norman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Eason = ✓
Easons = ✘
Eason's books/restaurant/deals, etc (i.e. the books etc belonging to Eason & Co) = ✓

Tesco= ✓
Tescos = ✘
Tesco's books/café/deals, etc = ✓

Aldi = ✓
Aldis = ✘
Aldi's books/café/deals, etc = ✓

And so on. Not knowing how to use an apostrophe correctly is the sort of basic mistake which will get a job application thrown in the bin. Seriously.

I bet there are people employed in Tesco who call it Tescos, even in their CV.

Eugene Norman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's always been a mystery to me why "amn't" is non-standard but "aren't" is standard. I am not, but you aren't. There doesn't appear to be much consistency. Nevertheless, "amn't" is recorded in English since at least 1618, and is recognised as a common contraction in Ireland and Scotland by most if not all English dictionaries, including the OED: "Definition of amn't in English: contraction Am not. (chiefly Scottish & Irish)"

"I'm right, aren't I?" sounds very, very wrong to my ear, even though it is standard English. Then again, it will be a cold day in Hell before most Irish people would say formal things like "I should like to thank", as opposed to "I would like to thank" (In British English: I should, but you/he/she/they would; I shall, but you/he/she/they will)

Standard English ≠ good English.

I don't think that's the distinction. Or the only distinction. Shall is a hope to do something, will is a certainty of something. In British English. Shall is applied to humans or persons. Will to animate objects. The sun will rise and I shall depart.

American English is like here, shall is rare.

RandomName2

selous wrote: »

Gardaí or Garda is Irish language its been English-ified now to Guards or Gards, :mad:

FFS they have the same etymology. Do you think it's just coincidental that garda and guard sound almost exactly the same and have roughly the same meaning?

Mind you, that goes for a lotttt of Irish vocab.

While on the subject I find "Eason's" grand, but "Tesco's" terrible (maybe that's totally peculiar to me)

El_Duderino 09

endacl wrote:

Buns. OK? They're buns. Not cup cakes.

Just. Fancy. Feckin'. Buns.

I don't know if I agree with that.

1 they are fancy buns. 'Cup cakes' qualifies them as the fancy version.

2 Cup Cakes makes better use of illiteration while still being descriptive.

Buns is neither descriptive nor pleasing to the ear.

brevity

GO TEAM IRELAND'S!!!

rubadub

Eugene Norman wrote: »

I bet there are people employed in Tesco who call it Tescos, even in their CV.

on this very forum

axer wrote: »

Hi,

I am just fixing up my CV and I have in it that I worked in Tescos. I cant remember what my job title was there and im sure someone here must have an idea.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

1 they are fancy buns. 'Cup cakes' qualifies them as the fancy version.

It was always fairy cakes when I was growing up, buns could be bread or cakes, needs more info.

brevity wrote: »

GO TEAM IRELAND'S!!!

Sponsored by Easons's & Sons

Banjoxed

Je suis tres mal wrote: »

Hiberno-English is nothing but a bastardization of an actual language commonly referred to as "English".

Ah, shame you can't therefore appreciate the mingled frustration and accuracy of a phrase describing a broken down car from the perspective of the stranded driver;

"The fukkin' fukker is ****ed". One word, a noun, adjective and verb all in one. Pure feckin' poetry.

syklops

While on the subject I find "Eason's" grand, but "Tesco's" terrible (maybe that's totally peculiar to me)

Its not just you. Eason's = grand. Tesco's = slightly irritating.

RandomName2 wrote: »

FFS they have the same etymology. Do you think it's just coincidental that garda and guard sound almost exactly the same and have roughly the same meaning?

Mind you, that goes for a lotttt of Irish vocab.

I can't hear any difference in the pronunciation of 'Gard' and 'Guard'.

Ant695

Moro became boost.

wendell borton

Je suis tres mal wrote: »

Hiberno-English is nothing but a bastardization of an actual language commonly referred to as "English".

...and English is a bastardisation of Frisian.

OldMrBrennan83

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selous

RandomName2 wrote: »

FFS they have the same etymology. Do you think it's just coincidental that garda and guard sound almost exactly the same and have roughly the same meaning?

Mind you, that goes for a lotttt of Irish vocab.

While on the subject I find "Eason's" grand, but "Tesco's" terrible (maybe that's totally peculiar to me)

As far as I know An Garda Siochana is Irish for Peace Protector or Protector (guardian) of Peace,

mikhail

wendell borton wrote: »

...and English is a bastardisation of Frisian.

Enthusiastically humping French for all its vocabulary.

selous

The term "Sports tourer" in cars for an Estate,

Guy:Incognito

Buns are things you use to make a burger.

Guy:Incognito

selous wrote: »

The term "Sports tourer" in cars for an Estate,

Which irish car manufacturer started that?

LDN_Irish

Je suis tres mal wrote: »

Tesco's
Is the most annoying Oirishism of them all.

No, a lot of English people call it Tescos. You'll often hear "Asda's" despite no S in that either.

Billy86

mikhail wrote: »

Enthusiastically humping French for all its vocabulary.

The Normans made a right old mess of that English language alright!

selous

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Which irish car manufacturer started that?

Didn't say it was an Irish car manufacturer (??), just a terminology used.

http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1317534&r=s.php%3Ff1%3Dsports+tourer%26g%3D0

An Astra estate.

OldMrBrennan83

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