Changing terminology in Ireland

ComfortKid

Billy86 wrote:

Then a burger bun is not a bun at all. And what would the difference be between a bun and cake, then?

A burger bun is more of a bap really?

Difference is a bun is a lot smaller than a cake I suppose.

crockholm

tigerboon wrote: »

Read once General Montgomery, when broken down in the desert, asked his driver how it was looking. The reply " the fukkin fukker's fukkin fukked". Article said the driver was Irish

Tim Collins also uses a similar story,in his autobiography,except it was when the firemen went on strike and the army was called in to take over their duties.

jaymcg91

Language constantly evolves and changes - this thread just sounds like there are a few Victor Meldrews stuck in the past .

Sheep Lover

ComfortKid wrote: »

A burger bun is more of a bap really?

Difference is a bun is a lot smaller than a cake I suppose.

I'll go into Tesco tomorrow and ask to see their biggest baps and see what happens.

ComfortKid

Sheep Lover wrote:

I'll go into Tesco tomorrow and ask to see their biggest baps and see what happens.

Haha I hope they direct you to their obese male manager or something.

conorh91

Thespoofer wrote: »

Their not solicitors anymore, their lawyers... OMG, this one gets me.

Lawyers is a perfectly acceptable term when someone is addressing both barristers and solicitors, or when it isn't clear to which profession a person belongs, or when referring to all legal experts including retired persons and non-practicing academics.

Outside of those situations, people almost invariably tend to refer to counsel/barristers or solicitors.

sjb25

"I'm entitled to......."

Hate people saying it

ComfortKid

sjb25 wrote:

"I'm entitled to......."

sjb25 wrote:

Hate people saying it

Why? People are entitled to say they are entitled to something which they are actually entitled to.

sjb25

ComfortKid wrote: »

Why? People are entitled to say they are entitled to something which they are actually entitled to.

You may be right but look I just hate it sorry mayb I worked in a call centre for to long which made me hate people spefically people who think they are entitled to sh1t the are not and can't be told otherwise

Crooked Jack

Feekin'. what happened to feekin'? Young wans don't feek any more.

Crooked Jack

sjb25 wrote: »

You may be right but look I just hate it sorry mayb I worked in a call centre for to long which made me hate all members of the public

I worked in the E-Flow M50 Toll thing call centre when it first opened. I understand your misanthropy. People should be offered counselling when they leave call centre jobs.

sjb25

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I worked in the E-Flow M50 Toll thing call centre when it first opened. I understand your misanthropy. People should be offered counselling when they leave call centre jobs.

Aw I skipped out the door of the place but still have my anger bottled up

El_Duderino 09

Aineoil wrote:

I was listening to the Irish nine o'clock news yesterday and I mentioned the usage of "Team Ireland" to Mr A. I thought that was a new use of the language for Irish TV.

The Olympics is on now so it would be Wierd if everyone kept saying 'Irish Olympic team'. It would be like being in a Chinese restaurant and calling everything Chinese rice, Chinese lemon chicken, Chinese sweet and sour.

Agent Smith

The simple reason its called Team Ireland is because we compete as the island of Ireland, rather then Republic and Northern Ireland

ComfortKid

Agent Smith wrote:

The simple reason its called Team Ireland is because we compete as the island of Ireland, rather then Republic and Northern Ireland

No we don't. I thought Northern Ireland competes under "Team GB" ? Unless the individual opts to compete for the Republic of Ireland or "Team Ireland"

Mesrine65

Banjoxed wrote: »

The English language. Shamelessly enforced by England.

I shall now revert to mellifluous Irish.

Cat. Seo é Cat.

FYP

Digital Solitude

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Feekin'. what happened to feekin'? Young wans don't feek any more.

Some tinkers trying to start a fight with me in Subway by chatting up my girlfriend and asking were we feekin' have forever put me off the word.

Is that the same meaning?

selous

tigerboon wrote: »

Read once General Montgomery, when broken down in the desert, asked his driver how it was looking. The reply " the fukkin fukker's fukkin fukked". Article said the driver was Irish

Rumour has it so was Montgomery!!

Crooked Jack

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Some tinkers trying to start a fight with me in Subway by chatting up my girlfriend and asking were we feekin' have forever put me off the word.

Is that the same meaning?

Shifting/going with/making out/fingering on a regular basis...that sorta thing.

They sound like a real classy bunch. Hope you kicked their holes

Digital Solitude

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Shifting/going with/making out/fingering on a regular basis...that sorta thing.

They sound like a real classy bunch. Hope you kicked their holes

Four on one in their town, I hadn't a hope :mad: We just left.

Crooked Jack

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Four on one in their town, I hadn't a hope :mad: We just left.

Did you at least go home and bate the girlfriend?

ComfortKid

Crooked Jack wrote:

Did you at least go home and bate the girlfriend?

Home an feek da bure kid

PLL

I heard my boyfriend's friends talking about a girl they worked with the other day. Apparently she is shagging a few guys at work. I have known these lads for years and they have never used that word before. I hate the word, and it is English, I know this because I grew up in England and when I moved here at 18, people would laugh when I would say 'Did you shag him?'. 'Riding' , 'Meeting' , 'Feeking' 'Fúcking' were the appropriate terms for said encounter. So 6 years later, all of a sudden hearing a word used by people who used to laugh it, shows how language changes.

sm213

Billy86 wrote: »

As far back as I can remember (I'm 29 so longer than some, not as long as others) buns were always savoury unless otherwise specified (hot cross bun, cinnamon bun, etc). 'Cupcakes' or whatever you want to call them were typically called fairy cakes, or as someone above said, even queen cakes. Christ, even the odd time cup cakes. But a bun for me has always been something you put a burger in between, or something closer to a bap.

I thought this too. We got currant buns on a wed in primary school and they were bread rather than cake. Cake is cake and buns are not cake.

Bayberry

PLL wrote: »

So 6 years later, all of a sudden hearing a word used by people who used to laugh it, shows how language changes.

"Shag" was in use in my part of Dublin a lot longer than 6 years ago.

CelticRambler

Deleted User wrote: »

Tesco= ✓
Tescos = ✘

What happens when you've got two Tescos in the same town? Are they both wrong?

jaymcg91

CelticRambler wrote: »

What happens when you've got two Tescos in the same town? Are they both wrong?

Multiple Tesco are Tesci**








**That may be a lie

Crooked Jack

CelticRambler wrote: »

What happens when you've got two Tescos in the same town? Are they both wrong?

Ya needn't be looking to Tesco(s) for logic, with their "24 hour" shops that are open 7am-11pm

Crooked Jack

CelticRambler wrote: »

What happens when you've got two Tescos in the same town? Are they both wrong?

Ya needn't be looking to Tesco(s) for logic, with their "24 hour" shops that are open 7am-11pm

Paramite Pie

Je suis tres mal wrote: »

Hiberno-English is nothing but a bastardization of an actual language commonly referred to as "English".

Quite a lot Hiberno-English is just older 15th century English words that the English themselves dropped over time.

They even forgot how to say 'film' properly.... in Shakespeare's spelled it as 'philome' in Romeo & Juliet. So the two-syllable pronunciation is older.:pac:

riffmongous

ComfortKid wrote: »

No we don't. I thought Northern Ireland competes under "Team GB" ? Unless the individual opts to compete for the Republic of Ireland or "Team Ireland"

No Republic of Ireland outside soccer

ComfortKid

riffmongous wrote:

No Republic of Ireland outside soccer

How come there is a big debate about who Rory McIlroy will represent at the Olympics then?

ComfortKid

riffmongous wrote:

No Republic of Ireland outside soccer

A quick Google search tells me I'm right.

Northern Ireland is part of Great Britain, therefore people from Northern Ireland represent Great Britain unless they decided they want to represent Ireland.
The Republic of Ireland is the official name of Ireland.

OldMrBrennan83

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Bayberry

ComfortKid wrote: »

A quick Google search tells me I'm right.

Northern Ireland is part of Great Britain, therefore people from Northern Ireland represent Great Britain unless they decided they want to represent Ireland.

People from Northern Ireland have the right to choose to represent GB or Ireland if they play in a sport that isn't organized on an All-Ireland basis. Rugby players from Northern Ireland, for example, play for Ireland.

The Republic of Ireland is the official name of Ireland.

Not this one again.

Ireland is the official name of Ireland, or Éire in Irish.

Ireland is a Republic, and the term Republic of Ireland is the correct description of the state.

The Republic of Ireland Act 1948

It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland

Ireland (not the Republic of Ireland) is a member of the UN, the EU, the International Olympic Association, etc, etc, etc.

ComfortKid

This is a discussion on the Olympics. The UK Olympic team is called Great Britain, no? I used the term Republic in my original post as to not mix it up with Northern Ireland and I actually said the Republic or "Team Ireland"

I know football is the only sport we are referred to as the Republic of Ireland.

I did think our country was officially called the Republic, I stand corrected on that.

Bayberry

Bayberry wrote: »

People from Northern Ireland have the right to choose to represent GB or Ireland if they play in a sport that isn't organized on an All-Ireland basis. Rugby players from Northern Ireland, for example, play for Ireland.

I was a bit hasty with that. Boxing and Golf and Cycling and lots of other sports are organized on an All-Ireland basis, but Olympic representation is based on nationality. Because anyone born in NI is entitled to claim Irish or British nationality, they can choose which country to represent at International level.

This issue only arises where the actual competition is organized by nationality - Rory doesn't represent Ireland or Britain when he's playing golf most of the time, it's only in the Olympics qualification is restricted based on the players declared nationality.

selous

Amhrán na bhFiann isn't usually played at an all Ireland team event but Irelands (cough cough choke) call is. eg Hockey, Cricket Rugby (away matches) Golf could be next due to the number of Northern Irish players.

OldMrBrennan83

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ComfortKid

If players don't want to stand for our proper national anthem then they have no business playing for our country. That Irelands call is a disgrace

OldMrBrennan83

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moc moc a moc

agent graves wrote: »

People calling their other half "bae" instead of babe... lazy b*stards

People should refer to their other half by a term meaning an infant or pig?

selous wrote: »

Gardaí or Garda is Irish language its been English-ified now to Guards or Gards, :mad:

You realise you're saying all this in (grammatically incorrect) English, right?

tigerboon

selous wrote: »

Rumour has it so was Montgomery!!

Irish or fukkin fukked?

Qualitymark

"Oirish" - the most self-hating sneer in the language.

El_Duderino 09

Patww79 wrote:

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It would be a short thread because it's a stupid idea. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland should make a GB rugby team so we can call ourselves Ireland? Pisst, the rugby team is already called Ireland.

Our anthem is outdated, embarrassing, masochistic jibberish and should be replaced. Imagine our signature song being about fighting our nearest neighbours... a hundred years ago. Cringe.

cassid

We got an email in work in January discussing vacations, I work for an Irish organisation.

"Trick or treat", when did we stop saying "Help the halloween party",

FishOnABike

"Optics" - I know our Dáil has more than its share of publican TDs but when did appearance or image become "optics"

Billy86

Patww79 wrote: »

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Indeed there is a whole other thread in it, given the lack of a British team in many sports. Like, say, football. Or rugby.

ComfortKid wrote: »

If players don't want to stand for our proper national anthem then they have no business playing for our country. That Irelands call is a disgrace

The Irish rugby team is not the Republic of Ireland rugby team. Would you prefer God Save the Queen coming in after Amhran na bhFiann?

colossus-x

Deleted User wrote: »

Eason = ✓
Easons = ✘
Eason's books/restaurant/deals, etc (i.e. the books etc belonging to Eason & Co) = ✓

Tesco= ✓
Tescos = ✘
Tesco's books/café/deals, etc = ✓

Aldi = ✓
Aldis = ✘
Aldi's books/café/deals, etc = ✓

And so on. Not knowing how to use an apostrophe correctly is the sort of basic mistake which will get a job application thrown in the bin. Seriously.

When you hear employers say 'oh we can't get the staff' , would they have rejected applicants based on the fact that they didn't quite understand the correct usage policy for this

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conorh91

ComfortKid wrote: »

If players don't want to stand for our proper national anthem then they have no business playing for our country. That Irelands call is a disgrace

They're not just playing for our country. We don't play rugby as one country.

It's exactly the same as the Scottish rugby union and Italian union deciding to amalgamate. There's nothing to stop it happening. They'd be two legal jurisdictions playing under the one banner. At least it would end all uncertainty about the winner of the wooden spoon :pac: