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Guinness Pro12 2015/2016 Season thread

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    #362
    errlloyd
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    Table is pretty intense. 11 points covering the top 8. The teams at the bottom pushing up, the teams at the top beginning to slip.


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    #363
    vienne86
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    Table is pretty intense. 11 points covering the top 8. The teams at the bottom pushing up, the teams at the top beginning to slip.

    This weekend certainly tightened up the table - great for the neutral.


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    #364
    molloyjh
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    This weekend certainly tightened up the table - great for the neutral.

    Bad news for Connacht though I think. They've a tough second half to the season and their buffer is just 10 points at the moment between them and Ospreys in 8th. Between the fixture list and their injuries I fear things could get very tight for them towards the end of the season.

    Munster should be fine as their fixture list is far kinder than Connachts. But whether they can challenge for a top 4 place is another thing.


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    #365
    thomond2006
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    Rhys Webb has signed a dual contract to stay at Ospreys. Brilliant news for them and the Pro12, to add to Dan Biggar's extension announced at the beginning of the month. Alun-Wyn Jones' future is still up in the air.

    Edit: AWJ is still only 30! I thought he would be a few years older, he's been around forever!


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    #366
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    great for the neutral.

    Does such a beast exist ?

    I would have thought the Pro 12 is the kinda tourney that either you have a team in it, or you dont even know it exists (almost).


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    #367
    vienne86
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Does such a beast exist ?

    I would have thought the Pro 12 is the kinda tourney that either you have a team in it, or you dont even know it exists (almost).

    I think we all have a favourite team, but we have second and third favourites too.


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    #368
    Pink Fairy
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    I think we all have a favourite team, but we have second and third favourites too.

    No, I'm totally impartial.... I don't care who beats Leinster
    :);)


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    #369
    Journeyman_1
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    Pink Fairy wrote: »
    No, I'm totally impartial.... I don't care who beats Leinster
    :);)

    Huh, I though you liked Munster... my bad!


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    #370
    [Deleted User]
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    Pink Fairy wrote: »
    No, I'm totally impartial.... I don't care who beats Leinster
    :);)

    Joking aside, would the Munster lads on here support Leinster against non Irish teams?

    I ask because there were three cork lads at the home Toulon game cheering for Toulon. I always felt the support for Munster among Leinster fans was very much there, but never hear the reverse in action as much.


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    #371
    molloyjh
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Joking aside, would the Munster lads on here support Leinster against non Irish teams?

    I ask because there were three cork lads at the home Toulon game cheering for Toulon. I always felt the support for Munster among Leinster fans was very much there, but never hear the reverse in action as much.

    I wouldn't say that. I've seen groups of Leinster fans cheer for non-Irish teams in Munster games. You've got pockets of people like that everywhere. I wouldn't do it myself (unless Leinster needed Munster to lose) but some do.


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    #372
    vienne86
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that. I've seen groups of Leinster fans cheer for non-Irish teams in Munster games. You've got pockets of people like that everywhere. I wouldn't do it myself (unless Leinster needed Munster to lose) but some do.

    I have no time for shouting for non-Irish teams playing against Irish teams ......unless we really need the Irish team to lose for our own progress - and that is a rare enough occurrence.


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    #373
    wp_rathead
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    People are different, personally I'd always support an Irish Province against a non-Irish side.
    I then tend to support Ulster when they play either Leinster or Munster - and I never mind who wins the Leinster v Munster games
    I know some fellow Connacht fans who would never bring themselves to support an other Irish side and take joy in seeing them lose
    Like I said, people are different


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    #374
    Pink Fairy
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Joking aside, would the Munster lads on here support Leinster against non Irish teams?

    I ask because there were three cork lads at the home Toulon game cheering for Toulon. I always felt the support for Munster among Leinster fans was very much there, but never hear the reverse in action as much.

    I'd cheer for Leinster most times, unless they're playing Sarries, then Im all for Sarries winning.... Just to see ak explode :)


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    #375
    Zzippy
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    I have no time for shouting for non-Irish teams playing against Irish teams ......unless we really need the Irish team to lose for our own progress - and that is a rare enough occurrence.


    This. I was pretty shocked a few years ago, was down in west Cork visiting a friend and watched the Harlequins-Leinster HEC game. I was the only one in the pub supporting Leinster, every single other person there was celebrating when Quins scored. I couldn't understand cheering against another Irish team, unless they're playing your own....


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    #376
    thomond2006
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that. I've seen groups of Leinster fans cheer for non-Irish teams in Munster games. You've got pockets of people like that everywhere. I wouldn't do it myself (unless Leinster needed Munster to lose) but some do.

    I hate Leinster so much I bought their season ticket.


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    #377
    CatFromHue
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    This. I was pretty shocked a few years ago, was down in west Cork visiting a friend and watched the Harlequins-Leinster HEC game. I was the only one in the pub supporting Leinster, every single other person there was celebrating when Quins scored. I couldn't understand cheering against another Irish team, unless they're playing your own....

    Welcome to the mind of a Munster man.......


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    #378
    ClanofLams
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    Always support Irish provinces in Europe. In the Pro12 whatever is best for Connacht, though that's usually the Irish province winning anyway.


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    #379
    errlloyd
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    I'm very rational about supporting Irish teams. Our teams are all owned by the same organisation. They all generally contribute to the same aim. When it comes to it, my primary team is Ireland and I rely on the other 3 provinces to be playing well to contribute.

    For what it's worth I know most munster supporters are fairly sound about it. Whats weird is that I think it's the more casual fans and not the enthusiastic ones who tend to actively take pleasure from other teams struggling.


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    #380
    molloyjh
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    I'm very rational about supporting Irish teams. Our teams are all owned by the same organisation. They all generally contribute to the same aim. When it comes to it, my primary team is Ireland and I rely on the other 3 provinces to be playing well to contribute.

    For what it's worth I know most munster supporters are fairly sound about it. Whats weird is that I think it's the more casual fans and not the enthusiastic ones who tend to actively take pleasure from other teams struggling.

    The ultras do it too.


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    #381
    errlloyd
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    Edinburgh will play Glasgow in Murrayfield for the second week running. Scotsun is unplayable. Handy for Edinburgh, if they sneak another win out of it it puts pressure on the top 6.


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    #382
    vienne86
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    Edinburgh will play Glasgow in Murrayfield for the second week running. Scotsun is unplayable. Handy for Edinburgh, if they sneak another win out of it it puts pressure on the top 6.

    Will Glasgow let this happen again? i didn't see last week's match, so can't judge.


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    #383
    aimee1
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    Will Glasgow let this happen again? i didn't see last week's match, so can't judge.

    glasgow already have a few games postponed, Racing away in ERCC and Leinster at home in Pro12. They cant afford another postponement otherwise they will be playing games every few day near the end of the season


    http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/15180/10115362/glasgow-move-edinburgh-clash-to-murrayfield


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    #384
    Borders no.2
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    Will Glasgow let this happen again? i didn't see last week's match, so can't judge.

    Edinburgh were deserving winners in the first game. Glasgow started off well and got an early try and it looked like they would push on but Edinburgh dominated from there on in. There is the 1872 Cup to play for also which Edinburgh won last season so Glasgow will want to try and reel in that 12 point deficit also.

    In the early game today Ospreys beat Dragons 12-7 in a poor game. Looked like Ospreys would get a bonus point victory for a while but Dragons kept in touch and had a bit of pressure at the end without ever looking like they'd get the winning try.


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    #385
    aimee1
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    http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/adrumm/tom-james-marred-his-brilliant-performance-with-this-unsporting-act/

    Prat :mad:


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    #386
    thomond2006
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    Cardiff have done the provinces a big favour by beating Scarlets.


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    #387
    [Deleted User]
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    It's some championship this year, nothing at all in it.


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    #388
    Stheno
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    How do the Pro12 results affect the Champions Cup, as in how many of the teams in the pro12 can qualify for it?


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    #389
    thomond2006
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's some championship this year, nothing at all in it.

    Suddenly Cardiff are back in with a shout of a European spot and if you take a look at their remaining fixtures, 7 of 11 are at home and they have to play home and away to Treviso. Treviso have been close to a win to say the least...no wins but 7 LBPs. If they lose at home to Zebre on Sunday then their season is probably done.


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    #390
    connemara man
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    Stheno wrote: »
    How do the Pro12 results affect the Champions Cup, as in how many of the teams in the pro12 can qualify for it?

    7 teams qualify for the champions cup from the pro 12 the top team from each country and then the next best placed 3 teams in the league which usually means the top 6 and then either zebre and Treviso


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    #391
    Stheno
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    connemara man wrote: »
    7 teams qualify for the champions cup from the pro 12 the top team from each country and then the next best placed 3 teams in the league which usually means the top 6 and then either zebre and Treviso

    So looking at the current standings then if you took the table as it stands, it would be all Irish teams bar Munster would qualify?
    Scarlets go through for Wales, Edinburgh for Scotland, Leinster for Ireland, Zebre for Italy, leaving Connaught, Ospreys and Ulster taking the last three slots?

    That actually matches what you said, sorry, was just applying it to the current table.


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