Batman: Arkham Knight (performance issues)

FAILSAFE 00

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Me too. I ended up adding in the dreaded gameworks features manually as I have a dual GPU setup, but the basics loaded just fine.

If you disable SLI and dedicate 1 card to Physx you get a much more stable performance. A good few gamers with dual graphics cards are reporting that and I verified it myself.

Squaredude

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

One of the biggest questions is around this video. It was only released two weeks ago and shows the game running at 60fps and with features that aren't even in the final PC release. They would have known at that stage. Not sure how Nvidia can explain that one.

All the features in this video are in the PC release, unless I'm missing something?

Spear

Warner Bros have actually suspended sales of it:

http://kotaku.com/warner-bros-says-theyre-suspending-arkham-knight-pc-sal-1713780990

I can't recall anything as drastic as that happening recently to a AAA title.

lulzordan

Spear wrote: »

Warner Bros have actually suspended sales of it:

http://kotaku.com/warner-bros-says-theyre-suspending-arkham-knight-pc-sal-1713780990

I can't recall anything as drastic as that happening recently to a AAA title.

I think the last time it happened was with the AC Unity Season Pass, where they ended up gifting it to everyone who owned the game, and those who bought the pass where given either a refund or a free game.

I wonder if this will be similar, at least they told some people that they can go get a refund at their retail store/steam

tuxy

Squaredude wrote: »

All the features in this video are in the PC release, unless I'm missing something?

Well that video definitely has rain textures that the PC version does not have.
http://i.imgur.com/Md7V0YZ.png
Also the video has ambient occlusion which the PC version does not have.

I was just about to come on here and say they need to give this game to Iron works for a minimum of 2/3 months with an adequate budget.
I checked the game out on steam to make sure it has really been taken down and it has with a new release date of Fall this year.
There's a reasonable chance we will have a good game in a few months time.
I know it should have been done right from the start but I'm pleasantly surprised that they seem to be doing the right thing now.

Thank Christ I don't pre buy anymore

weisses

Deleted User wrote: »

Thank Christ I don't pre buy anymore

With the steam refunds pre order is actually something that could work again ... I stopped pre ordering a couple of years back but now I just can go for a refund or enjoy the pre order benefits if the game turns out to be okay

pleasant Co.

Those pc sales numbers must have been huge!

FAILSAFE 00

Nvidia have been so quiet during this.

johnny_ultimate

How will Green Man Gaming and the like offer refunds (which I'm guessing it's going to come to)? Surely it must be quite complicated when a Steam key has been validated...

Kiith

Pulling sales is a pretty big deal. Hopefully it means we get some proper progress of fixing the issues that are there (and maybe some free DLC as an apology :P).

The only thing i'd worry about, is if they decide this isn't worth the hassle, and pull pc support from future titles. Hopefully the sales figures are too high for them to consider this though. I guess we'll see in the next few days.

Shiminay

I finally got a chance to try play it last night. I'm under the minimum specs now having 2 X 6950's in Crossfire, but I thought I'd give it a look for the craic. Total mess - artifacts all across the screen and everything. Disappointing release, we saw Rockstar lead the way in getting it right (and they obviously still had some launch day problems) for PC - it's be released "when it's ready" and not "when marketing says so" being the order of the day there.

Still, as I said before, I've got Steam Sale acquisitions to play and a new graphics card to get anyway, so it's not the end of the world.

Agricola

Deleted User wrote: »

Thank Christ I don't pre buy anymore

My sentiments exactly. Bought Asylum and City not long after release on PC and loved them. Wouldnt even occur to me that a developer of this caliber could balls it up so badly. Between this kind of carry on, and most PC games needing plenty of early patches, I've just completely given up on new releases these days. Its 6 months later or steam sales for me now.

dunworth1

i'm so glad i didnt preorder and when i heard the new about it been broken on pc
i was ablle to pick it up for the xbox one and its working great on that

Star Lord

Shiminay wrote: »

I finally got a chance to try play it last night. I'm under the minimum specs now having 2 X 6950's in Crossfire, but I thought I'd give it a look for the craic. Total mess - artifacts all across the screen and everything. Disappointing release, we saw Rockstar lead the way in getting it right (and they obviously still had some launch day problems) for PC - it's be released "when it's ready" and not "when marketing says so" being the order of the day there.

Still, as I said before, I've got Steam Sale acquisitions to play and a new graphics card to get anyway, so it's not the end of the world.

I'll be building a new system soon, but decided to try it anyway. Everything is on low, 720p and some stuff like blurring turned off in the .ini gave me inconsistent frame rates and unplayable at times, by the new AMD beta driver made it MUCH better, actually playable and enjoyable now, even if it's nothing too special graphically. Still some screen tearing and some occasional frame rate dips, but it's greatly improved. I'm only on a 7870, and the benchmark tool was giving me a high of 95, low of 35, average 61, so to say it's variable is an understatement, but leaving the frame rate lock of 30 in place, keeps it pretty smooth now.

chrislad

Just deleted it after a couple of hours trying to get it started. It's a shame as this, and Assassins Creed Unity were the two games I was looking forward to the most. That worked out well for me.

I'll wait until the re-release when it might even start for me.

abbir

tuxy wrote: »

I checked the game out on steam to make sure it has really been taken down and it has with a new release date of Fall this year.

That release date of Fall is for the SteamOS, Linux and Mac versions. It's been written there for months. No clue when they'll start selling the Windows version again.

Maximus Alexander

Has this ever happened before? I can't think of an example.

kearneybobs

This almost certainly is a result of the steam refunds being introduced.

dreamers75

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Has this ever happened before? I can't think of an example.

That Dayz clone but think Steam pulled that rather than the dev.

kearneybobs

It just gets better and better.
Apparently, if you use the Nvidia gameworks then the game reverts back to Direct X10!
http://gamingbolt.com/batman-arkham-knight-apparently-reverts-to-directx-10-if-nvidia-gameworks-is-activated

Utter madness.

At least look at it this way. The Steam Refunds introduction will at least pressure some developers to ship a moderately working title on PC.

Ant695

premium edition is €28 on g2play. Might be worth getting it at that price rather than paying full whack when they release it again.

BenHK

Ant695 wrote: »

premium edition is €28 on g2play. Might be worth getting it at that price rather than paying full whack when they release it again.

I reckon paying one euro for this is one euro too much until the product is 100% stable and playable. I mean we don't even know when this thing will be up and running competently...perhaps not even until September/October and by then we'll have at the very minimum ten new must play titles that this won't be even on the radar anymore.

gizmo

kearneybobs wrote: »

It just gets better and better.
Apparently, if you use the Nvidia gameworks then the game reverts back to Direct X10!
http://gamingbolt.com/batman-arkham-knight-apparently-reverts-to-directx-10-if-nvidia-gameworks-is-activated

Utter madness.

At least look at it this way. The Steam Refunds introduction will at least pressure some developers to ship a moderately working title on PC.

Between the update to the original article here and other tweets such as the one from TB here, I'd wager that'll turn out to be false.

Robert ninja

This made me laugh http://fat.gfycat.com/HappygoluckySafeBarasingha.webm

BlitzKrieg

Any word from Nvidia? They've been egging up how good this was going to be on nvidia cards and how its the best way to play it etc etc. Giving away free copies if you buy one of their top end cards


and then it plays like sh*t on all of them.


God it would have been cheaper to buy a ps4 then some of those cards...

TheDoc

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Nvidia have been so quiet during this.

They have come out saying they have allocated resources and QA personal to WB games to utilize in order to improve and enhance the games performance.

They seem to have gone at lengths to stress it is not an Nvidia issue or a Gameworks issue.

AMD were asked for comment and if they would be offering services to Rocksteady, and they responded they were a little busy trying to optimise the game for AMD customers suffering from Gameworks closed source libraries. Shots fired (again)

TheDoc

I feel back for Rocksteady, and hope they don't get too badly burnt from WB decision to outsource the PC platform. Worth remembering Rocksteady made all the content, not the optimisation.

Got to have a go on a PS4 and the game from what I played was incredible. Those further through it are saying all round it's a fantastic game that is a fitting close to the franchise. Obviously the PC issues taking all the spotlight, but what is being lost is there is also a fantastic game here.

I havn't even contemplated a refund. I'll let it sit in the library until it gets fixed, and provides me time to play other games, focus on the new wow tier etc.

Definitely a pity though, hopefully when the game is sorted people who bailed come back and it gets the recognition it looks like it deserves in terms of a game.

TheDoc

BenHK wrote: »

I reckon paying one euro for this is one euro too much until the product is 100% stable and playable. I mean we don't even know when this thing will be up and running competently...perhaps not even until September/October and by then we'll have at the very minimum ten new must play titles that this won't be even on the radar anymore.

When did the first game come out?

I loaded it up there last week and plan to play through it and City and Origins before going through this (played all three but have a horrible habbit of not finishing them) Arkham Asylum is still a beautiful looking game and just a top game.

I think it's totally worth capitalising on any reduced prices based on the launch problems, and then play it when its running the way it should.

FAILSAFE 00

TheDoc wrote: »

I feel back for Rocksteady, and hope they don't get too badly burnt from WB decision to outsource the PC platform. Worth remembering Rocksteady made all the content, not the optimisation.

Do we know for sure that it was Warner Brothers that outsourced the PC port to Iron Galaxy Studios or was it Rocksteady that contracted IGS to port the game.
In a statement from Rocksteady they stated

Rocksteady wrote:

We are working closely with our external PC development partner to make sure these issues get resolved as quickly as possible