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Denis O'Brien, Catherine Murphy and the threatening lawsuit letters....

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    #152
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    silverfeather wrote: »
    Well they have a better chance than our lot or the maltese!

    Yes they have. Certain Americans are very, very cheesed off with Mr. Fathead going back a while, because some of his more "questionable" activity has cost them a *lot* of money.


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    #153
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Yes they have. Certain Americans are very, very cheesed off with Mr. Fathead going back a while, because some of his more "questionable" activity has cost them a *lot* of money.
    I am not too aware of that. I knew about a defamation case in California. But what else was he up to?


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    #154
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Surprised there hasn't been a DOS attack on the oireachtas.ie website been honest :pac:

    I think it's out of a certain persons sphere of knowledge. Maybe they could look up Low Orbit Ion Cannon (LOIC) :P


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    #155
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I think it's out of a certain persons sphere of knowledge.
    Knowledge can be hired.


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    #156
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    silverfeather wrote: »
    I am not too aware of that. I knew about a defamation case in California. But what else was he up to?

    Have a look at the whole GSM licensing/ESAT Digifone caper, and Motorola's dim view of it.


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    #157
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    silverfeather wrote: »
    Knowledge can be hired.

    True


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    #158
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users Posts: 7,936 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    i've a funny feeling that #redactedmovies will be the choice for friday afternoons movies and booze on moncrieff. if he'll read any of them out is another thing


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    #159
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Surprised there hasn't been a DOS attack on the oireachtas.ie website been honest :pac:

    That'd be a bit amateur, even for Captain Fathead.


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    #160
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    jimgoose wrote: »
    That'd be a bit amateur, even for Captain Fathead.

    I wonder what kind of backup model that website has, My dealings with Government body's in the past tells me I should be very worried.


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    #161
    shane7218
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭shane7218


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I wonder what kind of backup model that website has, My dealing's with Government body's in the past tells me I should be very worried.

    backup ?? Fat Chance


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    #162
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Chucken wrote: »
    People can bring down a government. WE are the people. I've never been as angry in my life. The whole thing just stinks.

    Labour could exit this government. That's all I see.


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    #163
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    JillyQ wrote: »
    It fairly difficult to get state contracts,I know when you do tender you have to go through hoops with tax clearence certs etc.

    Yes but that's exactly the point - "connected" people like DOB seem to get them far more often. My point is, he was found by Moriarty to have bribed a TD. He and any company he is involved with at a senior level should be permanently banned from any further involvement with state or semi state projects.

    Look I know it sounds harsh, but harsh penalties are the only way to force these gobsh!tes to play by the rules. Unfortunately, I believe some sections of Irish society have lived in a politically privileged bubble for so long (in some cases generations) that they must be forced, not taught, to behave ethically.


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    #164
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    Labour could exit this government. That's all I see.

    May sound silly, Would that bring the government down due to not having a majority ? And force an election ?


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    #165
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Yes but that's exactly the point - "connected" people like DOB seem to get them far more often. My point is, he was found by Moriarty to have bribed a TD. He and any company he is involved with at a senior level should be permanently banned from any further involvement with state or semi state projects.

    Look I know it sounds harsh, but harsh penalties are the only way to force these gobsh!tes to play by the rules. Unfortunately, I believe some sections of Irish society have lived in a politically privileged bubble for so long (in some cases generations) that they must be forced, not taught, to behave ethically.

    Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.


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    #166
    silverfeather
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.
    I dunno look at the MP peado ring. Look at Jimmy Saville and the gagging orders he had.


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    #167
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    May sound silly, Would that bring the government down due to not having a majority ? And force an election ?

    Yes. That's what I mean. The only way to change government. Labour might gain some votes from it, but I doubt it.


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    #168
    jimgoose
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I wonder what kind of backup model that website has, My dealings with Government body's in the past tells me I should be very worried.

    Meh. Obviously Fathead can pay to have anything removed/destroyed in this corrupt little sh1thole, until he is stopped by a civilised jurisdiction.


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    #169
    mickdw
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.

    Ryan giggs had a fair go at creating a media blackout but it had the opposite effect. Hopefully this will go the same way and Mr redacted will only succeed in digging a hole so big that an entire government can fall in


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    #170
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Meh. Obviously Fathead can pay to have anything removed/destroyed in this corrupt little sh1thole, until he is stopped by a civilised jurisdiction.

    I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the EU/EZ but they have their uses. I wonder if it has registered yet in our partners minds. As a Foreigner I think Ireland needs outside help on this one. Have been here over 2 decades and seen how things are run something needs to be done as the voice of the people seems to get silenced.


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    #171
    jimgoose
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the EU/EZ but they have their uses. I wonder if it has registered yet in our partners minds. As a Foreigner I think Ireland needs outside help on this one. Have been here over 2 decades and seen how things are run something needs to be done as the voice of the people seems to get silenced.

    I was thinking more along the lines of Illinois or Texas than any Europrats.


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    #172
    Eugene Norman
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    The most apalling thing is that, at the time when the tax payer is on the ropes to bail out a previously corrupt bank the public official charged with taking it over, according to Murphy, grants a special deal to a man already proven to be corrupt by a tribunal.

    It's just the knowledge that they can get away with it.


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    #173
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    jimgoose wrote: »
    I was thinking more along the lines of Illinois or Texas than any Europrats.

    I don't think anything has been done to harm the U.S. or in U.S. jurisdictions. Pity.


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    #174
    mickoc
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭mickoc


    1.4% he is paying on his loan? I pay 4.5% on mine and he has at least a thousand thousand million more Euro then I have. Where is the fairness.


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    #175
    darkpagandeath
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    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    The most apalling thing is that, at the time when the tax payer is on the ropes to bail out a previously corrupt bank the public official charged with taking it over grants a special deal to a man already proven to be corrupt by a tribunal.

    It's just the knowledge that they can get away with it.

    I don't know this could be a watershed moment Fingers crossed you can only turn public opinion so far against you until that opinion becomes toxic.


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    #176
    Smiles35
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    Twin us with Delaware. Wait for a landing craft full of accountants.


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    #177
    hatrickpatrick
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.

    I don't know, to be honest. The UK is not a nation I would have chosen as a model for freedom of speech - look how DA-notices were used to quickly dampen the Snowden scandal when it first broke. For a long time, even such outlets as the BBC were nervous about reporting fully on GCHQ stories, and the Guardian's UK office was invaded by special agents who supervised the forced destruction of computer equipment storing the top secret documents.

    So... I wouldn't aspire to have a media system like the UK's. We need a constitutional right to freedom of speech in Ireland which makes it difficult or impossible to censor people in court. Libel laws should further be restricted to printing untruths about people - currently, they are often used to silence true, but embarrassing stories on technical grounds.


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    #178
    darkpagandeath
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I don't know, to be honest. The UK is not a nation I would have chosen as a model for freedom of speech - look how DA-notices were used to quickly dampen the Snowden scandal when it first broke. For a long time, even such outlets as the BBC were nervous about reporting fully on GCHQ stories, and the Guardian's UK office was invaded by special agents who supervised the forced destruction of computer equipment storing the top secret documents.

    So... I wouldn't aspire to have a media system like the UK's. We need a constitutional right to freedom of speech in Ireland which makes it difficult or impossible to censor people in court. Libel laws should further be restricted to printing untruths about people - currently, they are often used to silence true, but embarrassing stories on technical grounds.

    Was only using our nearest neighbour as an example.


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    #179
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I don't know this could be a watershed moment Fingers crossed you can only turn public opinion so far against you until that opinion becomes toxic.
    It's not exposed enough. People are not talking about it enough.


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    #180
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    silverfeather wrote: »
    It's not exposed enough. People are not talking about it enough.

    Odd I'm trying to find the twitter trending and a person is not mentioned.


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    #181
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 18,911 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Funny...none of the usual suspects running to Dinny's rescue on Boards?

    It must be late.


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