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Denis O'Brien, Catherine Murphy and the threatening lawsuit letters....

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    #62
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    silverfeather wrote: »
    Who now though ??:confused:

    With revelations like this I can't think of anyone but Independents. But cant see that being a government that can get anything done.


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    #63
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    You can not be sued for reporting something that has been said in the Dail.
    No but you can be threatened with lawsuit as the Broadsheet have and just getting into court to prove you are innocent can cost quite a bit (hence why other media outlets have taken their pieces down).

    Whether or not you are ACTUALLY guilty or you can even be sued, that's kinda secondary sometimes :)


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    #64
    Chucken
    Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    With revelations like this I can't think of anyone but Independents. But cant see that being a government that can get anything done.

    Could it get any worse? I'm serious.


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    #65
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    independents would turn the dail back into a debating chamber where votes ACTUALLY MATTERED rather then the abandoned rubber-stamping station it currently is.


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    #66
    darkpagandeath
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    Chucken wrote: »
    Could it get any worse? I'm serious.

    Pass.


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    #67
    [Deleted User]
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    silverfeather wrote: »
    It's why the media won't tough him. Fear of powerful litigation is ....powerful.

    And that he owns half the media in the first place (the government owns a huge chunk of the rest)


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    #68
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    With revelations like this I can't think of anyone but Independents. But cant see that being a government that can get anything done.
    Avril Power just went independent.


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    #69
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And that he owns half the media in the first place (the government owns a huge chunk of the rest)
    He can close off access to the other half and make it difficult for them too.


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    #70
    RecordStraight
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    Chucken wrote: »
    Could it get any worse? I'm serious.
    Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.


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    #71
    silverfeather
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    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.
    We shouldn't have to pay this price for that though.


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    #72
    Chucken
    Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.

    Let Angela rewrite their agreement then!

    And it's not Syrizas fault Greece are where they are.


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    #73
    RecordStraight
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    silverfeather wrote: »
    We shouldn't have to pay this price for that though.
    Well the jury's still out on exactly went on. As I've said above, it looks like Noonan was furious when he learned what happened, so to suggest it's part of some sort of FG plot looks a tad premature.

    If anything is proved though, I'd like to see people in prison.


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    #74
    Blowfish
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    silverfeather wrote: »
    But why then is the professional Irish media ignoring it?
    They will report on it, just do it indirectly, just as RTE have just done.


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    #75
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Correct me if I'm wrong but was'nt the judge who presided over the protection of poor denis a recent FG appointee?


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    #76
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Ok, but this thread isn't a debate on the future of the dail or the prom note (and I include myself in that mock-scolding :) ).


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    #77
    FalconGirl
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    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.

    As good as we are doing, misuse of taxpayer funds must still be punished no matter who is involved.


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    #78
    tayto lover
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    RecordStraight wrote: »
    Well the jury's still out on exactly went on. As I've said above, it looks like Noonan was furious when he learned what happened, so to suggest it's part of some sort of FG plot looks a tad premature.

    If anything is proved though, I'd like to see people in prison.

    With the write-down, favourable contracts for SiteServ etc ....I just wonder.
    That and the previous Esat deal ......hmmmm.


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    #79
    silverfeather
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but was'nt the judge who presided over the protection of poor denis a recent FG appointee?
    You're not wrong.


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    #80
    silverfeather
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    With the write-down, favourable contracts for SiteServ etc ....I just wonder.
    That and the previous Esat deal ......hmmmm.
    Des Carvill has a lot to answer to.


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    #81
    TallGlass
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    Blowfish wrote: »
    They will report on it, just do it indirectly, just as RTE have just done.

    Had to LOL at this on the RTE page;
    Mr O'Brien today accused Ms Murphy of making false statements about him. He said it was a deliberate abuse of Dáil privilege.
    He claimed her ultimate objective was electoral advancement with a disregard for the truth.
    You would actually swear that he is not the one blocking the truth from coming out.


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    #82
    Blowfish
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    Incidentally, if the video starts disapearing, this is where the oireachtas uploads it's official recordings so it'll be fully available there for the next while at least...


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    #83
    Chucken
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    DeVore wrote: »
    Ok, but this thread isn't a debate on the future of the dail or the prom note (and I include myself in that mock-scolding :) ).

    It's about censorship. Yes. But if they keep up this keeping the likes of DOB happy, how long before they wade in here?

    *Remembering the Sherlock debate* Sure he was trying to tell you that we don't need to know certain things.


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    #84
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." -- George Orwell.


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    #85
    RecordStraight
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    FalconGirl wrote: »
    As good as we are doing, misuse of taxpayer funds must still be punished no matter who is involved.
    Most definitely.


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    #86
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    tayto lover wrote: »
    With the write-down, favourable contracts for SiteServ etc ....I just wonder.
    That and the previous Esat deal ......hmmmm.
    One wonders how far back this goes actually.


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    #87
    VinLieger
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    Chucken wrote: »
    Let Angela rewrite their agreement then!

    And it's not Syrizas fault Greece are where they are.

    Nope it's the Greek people and their refusal to acknowledge reality


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    #88
    silverfeather
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    Blowfish wrote: »
    Incidentally, if the video starts disapearing, this is where the oireachtas uploads it's official recordings so it'll be fully available there for the next while at least...
    That is very awkward to navigate. :-/


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    #89
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users Posts: 5,099 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    This is indeed a huge scandal for the government.

    However the people have been saturated by corruption and scandals, so it won't register as much as it should.

    Would not surprise me if Enda still refuses to even discuss it


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    #90
    silverfeather
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭silverfeather


    keeponhurling wrote: »
    However the people have been saturated by corruption and scandals, so it won't register as much as it should.
    We need to make sure it registers! We can have to share it! Keep sharing links etc.


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    #91
    Banjo String
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    VinLieger wrote: »
    Nope it's the Greek people and their refusal to acknowledge reality

    This thread is not about Greece, Sinn Fein, or any other cute distraction.


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