Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread

Grueller

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts115a/22116791

What do we think? Genuine or a complete scam? 280hrs on that tractor sounds fishy to me.

MickeyShtyles

Grueller wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts115a/22116791

What do we think? Genuine or a complete scam? 280hrs on that tractor sounds fishy to me.

Bit fishy for an 15 yr old tractor to have 280hrs...
We’ve an 2011 with just over 500 but I know where it’s been.

wrangler

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Bit fishy for an 15 yr old tractor to have 280hrs...
We’ve an 2011 with just over 500 but I know where it’s been.

I've a 2016 tractor here with 8hrs after the dash being replaced

maidhc

Grueller wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts115a/22116791

What do we think? Genuine or a complete scam? 280hrs on that tractor sounds fishy to me.

"Barn Find" you would wonder about the guy who parked a 65k tractor in the "barn" and forgot it.

My '00 TS115 does so little I worry it will get forgotten about in the back of the shed at times, but it still has 5600hrs on the clock.

ganmo

there was a similar tractor a while back that LH was able to confirm was genuine, could it be the same machine?

GrasstoMilk

Grueller wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-ts115a/22116791

What do we think? Genuine or a complete scam? 280hrs on that tractor sounds fishy to me.

It certainly looks like a tractor that has done very little but that can be done with a bit of paint and elbow grease

Donald Trump

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

It certainly looks like a tractor that has done very little but that can be done with a bit of paint and elbow grease

You'd have to imagine though that 280hrs would be easy to spot for a mechanic at least. There shouldn't be a bit of wear on it at all. Tyres should be 95%. And replaced parts would be a giveaway. Paint should be gone off moving/rubbing parts, but not excessively so. There is a little bit of paint gone from the pick-up hitch but nothing from the PTO from the photos. If the entire back linkage was clear so as to have either never been used, or repainted, and there is no loader on it, then you'd have to question what it was doing to put up even the 240 hours if there is no wear at all to the paint. And if it was resprayed, then that's a whole other ball game.


If it was 2000 hrs it would still be low hours but with a plausible explanation for any wear and tear.


If you were going to clock it, you'd set it to 2000 rather than 280 I'd say!


The question is, what would pay for it? I would say you'd have to look at the very best of a similar aged one with lowest plausibly normal hours and then add a bit of a premium on top of that. I wouldn't add a huge premium though. Maybe 10-20%?


As for forgetting about it for 15 years....not really plausible except in exceptional circumstances - original owner died and farm was let out for 15 years or something. Perhaps it might be left in a shed for 15 years if you had a "loan" of it and you wanted to wait until the owner forgot about it (or you managed to find nice new reg details for it!)

Muckit

I've 03 tractor here with 1700hrs on clock. Bought in 06 with 300hrs. Small beef farm.

A lot of my maintenance issues are from things sticking/rusting/rubber perishing etc rather than ftom parts getting worn out!!

White Clover

Muckit wrote: »

I've 03 tractor here with 1700hrs on clock. Bought in 06 with 300hrs. Small beef farm.

A lot of my maintenance issues are from things sticking/rusting/rubber perishing etc rather than ftom parts getting worn out!!

Similar story here, I have an 04 tractor with 1900 hours. Bought 5 years ago with 800 hours on the clock. 2 other older tractors on the farm here too.

Grueller

Muckit wrote: »

I've 03 tractor here with 1700hrs on clock. Bought in 06 with 300hrs. Small beef farm.

A lot of my maintenance issues are from things sticking/rusting/rubber perishing etc rather than ftom parts getting worn out!!

Bet she is not a 115hp, 6 cylinder unit though.

emaherx

Donald Trump wrote: »

As for forgetting about it for 15 years....not really plausible except in exceptional circumstances - original owner died and farm was let out for 15 years or something. Perhaps it might be left in a shed for 15 years if you had a "loan" of it and you wanted to wait until the owner forgot about it (or you managed to find nice new reg details for it!)

It's not impossible though.

https://youtu.be/xuX2nV0gSOU

https://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/massey-ferguson-135-five-hours-work-in-35-years

https://discuss.machinerypete.com/t/1983-jd-8820-combine-with-0-sep-hours-to-sell-at-auction/1169

Waffletraktor

X6.430macman wrote: »

While on the subject of cvt I've a stupid question... Is it possible to set all of them up the drive on the throttle alone. I drove a challenger 645D (Massey 8600??) that had a cvt and couldn't figure out how to set it up to drive that way, when coming down to a junction I would just pull it back manually... I know this probably isn't right as doing it abruptly makes a less than pleasant sound from the tranny

It’s a button with (foot throttle)/(gear shifter) emblems on it. Though the Challenger set up may be cheapened down as that’s the brand they push in South America/Eastern Europe/states/Ozzie rather than higher euro spec type stuff.

Say my name

The future is now.

https://twitter.com/ManureProf/status/1138820987762483201?s=20

tractorporn

Some high class messing going on here!


https://twitter.com/willy_ledger/status/1138539975874678784?s=09

Buford T. Justice XIX

Donald Trump wrote: »

You'd have to imagine though that 280hrs would be easy to spot for a mechanic at least. There shouldn't be a bit of wear on it at all. Tyres should be 95%. And replaced parts would be a giveaway. Paint should be gone off moving/rubbing parts, but not excessively so. There is a little bit of paint gone from the pick-up hitch but nothing from the PTO from the photos. If the entire back linkage was clear so as to have either never been used, or repainted, and there is no loader on it, then you'd have to question what it was doing to put up even the 240 hours if there is no wear at all to the paint. And if it was resprayed, then that's a whole other ball game.


If it was 2000 hrs it would still be low hours but with a plausible explanation for any wear and tear.


If you were going to clock it, you'd set it to 2000 rather than 280 I'd say!


The question is, what would pay for it? I would say you'd have to look at the very best of a similar aged one with lowest plausibly normal hours and then add a bit of a premium on top of that. I wouldn't add a huge premium though. Maybe 10-20%?


As for forgetting about it for 15 years....not really plausible except in exceptional circumstances - original owner died and farm was let out for 15 years or something. Perhaps it might be left in a shed for 15 years if you had a "loan" of it and you wanted to wait until the owner forgot about it (or you managed to find nice new reg details for it!)

I know of a 150+hp JD with full autosteer tech sitting in a shed with 11 years now. Hasn't moved at all since a few weeks after buying.

roosterman71

Hello everybody

visatorro wrote: »

Case CVX is meant to be a great yoke.
Fendt are alleged to be the dogs bollox but as dawg says poor operater will **** up anything.
Great comfort with anyway vario. It's a mix of automatic and hydrostatic.

Maybe rooster man might comment on how him and the old lad are getting on with their vario box.

I'm only too glad to give input here, cos, let's be honest, I pure love me tractor!
So the Vario is the only way anything should be driven ever. It's absolutely, the best thing ever. If I only had a right leg, I'd be able to drive the tractor as well as I do now. The clutch is never used apart from turning on the engine (although, sometimes something might happen and ya revert to the old skills of flooring clutch and brake). The father doesn't drive it much. He's still scared ****eless.

X6.430macman wrote: »

Yes I agree there, there's a Cummins 535 here and it's unbelievable to pull, the 550 isn't near the power of the 535.

While on the subject of cvt I've a stupid question... Is it possible to set all of them up the drive on the throttle alone. I drove a challenger 645D (Massey 8600??) that had a cvt and couldn't figure out how to set it up to drive that way, when coming down to a junction I would just pull it back manually... I know this probably isn't right as doing it abruptly makes a less than pleasant sound from the tranny

On the Fendt, this is TMS (Tractor Management System). So the foot peddle that is usually the throttle is used to move the tractor. Push down further = go faster. You can set the engine revs and then the Vario will control the speed. There is a dial that you can set the max speed to so the peddle then will go anywhere between 0 and that max. There are also 2 cruise control settings that you can set and use. For example, I've one cruise control set to MAX. Once I've began to drive on the road, just engage it and sit back. The tractor will rev and accelerate to MAX.

I was spreading slurry yesterday. 2 cruise control speeds set - 6km/h and MAX. Fly down the road at MAX and slow into the field, then engage the slower speed and work away. Then use the peddle to get going back out of the field and engage MAX again. Tractor would never stop moving once tank was filled till it needed to be filled again. Vario gives you comfort and ease for driving.

Any other questions, shout

cjpm

I was thinking that the Fendt salesman would be on shortly

Only messing, glad you're so happy with it

Odelay

tractorporn wrote: »

Some high class messing going on here!


https://twitter.com/willy_ledger/status/1138539975874678784?s=09

I’d run them out of the place.

Base price

tractorporn wrote: »

Some high class messing going on here!


https://twitter.com/willy_ledger/status/1138539975874678784?s=09

I smiled when I saw that video as we had a simular experience last weekend. A near neighbour who keeps sucklers called to the yard and asked OH if we still had the creels of our tipping trailer and could he borrow it. Due to the continuous wet weather he decided not to get his contractor to mow and pit his silage cause he reckoned it wasn't going to be any addition. He took his redundant single chop outta the shed to do the job. After lot of fooks, grinding discs and welding rods the creels were back on the tipping trailer.

Anyway he got his silage pitted and covered on Monday.

Grueller

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/claas-arion-540-cis/22126272

David's tractor?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Odelay wrote: »

I’d run them out of the place.

That lark is better to them than a month in the south of Spain. Pure enjoyment and the silage is just a byproduct.

patsy_mccabe

Guys, Massey 4235 - Back end oil, anyone know what oil it takes? Is it the same oil for the transmission and hydraulics?

hopeso

Grueller wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/claas-arion-540-cis/22126272

David's tractor?

Not sure, on an L reg plate? Well kept tractor for the hours, though.....

hopeso

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Guys, Massey 4235 - Back end oil, anyone know what oil it takes? Is it the same oil for the transmission and hydraulics?

Super universal tractor oil. Same oil does both....

davidk1394

Grueller wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/claas-arion-540-cis/22126272

David's tractor?

No mine was a 530 WX reg. That’s for sale with a year or so.

davidk1394

tractorporn wrote: »

Some high class messing going on here!


https://twitter.com/willy_ledger/status/1138539975874678784?s=09

I’d love to give a day there just for the pure messing and hardship. I’d like to do my own silage with a few friend and a 1905 New Holland harvester.

Donald Trump

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I know of a 150+hp JD with full autosteer tech sitting in a shed with 11 years now. Hasn't moved at all since a few weeks after buying.

Whats the story with it though? Some multi-millionaire hobby farmer?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Donald Trump wrote: »

Whats the story with it though? Some multi-millionaire hobby farmer?

There's a long story there but it involves a bank and off farm investments. I doubt it'll ever do a stroke of work again. Terrible waste:(

GrasstoMilk

Odelay wrote: »

I’d run them out of the place.

By the looks if it its the farmers own machinery and he has gathered up a few young lads to drive.
I would imagine the storey of the day at silage in that farm will be retold for many a year in the pub.
Sure ye cant beat it!

Here's the full video

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1103123309879515&id=349520515239802&sfnsn=mo

9935452

kevthegaff wrote: »

Is that the reason fendt is more economical with diesel

On the grassmen dvds luke furse did a fuel comparison for some magazine.
He put a john deere pumping slurry for a day.
Then the following day put a fendt doing the same job and the fendt was a good bit lighter on fuel at pto work . So kinda rules out vario.

On another grassmen dvd . Mark troy in cork was running vario fendts and masseys. Used to change them at 5k hours because they supposedly gave bother at 6 or 7 k