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Bass Reeves

whelan2 wrote: »

How come lads do be falling over themselves to bid on lunatic cattle. Was a lim bullock tried jumping the ring a few times and then went out the small drovers gate. Took a while to get him back. Think he was around 460kg made 1200 euro. Also was 2 massive 3 year old bullocks 664 kg no bids at 700 euro...

There is no allowing for stupidity.

cj maxx

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I think that due to the issues with bull beef in recent times that the day of carrying weanlings through to such weights is largely over. It seems that the further over 350kgs a weanling goes the closer to €2 a kg the price comes. For example I've seen bulls at 300kg make over €850 and others at 500kg struggle to cross €1000, 200kg heavier for €200 more. I only did ordinary maths in school but even I can see the economics of that, imo there's one time to sell a weanling and that's straight off the cow at circa 300kg. If you feed him into much more you would need to hang him up to see the benefit.

Seen myself at the weekend. Big prices for 350 kg bulls and same if not less for 550 kg

kk.man

whelan2 wrote: »

How come lads do be falling over themselves to bid on lunatic cattle. Was a lim bullock tried jumping the ring a few times and then went out the small drovers gate. Took a while to get him back. Think he was around 460kg made 1200 euro. Also was 2 massive 3 year old bullocks 664 kg no bids at 700 euro...

The 2 big lads got no bids because factories are not taken anymore cattle that's on their books which can mean a 2 week back log. They have instructed their agents not to quote for cattle. The kill is down because they have restricted the kill.

Albert Johnson

whelan2 wrote: »

How come lads do be falling over themselves to bid on lunatic cattle. Was a lim bullock tried jumping the ring a few times and then went out the small drovers gate. Took a while to get him back. Think he was around 460kg made 1200 euro. Also was 2 massive 3 year old bullocks 664 kg no bids at 700 euro...

He must have been a right bullock if he clinched €1200 at that weight. Regarding his temperament perhaps he was quiet at home as is usually said of such stock. If you had patience and a big enough ranch then he might not be that big of an inconvenience. However if you wanted a few cattle for the field behind the house or were inclined to wave, shout and wear a high viz jacket after stock then you'd be better leave him off tbh.

I remember a particularly wild cow heifer in the mart one night a few years back. She was about a 3 year old roan LMx type, a super cow maker if she wasn't such a total tramp of a beast. Even with 2 other cows in the ring with her she roared and done her best to cross the railings ringside. The auctioneer never missed a beat while this was going on, he announced her as a "maiden heifer", she never had a calf. As said cow tore out the gate he remarked that "the bull just wasn't quick enough". I'd imagine some man with a bolt gun slowed her down shortly afterwards.

Cavanjack

whelan2 wrote: »

How come lads do be falling over themselves to bid on lunatic cattle. Was a lim bullock tried jumping the ring a few times and then went out the small drovers gate. Took a while to get him back. Think he was around 460kg made 1200 euro. Also was 2 massive 3 year old bullocks 664 kg no bids at 700 euro...

I think its a case of "look at me" when lads buy these type of cattle.

Albert Johnson

Cavanjack wrote: »

I think its a case of "look at me" when lads buy these type of cattle.

If the price is right there's a man for everything in fairness, all stock either end up in the factory or the knackery eventually. It's the same for wild, lame or otherwise unusual stock, I've seen a fair variety of cattle about marts and yards and they all go into the same vacuum pack when the time comes.

Cavanjack

I see an awful increase in horned animals presented for sale recently. While I don't like them they are sometimes value but the mart is no place for them. Saw a wild one recently that nearly hit every man around the ring with a horn. It would destroy anyone who came in contact with it. The marts should enforce the no horn rule .

hopeso

Albert Johnson wrote: »

If the price is right there's a man for everything in fairness, all stock either end up in the factory or the knackery eventually. It's the same for wild, lame or otherwise unusual stock, I've seen a fair variety of cattle about marts and yards and they all go into the same vacuum pack when the time comes.

They may well end up in the same place, but a wild beast like that could ruin a herd of cattle during the summer grazing.... There's nothing worse than going out to look at cattle, and seeing the heads up and taking off as soon as they see you coming....And that's before you try to put them in, or handle them... :eek:

hopeso

Cavanjack wrote: »

I think its a case of "look at me" when lads buy these type of cattle.

And it's probably a dealer, who'll off load him to some unfortunate soul......

Albert Johnson

Cavanjack wrote: »

I see an awful increase in horned animals presented for sale recently. While I don't like them they are sometimes value but the mart is no place for them. Saw a wild one recently that nearly hit every man around the ring with a horn. It would destroy anyone who came in contact with it. The marts should enforce the no horn rule .

The no horn rule isn't necessarily a no horn rule. The official department stance on the matter as explained to me by a department official is horned cattle penned separately and sold at the end of the sale, there not to be mixed with other stock at any time while in the mart. The mart can of course refuse to accept horned cattle but that's an individual mart policy opposed to a department imposed one.

Albert Johnson

hopeso wrote: »

They may well end up in the same place, but a wild beast like that could ruin a herd of cattle during the summer grazing.... There's nothing worse than going out to look at cattle, and seeing the heads up and taking off as soon as they see you coming....And that's before you try to put them in, or handle them... :eek:

I know all about the like, having the help hide in the jeep until there corralled for fear they'd bolt at the sight of a stranger. Tempting them with meal for a week before the herd test and saying a prayer the morning of such that the pen will contain them upon the arrival of the vet. I'm a very patient individual which helps when dealing with such stock, I think patsy mccabe posted a link to the way they handle semi feral stock in mainland Europe. I've seen herd tests somewhat similar locally, there is a bit of an adrenaline rush attached to the job to be fair.

Anto_Meath

Bought 3 Simx Bullock's together one night, the name in the board was a woman from about 20 miles away (heard after all her cattle are mad so she goes to different marts each year). They were grand and quite in the ring and been loaded that night. Next evening went to the shed to look at them they tried to climb the back wall Stone mad. Put them out with a few quite cattle but they never settled & drove others mad to.(I am convinced they were doped) About two months later 1 bank holiday Monday I managed to get them into the yard and landed them back in the Mart. For the 2 months they put on 10kgs (all the nerves they couldn't trive) and made €25 more than they costs. They were bought by 1 of the local big feed lots & again were grand and quite in the ring.

Danzy

I've a heifer who In the last 6 months kicked me in the head from the crush and also cut the vets lip with a kick another day.

Could easily have been 2 great funerals.

Some animals you hate to see face the bolt and others you can't wait.

A wild animal is always too much of a problem.

Pidae.m

Once I bought a heifer in the mart and the owner told me to watch her she's wild. There wasn't a bother on her in the ring and loading her. Once we got home she was kamakasi, blew the gates
off the box. think he could of injected her with a mild sedation or something. Never seen it before or since.

hopeso

Pidae.m wrote: »

Once I bought a heifer in the mart and the owner told me to watch her she's wild. There wasn't a bother on her in the ring and loading her. Once we got home she was kamakasi, blew the gates
off the box. think he could of injected her with a mild sedation or something. Never seen it before or since.

It probably happens more often than we realise. Anyone found guilty of sedating a wild bovine for the purpose of selling it to some unsuspecting customer should be dealt with severely, or do we wait until someone is killed?

valtra2

Looking for a guide price for lm hefiers average weight 450kg 12 to 14 month old mostly u grade. Is 2.50 about right

Robson99

valtra2 wrote: »

Looking for a guide price for lm hefiers average weight 450kg 12 to 14 month old mostly u grade. Is 2.50 about right

Limousine about that. Charlies up to 2.70

tanko

valtra2 wrote: »

Looking for a guide price for lm hefiers average weight 450kg 12 to 14 month old mostly u grade. Is 2.50 about right

A friend sold two smashing white Charolais heifers 12 months old, last week, 435kgs €1090 and 400kgs €1020. They were off GPD.

Sugarbowl

What about Angus? Weight about 450 kg aged Nov 2017.

tanko

Sorry, dont know, wasn't there.

Albert Johnson

Sugarbowl wrote: »

What about Angus? Weight about 450 kg aged Nov 2017.

Suckler or dairy types? I'd imagine that circa €2-2.20 a kilo for suckler bred stock and maybe 20c less a kilo for dairy types.

Fine Day

Sugarbowl wrote: »

What about Angus? Weight about 450 kg aged Nov 2017.

Sold a few heifers today. Had 2 Angus. 525kgs made €1030 & 585kgs made €1050. Both bucket reared & 2 years old but were nice shape. Would require further feeding before ready for factory.

Sugarbowl

Mines a good suckie heifer - fine block of an animal. Rated 3 star now as her sire stars have fallen a lot over the last few years. Not sure whether to keep her for breeding or to sell at the 17/18 months. Must drop in to my local mart to see a heifer sale.

Bass Reeves

Theheff wrote: »

Sold a few heifers today. Had 2 Angus. 525kgs made €1030 & 585kgs made €1050. Both bucket reared & 2 years old but were nice shape. Would require further feeding before ready for factory.

Hard to see much of a margin on either of them for the lad buying them. Add 40 euro in mart and slaughter fees as well as transport.

Fine Day

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Hard to see much of a margin on either of them for the lad buying them. Add 40 euro in mart and slaughter fees as well as transport.

For an ordinary farmer id agree but for the guys you have contracts with the factory I am sure would do better. I believe they are up to 30 to 40 cents per kg over base price.

Mac Taylor

Sold a black limx 350kgs €915. Born 1st June, trade overall good for bulls but numbers were small, didn’t see the heifers. Happy out.

Hard Knocks

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Sold a black limx 350kgs €915. Born 1st June, trade overall good for bulls but numbers were small, didn’t see the heifers. Happy out.

What’s heavy bulls 500kg+ like?

Mac Taylor

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What’s heavy bulls 500kg+ like?

Can’t help, it would be rare to have them that weight in Gort on a Thursday and as it was I was in and out pretty quickly.

Albert Johnson

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What’s heavy bulls 500kg+ like?

€2-2.30 a kg for suckler types? Maybe the shipping outlet has improved the trade for forward bulls but it was fairly average until recently. The day of feeding bulls into weights unless exceptional quality types is over imo. There's no shortage of customers at the moment for goodish store bullocks at similar weights but bull's are a different kettle of fish

Hard Knocks

Albert Johnson wrote: »

€2-2.30 a kg for suckler types? Maybe the shipping outlet has improved the trade for forward bulls but it was fairly average until recently. The day of feeding bulls into weights unless exceptional quality types is over imo. There's no shortage of customers at the moment for goodish store bullocks at similar weights but bull's are a different kettle of fish

He’s almost 12 months, probably a bit old for squeezing now