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Never wrestle with pigs

bosallagh88 wrote: »

Are people finding that the quality of store and weanling on offer is getting gradually worse there seems to be a widening gap between the price of plain and good quality cattle is this because quality Cattle are getting scarce?

Definitely. Mate sold 10 340/360 kg chx out of lim cows bullocks last week. Sweet orange types for 1190 out of the yard. He was solid ate for them. Lads from all over the country looking for them.

Local mart manager even rang to see would he sell in the mart. He said that they can't get the nice ones anymore and he has a list as long as his arm looking for them. Quality will pay in the long run.

Hard Knocks

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Definitely. Mate sold 10 340/360 kg chx out of lim cows bullocks last week. Sweet orange types for 1190 out of the yard. He was solid ate for them. Lads from all over the country looking for them.

Local mart manager even rang to see would he sell in the mart. He said that they can't get the nice ones anymore and he has a list as long as his arm looking for them. Quality will pay in the long run.

I wonder is this the result due to the 5 star cows & high star bulls?

Never wrestle with pigs

Hard Knocks wrote: »

I wonder is this the result due to the 5 star cows & high star bulls?

With out a doubt. To many people with tunnel vision for replacement index over so many generations and wondering why they don't have a u grade animal anymore. Also lads are to scared to use good bulls with more than %4 CD. Any ch bull worth his salt is usually over %8 bar the odd one.

Hard Knocks

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

With out a doubt. Any ch bull worth his salt is usually over %8 bar the odd one.

When you mention in, heard lads talk about buying bulls, one said he wanted something around 5%, reply from another, that’s alright for a Limo, but anything less than 8 in a Charolais isn’t worth bringing home

furandfeather

Ya the father in law had one in castlerea today as well. A May 18 limo bull out of a charlaois heifer. 380 kgs and €1315. I couldn't get over it, now he was a nice beast but he wasn't a export calf in my head. He said good stock was mental money

charolais0153

Hard Knocks wrote: »

When you mention in, heard lads talk about buying bulls, one said he wanted something around 5%, reply from another, that’s alright for a Limo, but anything less than 8 in a Charolais isn’t worth bringing home

Lad near here bought a fine bull at a big sale for sub 2.5k because he was 12%. Similar bulls with lower percentages were making ~1k more

Hard Knocks

charolais0153 wrote: »

Lad near here bought a fine bull at a big sale for sub 2.5k because he was 12%. Similar bulls with lower percentages were making ~1k more

Agree
Don’t forget it’s the bulls fault, even if the cow was too well fed
You have to match the bull to the cow

patsy_mccabe

The problem with a 12% calving bull is, you wont know how he really is till you test him. He could be fine, but then again you might be banging your head off the wall next spring. All your cows would want to be good calvers.

Never wrestle with pigs

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The problem with a 12% calving bull is, you wont know how he really is till you test him. He could be fine, but then again you might be banging your head off the wall next spring. All your cows would want to be good calvers.

Big problem now is the cow quality and calving ability is getting worse and it's the bull that will get the blame and hit on stars and breeders pockets.

grange mac

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Definitely. Mate sold 10 340/360 kg chx out of lim cows bullocks last week. Sweet orange types for 1190 out of the yard. He was solid ate for them. Lads from all over the country looking for them.

Local mart manager even rang to see would he sell in the mart. He said that they can't get the nice ones anymore and he has a list as long as his arm looking for them. Quality will pay in the long run.

Lads deserve fair prices for them, but it baffles me how money can be made by the farmer who makes them into bullocks and then keeps them for 2 winters.So I am assuming they will go as 16month bulls as at current factory prices they will hemorrhage money on them in 2*years time.

charolais0153

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Agree
Don’t forget it’s the bulls fault, even if the cow was too well fed
You have to match the bull to the cow

Less is more in this sense. Guilty of it too here.

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Big problem now is the cow quality and calving ability is getting worse and it's the bull that will get the blame and hit on stars and breeders pockets.

Limx fr cow here and i couldnt believe the room inside her for a young cow. It would take a huge calf to get caught at the hips

A lot better calving ability than the u-grade cows for example.

tanko

Hard Knocks wrote: »

When you mention in, heard lads talk about buying bulls, one said he wanted something around 5%, reply from another, that’s alright for a Limo, but anything less than 8 in a Charolais isn’t worth bringing home

So Fiston wouldn't be worth bringing home???

mahoney_j

Anyone see any angus heifers been sold lately have some March/April 18 around 270/80 kg thinking of offloading next week nice stock (out of hol fr )nothing exceptional on grass and meal all winter so nice shine off them I’m thinking 550/600 ???

visatorro

mahoney_j wrote: »

Anyone see any angus heifers been sold lately have some March/April 18 around 270/80 kg thinking of offloading next week nice stock (out of hol fr )nothing exceptional on grass and meal all winter so nice shine off them I’m thinking 550/600 ???

Would be a good price for them I think.

Who2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The problem with a 12% calving bull is, you wont know how he really is till you test him. He could be fine, but then again you might be banging your head off the wall next spring. All your cows would want to be good calvers.

Not necessarily, I bought one 12% and no hassle and the current bull is 13% and while I needed the jack a few times there was no real hardship. I was calving all at 2 yrs for a good while but have changed that but there’s still a lot of small cows.

memorystick

mahoney_j wrote: »

Anyone see any angus heifers been sold lately have some March/April 18 around 270/80 kg thinking of offloading next week nice stock (out of hol fr )nothing exceptional on grass and meal all winter so nice shine off them I’m thinking 550/600 ???

Too much for them. I bought 320 kg fr bullocks that are freshly squeezed for 520. Last years AA heifers are only averaging €1020.

Bass Reeves

memorystick wrote: »

Too much for them. I bought 320 kg fr bullocks that are freshly squeezed for 520. Last years AA heifers are only averaging €1020.

If you can get Fr bullocks of that weight for that price FAA and HE heifers 40-50kgs lighter are hardly worth the same money.

arctic8dave

mahoney_j wrote: »

Anyone see any angus heifers been sold lately have some March/April 18 around 270/80 kg thinking of offloading next week nice stock (out of hol fr )nothing exceptional on grass and meal all winter so nice shine off them I’m thinking 550/600 ???

Had a few Angus heifer feb/March 18 in macroom yesterday one lot 332kgs €655 and second lot 340kgs €680. All of them plain though.

memorystick

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you can get Fr bullocks of that weight for that price FAA and HE heifers 40-50kgs lighter are hardly worth the same money.

Which is better?

Fine Day

arctic8dave wrote: »

Had a few Angus heifer feb/March 18 in macroom yesterday one lot 332kgs €655 and second lot 340kgs €680. All of them plain though.

Thats a good bit more from what I have heard from guys that were at the mart last week.. Just about €2 per kg. Had you been giving them a few kgs of meal. I am planning on selling a few 2 year old angus heifers in the next few weeks. Got no meal but my silage was very good. Hope they can hit the thousand, as there are in good order. They be in or around the 500 to 530 kg mark I would think.

Bass Reeves

arctic8dave wrote: »

Had a few Angus heifer feb/March 18 in macroom yesterday one lot 332kgs €655 and second lot 340kgs €680. All of them plain though.

Those A heifers should not need to be housed next Autumn. they are also gaininf weight. Let them put on 200kgs between here and November. The be fit to kill at 260kgs+.

memorystick wrote: »

Which is better?

Depends on your system winter finishing or next summer off grass. The Fr will definately win if going to be slaughtered off grass next June/July. You would lose less killing the AA oyt of the shed next winter:)

farming93

Belgian blue bull 560 kg at 14 months 1100 euro for him . I was happy with that as prices were generally poor on the day

Danzy

Dept vet called and said there were lesions in a killed heifer, so locked up now, hoping it is timber tongue but..

They were tested 5 weeks ago.

Was hoping to get a bunch of poly heifers for killing later end of year.

The way the cookie crumbles.

Albert Johnson

farming93 wrote: »

Belgian blue bull 560 kg at 14 months 1100 euro for him . I was happy with that as prices were generally poor on the day

I think that due to the issues with bull beef in recent times that the day of carrying weanlings through to such weights is largely over. It seems that the further over 350kgs a weanling goes the closer to €2 a kg the price comes. For example I've seen bulls at 300kg make over €850 and others at 500kg struggle to cross €1000, 200kg heavier for €200 more. I only did ordinary maths in school but even I can see the economics of that, imo there's one time to sell a weanling and that's straight off the cow at circa 300kg. If you feed him into much more you would need to hang him up to see the benefit.

arctic8dave

Theheff wrote: »

Thats a good bit more from what I have heard from guys that were at the mart last week.. Just about €2 per kg. Had you been giving them a few kgs of meal. I am planning on selling a few 2 year old angus heifers in the next few weeks. Got no meal but my silage was very good. Hope they can hit the thousand, as there are in good order. They be in or around the 500 to 530 kg mark I would think.

Roughly got 2.5kgs a day since weaning. Went out to grass last June and when I mean grass a paddock with a ring feeder with good hay for about 3 months because of drought . Had about 3 months of grass from sept to nov really and we were short of silage so again more meal.

mahoney_j

mahoney_j wrote: »

Anyone see any angus heifers been sold lately have some March/April 18 around 270/80 kg thinking of offloading next week nice stock (out of hol fr )nothing exceptional on grass and meal all winter so nice shine off them I’m thinking 550/600 ???

270 kg 595 euro happy with that

Panch18

mahoney_j wrote: »

270 kg 595 euro happy with that

You did alright there

I bought bullocks 275kg for 540 and 560 a couple of weeks ago

whelan2

Panch18 wrote: »

You did alright there

I bought bullocks 275kg for 540 and 560 a couple of weeks ago

Was in mart there, frx je bulls 12 months old 240kg €240. The seller wouldn't have made much out of them. Not really je looking either

whelan2

How come lads do be falling over themselves to bid on lunatic cattle. Was a lim bullock tried jumping the ring a few times and then went out the small drovers gate. Took a while to get him back. Think he was around 460kg made 1200 euro. Also was 2 massive 3 year old bullocks 664 kg no bids at 700 euro...