Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

CiDeRmAn

Myrddin wrote: »

Might the fact that the game has a highlighted 'X' in the name, suggest Ninty are going with NX as a consumer name? The Nintendo NX....sounds great

They should just let one of the vendors on Aliexpress name it,
The Nintendo Super Dendy!

If they go with NX you'll inevitably get buyers avoiding it, because they didn't buy the NVIII or the NIX....

druss

Speculation that the Pokemon launch means that either NX isn't launching in 2016 or that it will integrate with 3DS instead.

Please Nintendo, give me some Direct-ion (and maybe a reason to buy a new 3DS).

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The Nintendo Super Dendy!

druss wrote: »

Speculation that the Pokemon launch means that either NX isn't launching in 2016 or that it will integrate with 3DS instead.

Please Nintendo, give me some Direct-ion (and maybe a reason to buy a new 3DS).

The 3DS as a pair-able controller would make a ton of sense.

MilesMorales1

Well that leak that said Pokemon Niji was a thing also said NX is this year, and he's been proven right on one thing.

CastorTroy

Myrddin wrote: »

Might the fact that the game has a highlighted 'X' in the name, suggest Ninty are going with NX as a consumer name? The Nintendo NX....sounds great

People claimed customers were confused by the Wii U name thinking it was just a Wii add-on. Now they'd be confused thinking of a Nintendo Xbox.

Ol' Donie

Wii3? Can we not call it Wii3?

*legs it*

CastorTroy

Ah, the good old WiB. The name that leads to the "Mario is Missing" sequel "Where is Bowser"

CiDeRmAn

Gamecube 2?
UltraNes?

Star Lord

Compu-Global-Hyper-Mega-Nes?

Ol' Donie

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Gamecube 2?

*grabs credit card*

MilesMorales1

I think Nintendo gets sick enjoyment out of watching endless internet speculation and longing for info. I imagine them sitting, with some big red button, that could immediately release all the info we want about the NX, sitting besides them, and they get pleasure from not pushing it.

Kylo Ren

The Super Nintendo Chalmers.

CiDeRmAn

Pendreds Fists of Fury wrote: »

The Super Nintendo Chalmers.

We have a winner, close thread!

Star Lord

Multiple sites reporting lots of new NX rumours... Primarily:

Wireless HDMI dongle
Power around the same as an Xbox One
Haptic feedback on the sticks (example given its that they'd push back if your character runs into a wall)
supposedly extremely to port to, almost coy and paste type levels of ease
New 'NintendOS' operating system has very modern features
Bluetooth connectivity that works with 'everything', so you *could* have text messages from your phone etc indicated on screen (wouldn't fancy that myself, but it's a nice idea)

Source: http://dualpixels.com/2016/02/27/rumor-new-information-on-next-gen-nintendo-nx-console/

Of course these are rumours, so take what you will from them, but seems to be coming from a pretty accurate source of previous leaks, including the recent Pokemon one pokemon X/Y one

CiDeRmAn

Not to be a pain but... Just XB1 levels of power? When it is 2 years on from that machines launch?
Does that suggest this was a rushed device?

Star Lord

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Not to be a pain but... Just XB1 levels of power? When it is 2 years on from that machines launch?
Does that suggest this was a rushed device?

I wouldn't imagine so, just a Nintendo trying to ensure they have parity, and to be able to launch at a lower price.

Myrddin

Star Lord wrote: »

Bluetooth connectivity that works with 'everything', so you *could* have text messages from your phone etc indicated on screen (wouldn't fancy that myself, but it's a nice idea)

NX 'cracked' in 3...2...1...:D

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Not to be a pain but... Just XB1 levels of power? When it is 2 years on from that machines launch?
Does that suggest this was a rushed device?

Is there a need to be more powerful than the competition though, in this world of ports & multi platform games? Unfortunately, parity seems here to stay, and any additional power the NX might have had would likely have been wasted, and an additional expense to the consumer.

CiDeRmAn

Yeah, reading the rumour again suggests that this machine will have zero barriers to porting the multi plat titles with no compromises, and will retain enough essence of Ninty to make it another potential source of great games like Splatoon and 3D World.
Looking forward now to seeing the price and launch titles, aren't we all?

Star Lord

Call of Fifa's Creed: Madden Edition anyone?

CiDeRmAn

You can only see a quarter of the pitch until your assassin climbs the lighting tower in the corner to switch it on and illuminate that portion.

druss

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You can only see a quarter of the pitch until your assassin climbs the lighting tower in the corner to switch it on and illuminate that portion.

You can get around that with your Cristiano-Ronaldo-Assassin amiibo.

Star Lord

It is also the only way to unlock the Madrid missions...

CiDeRmAn

I just had the most peculiar notion...
If they are going to produce a traditional form controller this time, for the NX, and are also intent on making it compatible with most smart devices, second screen/smart glass type functions, it's not too extraordinary to say that, in order to get WiiU compatibility, a tablet/phone screen as more than enough power and resolution to take the place of a Gamepad screen, with button command remaining on the controller.
It would work a treat, be cheap for those owning a smart phone of any hue, just install the NX app, pair them up and off you go.
No need to buy a console with an expensive controller, and easy to run Pikmin, Mario Maker or ZombiU from controller and touch screen.
What do you guys and gals think?

Ol' Donie

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I just had the most peculiar notion...
If they are going to produce a traditional form controller this time, for the NX, and are also intent on making it compatible with most smart devices, second screen/smart glass type functions, it's not too extraordinary to say that, in order to get WiiU compatibility, a tablet/phone screen as more than enough power and resolution to take the place of a Gamepad screen, with button command remaining on the controller.
It would work a treat, be cheap for those owning a smart phone of any hue, just install the NX app, pair them up and off you go.
No need to buy a console with an expensive controller, and easy to run Pikmin, Mario Maker or ZombiU from controller and touch screen.
What do you guys and gals think?

Hmm.

Tell me more about Pikmin.

iamtony

Myrddin wrote: »

NX 'cracked' in 3...2...1...:D



Is there a need to be more powerful than the competition though, in this world of ports & multi platform games? Unfortunately, parity seems here to stay, and any additional power the NX might have had would likely have been wasted, and an additional expense to the consumer.

Yes I think it needs to be more powerful if they want to get the hardcore crowd to take notice. If it's only on par with the Xbox and is running the same games people aren't going to be interested, that is if its not going to have any amazing unique features.
If Nintendo are going to bow down and build it like a standard machine the only thing that would make the traditional gamer convert is if it has better graphics and can do 4k and 60 fps or something like that. Most of these games are already built with the best PC's in mind so I don't think the power would be wasted, in fact I think developers would apriciate it.
The smart glass feature would be great but I don't think it would be good for touch screen games like pikmin personally, its too fiddly compared to having the screen on the controller.
If they are really building a generic console it would be great if they struck a deal with steam and had that App installed.....

Myrddin

iamtony wrote: »

Yes I think it needs to be more powerful if they want to get the hardcore crowd to take notice. If it's only on par with the Xbox and is running the same games people aren't going to be interested, that is if its not going to have any amazing unique features.
If Nintendo are going to bow down and build it like a standard machine the only thing that would make the traditional gamer convert is if it has better graphics and can do 4k and 60 fps or something like that.

More power = more cost to the consumer, and given developers appear not to want to advantage any system over another, there's no valid reason to have additional power in a console really (speaking firmly about 3rd party content here). The only reason to have additional power, is for OS features, peripheral support, and so forth. An Xbox One with twice the processing speed & twice the ram of a PS4 will still play COD15 almost exactly the same as the PS4, but would cost multitudes more to buy.

Most of these games are already built with the best PC's in mind so I don't think the power would be wasted, in fact I think developers would apriciate it.

Huh? Developers want parity, look at the mess that was the pc port of Watchdogs for proof. Neutered beyond belief, so it wouldn't show up the console versions. Developers would seem to prefer their games look the same on all platforms, so sales aren't affected.

I think they need to build another safe, generic console, that can boast a cracking line up of first, second, & third party games. No gimmicks, no hands in the air controllers, just a powerful console, a great joypad, great games...and they can begin to mend their reputation within the 'hardcore' demographic. Looking at the rumours, they seem to be building portability, and connectivity into the NX as a prime feature...this would be a great start anyway.

CiDeRmAn

Given the clusterfup that Batman Arkham Knight was on PC, parity can take a running jump. Far better to have a simple baseline of components and performance that devs can work to, making porting a breeze but, hopefully, maintaining enough quirks to keep Nintendo Nintendo!

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Given the clusterfup that Batman Arkham Knight was on PC, parity can take a running jump. Far better to have a simple baseline of components and performance that devs can work to, making porting a breeze

Is that not a bit contradictory Cidey? You're saying parity between platforms can take a jump, but then saying it's better to have a shared baseline between platforms so they can be easily ported?

For me, parity can indeed take a hike. Why should the more powerful platform receive watered down product, just so the weaker platforms can save face? It seems unfair. I get that the PC doesn't really represent great value in terms of developing for, not in comparison to the consoles anyway, so I guess that's the real reason. It probably boils down to piracy on the pc, why bother pumping resources into a game that's gonna be minced by pirates...when you can just develop for consoles, rake in the cash, & give the PC a ported version of the console game.

iamtony

Myrddin wrote: »

More power = more cost to the consumer, and given developers appear not to want to advantage any system over another, there's no valid reason to have additional power in a console really (speaking firmly about 3rd party content here). The only reason to have additional power, is for OS features, peripheral support, and so forth. An Xbox One with twice the processing speed & twice the ram of a PS4 will still play COD15 almost exactly the same as the PS4, but would cost multitudes more to buy.



Huh? Developers want parity, look at the mess that was the pc port of Watchdogs for proof. Neutered beyond belief, so it wouldn't show up the console versions. Developers would seem to prefer their games look the same on all platforms, so sales aren't affected.

I think they need to build another safe, generic console, that can boast a cracking line up of first, second, & third party games. No gimmicks, no hands in the air controllers, just a powerful console, a great joypad, great games...and they can begin to mend their reputation within the 'hardcore' demographic. Looking at the rumours, they seem to be building portability, and connectivity into the NX as a prime feature...this would be a great start anyway.

I just think they should have an edge, not a massive edge, it played its part in the Xbox/ps4 war, I'm sure many people heard the ps4 had more power and decided to buy it over the Xbox one.
Surely they can use better components and keep it at the same price as a Xbox one considering the bits in those machines are a few years old now.
I've seen many YouTube vids with millions of hits comparing graphics on all consoles so maybe the developers aren't interested but surely the gaming community is. You or I may not care but a lot do especially the 'hardcore' crowd who are generally aged 10-25 and if this is the market they are chasing then they need to have an edge.
I agree the portability and connectivity is a great start and a standard controller with haptic feedback would be great also, oh and reintroduce pressure sensitive L2/R2 for starters.

Myrddin

iamtony wrote: »

I just think they should have an edge, not a massive edge, it played its part in the Xbox/ps4 war, I'm sure many people heard the ps4 had more power and decided to buy it over the Xbox one.

The PS4 as far as I know has sold more to date, but there's little between them in reality. Ok there's some titles that have 1080p instead of 720p, or maybe 60fps instead of 30fps...but then the Xbox now has other significant selling points that put it ahead of the PS4 for many (backwards compatibility with Xbox 360 digital AND physical titles, whereas the PS4 can only do that with PS2 games, AND requires you to buy them again). For me, there's much of a muchness between them...and for all the 'more power' argument, for me, it's largely moot. They play 95% the same games, in 95% the same way.

Surely they can use better components and keep it at the same price as a Xbox one considering the bits in those machines are a few years old now.
I've seen many YouTube vids with millions of hits comparing graphics on all consoles so maybe the developers aren't interested but surely the gaming community is. You or I may not care but a lot do especially the 'hardcore' crowd who are generally aged 10-25 and if this is the market they are chasing then they need to have an edge.

I just see parity now determining console design and specifications. It's why we haven't seen much realistic differences between consoles for several generations now, it's safer to put something similar to the competition out there, because 3rd party sales are a huge driving force in determining success or not (see Wii U for example). Developers don't want one platform putting the others to shame, because instantly they're potentially losing out on millions of sales. Developers want games to look roughly the same across all platforms, that way, brand loyalty is the determining factor in sales...and loyalty is evenly spread, meaning even sales.

You're right in that components are cheaper now, but I feel Ninty rather than making the console cheaper, will simply use any additional resources for OS features and the like. I honestly can't see them reaching for the stars with the NX, there's no point in this world of multiplatform games and third party developers. Look at the PC, it blows consoles away in terms or pure power...but developers are deliberately neutering games on that, to protect sales on consoles. The NX would be no different. I do think though the way they're going, from what the rumours suggest, is the right way to go though - it'll return them to a position of credibility amongst the 'hardcore' consumers, rather than a perception of them being a 'system for kids'. They can build from there.