The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

jack presley

Raoul wrote: »

Really? So you wouldn't have a soft spot for them or want them to win when they weren't playing your team?

I find that hard to believe.

Would you go to the games and just sit there totally neutral if it was Dublin v the LA Rams?

There are teams I like to see better than others of course but I couldn't say whether I'd pick one just because they're based in Dublin. They might have an annoying coach or have Rob Ryan on their staff and things like that would have more of an influence on me over where they call home.

Where there's a game on (in any sport) where my team isn't playing, my gut usually lets me know early on who in rooting for.

Raoul

jack presley wrote: »

There are teams I like to see better than others of course but I couldn't say whether I'd pick one just because they're based in Dublin. They might have an annoying coach or have Rob Ryan on their staff and things like that would have more of an influence on me over where they call home.

Where there's a game on (in any sport) where my team isn't playing, my gut usually lets me know early on who in rooting for.

:D

Yeah fair enough, so you would prob support Dublin too :pac:

JaMarcusHustle

NotYourYear20 wrote: »

:rolleyes: It's rare you'll come across a post beyond the realms of stupidity, but that's one.

Welcome to an internet blog, where Grown Ups will often share similar viewpoints & opinions on a subject.

And some in particular share a lot more than viewpoints and opinions.

KrustyUCC

I hope the Rams will bring back their white ones from the 60s

Always like the look of them

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Billy86 wrote: »

It's possible, but someone would likely need to enter the league very young and his the ground running - the big numbers can be matched, but in tandem with longevity it is a major ask, especially factoring chances of injuries.

Essentially they would need to average about 1,400 yards a season for a 12 years, at which point they would be 33 on 16,800 yards. Then they would need to average 1,100 yards all the way up to age 37 to have them on 20,000 yards. Then they would need to stick around for the remaining 3,000 yards which would likely take them into their 40s.

This is in an ideal situation too, as Julio's 93.1 yds/game is 1,440 a year (if he were never, ever injured, though he has missed 15 games with injury already in his career). Including injuries he averages 1,210 a season. In other words would need to keep up that pace until he is 39 to beat out Rice.

By contrast, while Rice has less yards per game than Julio in his first 12 years (87.2) he missed zero games and so had a higher yards per season average (1,365).

All records are there to be broken (I remember Kevin & Nick way back on Sky jokingly saying "only 120 to go!" for Marino's record after Favre's 300th TD for example, as if it would never happen) but Rice's is almost certain to be among the very, very hardest.



Amazing that apart from 1997 where he missed almost the full year, Rice never missed a single game in his whole career, to the point that he played 17 games in his last year! :pac (iirc, the Raiders traded him to Seattle on a Sunday night/Monday, and he played for them within 24 hours for two games in one week... could be wrong there but it rings a vague bell for me).

That's fair enough Billy I'm not saying it's not going to be one of the hardest to break but it will eventually be broken. Also Julio is likely to average somewhere between 1600-1800 for the next 5 years if he stays fit. In fact I think Julio will go for over 2,000 receiving yards in a season. (Yes I am a fan of the beast)

Rice was a freak, to play to the age he played, sure it wasn't that long ago they showed him working out and many pondered whether he could still probably play in the league, mostly fantasy but he certainly could still catch.

Billy86

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

That's fair enough Billy I'm not saying it's not going to be one of the hardest to break but it will eventually be broken. Also Julio is likely to average somewhere between 1600-1800 for the next 5 years if he stays fit. In fact I think Julio will go for over 2,000 receiving yards in a season. (Yes I am a fan of the beast)

Rice was a freak, to play to the age he played, sure it wasn't that long ago they showed him working out and many pondered whether he could still probably play in the league, mostly fantasy but he certainly could still catch.

Julio is absolutely incredible, don't get me wrong (I'm a bit more of a Antonio Brown fan though - love the 'smarts' type of players over the athletic freaks, personally) but he has also played all 16 games in 2 of his 5 seasons (though he played 15 in another one).

On top of that, averaging 1,800 a year is bordering on unrealistic, imo as it has only been done 5 times in league history - that would be like predicting a QB to average 5,000 yards a year. I doubt any WR has averaged even particularly close to 1,500 a year over a five year period - never mind 1,800. My guess is Antonio Brown 2013-15 has the highest three year average in league history and that's at 1,610 - nearly 200 yards lower.

But let's say he stays fit for every game, and let's say he does average 1,800 a year. He would need to do that for NINE straight seasons (up until the age of 35) and then have another 800-odd yard season on top of that in order to break Rice's yardage record. If he only did it for the next 5 years, he would then need to average 1,000 yard seasons into his early/mid 40s.

*Averaging 1,600 a year, he would need to do that for 10 years rather than 9 at 1,800/yr, with another 1,000 odd yards thereafter.

And he would still come up extremely short on TDs, which he would need to average 17 of a season(!) for a full decade to beat out Rice... he currently averages 6.8/yr.

For Rice's numbers to be as far ahead of the game as they still are, over a decade after he retired, having only played one (well past his prime) season in the post 2004 rule change era, is simply absurd.



None of this is intended as a slight on Jones who is a remarkable talent, and I'm typing it up during some quiet time in work so apologies is the wording comes over abrasive (just don't have time to read back over) because it's not meant to. But I just don't see any active player getting within 3,000 of Rice's yardage record (at best). In terms of TDs the only player I can see with a sniff of a chance is Gronk - though he would need to keep up his current pace for another 12 years, to the age of 38, without Brady for the last 10 or so of them, and even then would need 2 more TDs to tie him.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Billy86 wrote: »

Julio is absolutely incredible, don't get me wrong (I'm a bit more of a Antonio Brown fan though - love the 'smarts' type of players over the athletic freaks, personally) but he has also played all 16 games in 2 of his 5 seasons (though he played 15 in another one).

On top of that, averaging 1,800 a year is bordering on unrealistic, imo as it has only been done 5 times in league history - that would be like predicting a QB to average 5,000 yards a year. I doubt any WR has averaged even particularly close to 1,500 a year over a five year period - never mind 1,800. My guess is Antonio Brown 2013-15 has the highest three year average in league history and that's at 1,610 - nearly 200 yards lower.

But let's say he stays fit for every game, and let's say he does average 1,800 a year. He would need to do that for NINE straight seasons (up until the age of 35) and then have another 800-odd yard season on top of that in order to break Rice's yardage record. If he only did it for the next 5 years, he would then need to average 1,000 yard seasons into his early/mid 40s.

*Averaging 1,600 a year, he would need to do that for 10 years rather than 9 at 1,800/yr, with another 1,000 odd yards thereafter.

And he would still come up extremely short on TDs, which he would need to average 17 of a season(!) for a full decade to beat out Rice... he currently averages 6.8/yr.

For Rice's numbers to be as far ahead of the game as they still are, over a decade after he retired, having only played one (well past his prime) season in the post 2004 rule change era, is simply absurd.



None of this is intended as a slight on Jones who is a remarkable talent, and I'm typing it up during some quiet time in work so apologies is the wording comes over abrasive (just don't have time to read back over) because it's not meant to. But I just don't see any active player getting within 3,000 of Rice's yardage record (at best). In terms of TDs the only player I can see with a sniff of a chance is Gronk - though he would need to keep up his current pace for another 12 years, to the age of 38, without Brady for the last 10 or so of them, and even then would need 2 more TDs to tie him.

when you put it all down on Paper Rice really was a freak of nature wasn't he!

gstack166

Can anyone recommend some apps to have on on iTunes? I have espn & NFL official app, just wondering is there anymore good ones out there or the more popular ones in America?

baby and crumble

gstack166 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend some apps to have on on iTunes? I have espn & NFL official app, just wondering is there anymore good ones out there or the more popular ones in America?

I really like Bleacher Report. You can customise the feeds to your teams and interests. Like, I have Packers, NFL News, NFL Rumours, Fantasy, Draft selected on mine. Good mix of basic updates and more in-depth articles on certain topics. Also has loads of other sports you can select feeds for, like Rugby, tennis, soccer, NHL etc.

jack presley

baby and crumble wrote: »

I really like Bleacher Report. You can customise the feeds to your teams and interests. Like, I have Packers, NFL News, NFL Rumours, Fantasy, Draft selected on mine. Good mix of basic updates and more in-depth articles on certain topics. Also has loads of other sports you can select feeds for, like Rugby, tennis, soccer, NHL etc.

I despise their website. It's so annoying that they spread their stories over so many pages. I suppose the purpose is to get clicks so by listing the '10 best' whatevers over 10 pages as opposed to just one, it achieves that purpose but it's why I ignore that site now. Don't know what the app is like though.

baby and crumble

jack presley wrote: »

I despise their website. It's so annoying that they spread their stories over so many pages. I suppose the purpose is to get clicks so by listing the '10 best' whatevers over 10 pages as opposed to just one, it achieves that purpose but it's why I ignore that site now. Don't know what the app is like though.

I don't like the website either and actually the app on ipad is a bit annoying but I do find it great on my phone

Shedite27

MMQB is the best NFL site IMO

jack presley

Shedite27 wrote: »

MMQB is the best NFL site IMO

Yeah, that's pretty good alright. Decent enough podcast too.

NotYourYear20

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

And some in particular share a lot more than viewpoints and opinions.

From what I hear, you'd know all about that over in the Soccer forum.

JaMarcusHustle

NotYourYear20 wrote: »

From what I hear, you'd know all about that over in the Soccer forum.

See I'm more than happy for anyone to run IP checks or whatever is necessary to prove that I only have 1 account. I'm up front with my opinions - even when I make a tit of myself which frequently happens. I don't feel the need - nor do I have the time - to create up to 9 alternate accounts to boost my own Thanks Count or to bully others.

You should have made an accusation that I had alternate accounts in here, a forum I actually use, instead of the soccer forum where I've posted what, 20 times in the last 4 months? Or maybe the NotYourYear20 account is the one that makes foolish claims. Should I expect better from TomBTheGoat? Herpes Cineplex? How about AreYouWell?

Unlike you, I do my research

JCTO

NotYourYear20

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

See I'm more than happy for anyone to run IP checks or whatever is necessary to prove that I only have 1 account.

This from someone who's pretty handy in dispenseing advice about getting around game blackouts & gamepass. In the era of VPN's and IP masking, your offer is completely meaningless and as about as useful as a bucket of steam.

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

You should have made an accusation that I had alternate accounts in here, a forum I actually use, instead of the soccer forum where I've posted what, 20 times in the last 4 months?

Probably because you've been too busy posting with your other accounts.

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Should I expect better from TomBTheGoat? Herpes Cineplex? How about AreYouWell?

Unlike you, I do my research

Research? Where? In the psych unit?

helimachoptor

enough for the moment chaps

helimachoptor

Lets keep it calm folks, things are in hand

HigginsJ

Shedite27 wrote: »

MMQB is the best NFL site IMO

Absolutely agree wit this. In relation to Bleacher Report I do like some of the writers on there, Mike Freeman in particular is good and they will have lots of pre Ðraft stuff.

Hulk Hands

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

You should have made an accusation that I had alternate accounts in here, a forum I actually use, instead of the soccer forum where I've posted what, 20 times in the last 4 months? Or maybe the NotYourYear20 account is the one that makes foolish claims. Should I expect better from TomBTheGoat? Herpes Cineplex? How about AreYouWell?

The moment you realise the 101 page deflategate thread is 90% one lunatic talking to himself

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Hulk Hands wrote: »

The moment you realise the 101 page deflategate thread is 90% one lunatic talking to himself

Thanks Hulk Hands,

Had a really F$$%ed up morning, this has made me cry laughing. It's possibly not as funny as my reaction but man I needed that!

Feel fecking magic now! :D Happy Friday :D

adrian522

I'm hoping this is a case of bad punctuation and not a bad reaction to a coaching hire...

Billy86

My boss here in Toronto is a Bill season ticket holder, was just talking to him about the potential Toronto move from a while back. Here's something interesting - most fans from Toronto actually didn't want the Bills to move here at all! The reason is Buffalo is only a 2 hour drive away on a good road right along the Lake Ontario coast(?) line which is a really nice drive for the most part of the year... and ticket prices. The Toronto Maple Leafs are kind of like the Browns/Jags of the NHL, but even the worst tickets in the whole house, in a low profile game (and there are 82 games a season), costs $150+. He's got two season tickets (preseason included) right around the 45yd line at the very front of the second tier (view a bit like this, I would guess) for $1,100 US, so $1,600 CAD. By his reckoning if the Bills had moved to Toronto the bare, bare minimum would have been $4,000 CAD for those same two tickets.

Just a random bit of trivia to bring up, since I imagine most people thought Torontonians would have been distraught over not getting the Bills. I know that's what I had figured, at least.

He reckons there's a good chance the Packers are playing the Bills next preseason, and since he's not bothered with preseason he's offered me the tickets already if that game falls and I'm still here. Can't argue with that!

adrian522

Much as I hate preseason football, it's better than no football, but only just.

Realt Dearg Sec

adrian522 wrote: »

Much as I hate preseason football, it's better than no football, but only just.

I can think of better ways to spend a Sunday than praying for no injuries. Sundays aren't for praying.

Billy86

Can't complain if it's free and GB are playing, mind. Plus I get to see the glamorous megacity of Buffalo up close!

Hazys

Hulk Hands wrote: »

The moment you realise the 101 page deflategate thread is 90% one lunatic talking to himself

Hey, I'm just defending the wall!!

Itssoeasy

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/irate-fans-sue-rams-for-leaving-town/article_3e744a5e-6a84-5b6f-9bf4-103ec4f3aa35.html

It's a bit sad to see the pictures in this article about the rams. St Louis seem to be moving on fairly quickly.

helimachoptor

Mort has been diagnosed with stage 4 throat cancer, its spreading so its pretty serious