Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

duskyjoe

HTCOne wrote: »

A332s have been delayed on departure to SFO to offload cargo due runway length at DUB in summer 2016. So i'm assuming TOGA on new A333s has been increased significantly?

Some of the 332s don't have a BUMP option. It's an extra poke option that requires a tech log log entry.

Bussywussy

duskyjoe wrote: »

Some of the 332s don't have a BUMP option. It's an extra poke option that requires a tech log log entry.

Don't think any of the 200s have it..ha and log entries are few and far between even when it's used because they installed ACMS software to monitor it to report back if used.

HTCOne

steve-o wrote: »

The runway shrank after they loaded the cargo? That's worrying.

Nope, red caps aren't trained in single engine out take off requirements though.

duskyjoe

Bussywussy wrote: »

Don't think any of the 200s have it..ha and log entries are few and far between even when it's used because they installed ACMS software to monitor it to report back if used.

It's a mandatory tech log entry ......end of

Tenger

Less of the "who knows more about internal company policy's" please folks.
Lets keep it civil as we have a broad range of experience and interest amongst this community.
Some work in various company's and some used to work there, other just are avid hobbyists

TheFitz13

Anybody know where EI-CVB is??

starvin

TheFitz13 wrote: »

Anybody know where EI-CVB is??

Perpignan. Since the end of October.

TheFitz13

starvin wrote: »

Perpignan. Since the end of October.

Any idea when it's returning? Thanks for the reply!

Locker10a

How many short haul A/C are planned/needed for S17 schedule ?

starvin

TheFitz13 wrote: »

Any idea when it's returning? Thanks for the reply!

It was due back before Christmas, but still no sign of it.

Tenger

Locker10a wrote: »

How many short haul A/C are planned/needed for S17 schedule ?

Saw it posted somewhere from the CEO talk the other night that it was 37 in total. (might have been a pic of a powerpoint slide on facebook or twitter)
Also saw the cheesy looking "our starting 15 for Summer 2017" in relation to the longhaul fleet. Why does the CEO need to show the names of the aircraft? Seems like a bit of a filer slide?
I do really like the EI tradition of naming the aircraft, just dont see the place for it in a CEO briefing/speech.

HTCOne

Tenger wrote: »

Saw it posted somewhere from the CEO talk the other night that it was 37 in total. (might have been a pic of a powerpoint slide on facebook or twitter)
Also saw the cheesy looking "our starting 15 for Summer 2017" in relation to the longhaul fleet. Why does the CEO need to show the names of the aircraft? Seems like a bit of a filer slide?

Playing to the market I would think. The yanks love the whole "Irish" thing (Padraig, Caoimhe etc)

Pat Dunne

HTCOne wrote: »

Playing to the market I would think. The yanks love the whole "Irish" thing (Padraig, Caoimhe etc)

Most Irish people can't pronounce the name "Caoimhe" when reading the name, let alone the Yanks

Cravens

It seems like Aer Lingus have now secured a former Aeroflot frame (VQ-BAZ), it is noted as currently stored, so it is likely to ferry to a point where it can be refitted soon.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/3789/EI-Aer-Lingus

Locker10a

Cravens wrote: »

It seems like Aer Lingus have now secured a former Aeroflot frame (VQ-BAZ), it is noted as currently stored, so it is likely to ferry to a point where it can be refitted soon.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/3789/EI-Aer-Lingus

Will this just be a temp lease for the summer or longer term? If long term I assume they will get rid of those blue seats...!!!

Cravens

Oh yeah, I should venture it'll be a long-termer. They're having to change it from C20Y120 to the standard Y174 layout, so I think it'll come with the more standard EI seats and also be a long-term lease.

HTCOne

Locker10a wrote: »

Will this just be a temp lease for the summer or longer term? If long term I assume they will get rid of those blue seats...!!!

Who knows, there's still Little Red and Vueling seats on EI A320s

Locker10a

HTCOne wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

Will this just be a temp lease for the summer or longer term? If long term I assume they will get rid of those blue seats...!!!

Who knows, there's still Little Red and Vueling seats on EI A320s

Yeah that's what made me ask!! But those blue ones would look horrific.

kevinandrew

Tenger wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

How many short haul A/C are planned/needed for S17 schedule ?

Saw it posted somewhere from the CEO talk the other night that it was 37 in total. (might have been a pic of a powerpoint slide on facebook or twitter)
Also saw the cheesy looking "our starting 15 for Summer 2017" in relation to the longhaul fleet. Why does the CEO need to show the names of the aircraft? Seems like a bit of a filer slide?
I do really like the EI tradition of naming the aircraft, just dont see the place for it in a CEO briefing/speech.

It was a play on their Irish Rugby sponsorship, 15 starting aircraft, 15 starting players. The sponsorship has been pretty high profile and was a key factor in their strategy to refresh and modernise the brand without going through a costly and ultimately unnecessary rebranding. So far it's been quite successful for Aer Lingus so they're likely to plug it wherever they can, the slide was a quick and effective way to do that and show the expanded fleet at the same time.

kub

Cravens wrote:

It seems like Aer Lingus have now secured a former Aeroflot frame (VQ-BAZ), it is noted as currently stored, so it is likely to ferry to a point where it can be refitted soon.

Would I be correct in assuming that the cockpit dials and control labels are in Russian?
If so and they need to be changed out then surely the cabin will get the standard EI scheme and perhaps Wifi?

Bussywussy

Cravens wrote: »

It seems like Aer Lingus have now secured a former Aeroflot frame (VQ-BAZ), it is noted as currently stored, so it is likely to ferry to a point where it can be refitted soon.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/3789/EI-Aer-Lingus

Think there's 2 and under maintenance checks in slovakia

Locker10a

Bussywussy wrote: »

Cravens wrote: »

It seems like Aer Lingus have now secured a former Aeroflot frame (VQ-BAZ), it is noted as currently stored, so it is likely to ferry to a point where it can be refitted soon.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/3789/EI-Aer-Lingus

Think there's 2 and under maintenance checks in slovakia

Two more ? Or including this one ?

Locker10a

kub wrote: »

Cravens wrote:

It seems like Aer Lingus have now secured a former Aeroflot frame (VQ-BAZ), it is noted as currently stored, so it is likely to ferry to a point where it can be refitted soon.

Would I be correct in assuming that the cockpit dials and control labels are in Russian?
If so and they need to be changed out then surely the cabin will get the standard EI scheme and perhaps Wifi?

I believe Aeroflot use the standard airbus flight deck mean the controls should be labelled in English, so no real changes needed there.
As mentioned above the cabin will be changed over to the standard EI one, although what seats they will use is unknown. I very much doubt they will install wifi right now, I would imagine this will begin to happen as part of a much larger IAG wide plan

Bussywussy

Locker10a wrote: »

Two more ? Or including this one ?

Including

Tenger

kub wrote: »

Would I be correct in assuming that the cockpit dials and control labels are in Russian?....................?

Link above showed that it was leased from GECAS so cant see an international leasing company having Russian cockpit labels. As noted above I would expect standard English, maybe with Russian temp stickers over them to help the Aeroflot flight crews?

billy few mates

kub wrote: »

Would I be correct in assuming that the cockpit dials and control labels are in Russian?
If so and they need to be changed out then surely the cabin will get the standard EI scheme and perhaps Wifi?

You'd be incorrect, every aircraft that leaves the Airbus factory is 'in English' as are all the manuals and documents related to it. There are very few cockpit 'dials' in an Airbus, it's an EFIS /ECAM TFT flat screen display type system with electronically generated symbology rather than dials or indicators, even the standby indicators are electronic these days. As an ex Russian aircraft the only additional feature it might have is a metric altimeter.

Jamie2k9

From what I am hearing SH fleet is likely to be 38 (+1 on S-2016) but subject to change. With BHD ops changes it 2 more based out of DUB. Not sure it's fully confirmed but lots of time as it's really over peak (end of May-mid Sep) when they need it.

Bussywussy

billy few mates wrote: »

As an ex Russian aircraft the only additional feature it might have is a metric altimeter.

Which will be modded out along with the pin programming for the metric alt on the PFD.
If it's 2009 built it may or may not have the electronic standby instruments.

joeysoap

Why would Aeroflot 'store' a 2009 320? Quick glance at airfleets show they have much older 320's active. Could this be a 'troublesome' aircraft that was first on their list for getting rid of?

Locker10a

joeysoap wrote: »

Why would Aeroflot 'store' a 2009 320? Quick glance at airfleets show they have much older 320's active. Could this be a 'troublesome' aircraft that was first on their list for getting rid of?

Not necessarily, lease agreement costs ,payments and T&Cs are far more likely to end lease agreements like this. It's not uncommon to see airlines not renew lease contracts of newer aircraft due to cost etc. A 15 year old a320 will have a more favourable lease than a 5 year old one even though they have more or less the same day to day costs and fuel efficiency once major checks are out of the way.
Either EI or GECAS engineers I'm sure will fully review the condition of the aircraft before allowing it to enter service with its new owner.