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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    Indeed EI was the first after Air Inter

    So the second....?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,573 ✭✭✭kub


    So the second....?


    EI were the first to fly the 330 across the Atlantic


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Avada wrote: »
    .....I found the touchscreen unusable and ending up using the remote in the armrest.
    Oh the humanity!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    Tenger wrote: »
    Oh the humanity!!!

    Its minor, but when you're paying 500 quid plus for a service, things like that should work. The remote didnt exactly work 100% either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Same here. Touchscreen was a pain; remote better, but still laggy. Mind you at the price I pay, I don't complain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    Avada wrote: »
    Its minor, but when you're paying 500 quid plus for a service, things like that should work. The remote didnt exactly work 100% either.

    It's worth calling out that the IFE in use on Emirates shows what can be done. The Aer Lingus offering (and indeed most other airline offerings) is pretty miserable in comparison.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭duskyjoe


    Noxegon wrote: »
    It's worth calling out that the IFE in use on Emirates shows what can be done. The Aer Lingus offering (and indeed most other airline offerings) is pretty miserable in comparison.
    Try flying SAA. Appalling IFES. Flew LHR -J'Burg return......both sectors mine was bust. EIN are streets ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,974 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That would be a very costly exercise and would have little to do with vision. Aer Lingus has no requirement for second hand A330s, even if they are CFM powered, when they've already got brand new deliveries on the way this year. They'd be purchasing/leasing an aircraft simply for the sake of it.

    They are already talking about retaining an antique due to capacity needs. Availability is limiting expansion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    EI-LAX EI-EWR are known quantities ordered to EI spec, a bit younger than many of the 777 fleet BA have.

    There is a balance about lease cost, length, interior fit-out etc

    If you have 4 shinny new A330 being built unless its an emergency you ain't going to lease


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭duskyjoe


    L1011 wrote: »
    They are already talking about retaining an antique due to capacity needs. Availability is limiting expansion.

    Antique? That sounds to me that they are operating crates.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    Noxegon wrote: »
    It's worth calling out that the IFE in use on Emirates shows what can be done. The Aer Lingus offering (and indeed most other airline offerings) is pretty miserable in comparison.

    British Airways IFE is very good. Excellent choice and the screens are decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    British Airways IFE is very good. Excellent choice and the screens are decent.

    Depends on the aircraft,was on a 777 and screens were crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    Bussywussy wrote: »
    British Airways IFE is very good. Excellent choice and the screens are decent.

    Depends on the aircraft,was on a 777 and screens were crap.

    True, the older aircraft screens aren't great. 747 and 777 ones are small. I've mostly been on their 787 and A380 recently, so that's changed my memory :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    True, the older aircraft screens aren't great. 747 and 777 ones are small. I've mostly been on their 787 and A380 recently, so that's changed my memory :)

    also BA are having serious problems with the go-go Wi-Fi,they've a 747 aircraft done since December and can't get it working!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    Bussywussy wrote: »
    True, the older aircraft screens aren't great. 747 and 777 ones are small. I've mostly been on their 787 and A380 recently, so that's changed my memory :)

    also BA are having serious problems with the go-go Wi-Fi,they've a 747 aircraft done since December and can't get it working!

    Didn't know that. It has been a big gap in their offering for the past few years alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Didn't know that. It has been a big gap in their offering for the past few years alright.

    They should of went Panasonic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    Bussywussy wrote: »
    also BA are having serious problems with the go-go Wi-Fi,they've a 747 aircraft done since December and can't get it working!

    Yes, one B747-4 has Go-Go Wifi installed but not yet activated. Still awaiting EASA certification.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Has EI-EZV left the fleet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭A319er


    No both in fleet until March, low utilisation due winter season , pre lease return work, cleaning.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    A319er wrote: »
    No both in fleet until March, low utilisation due winter season , pre lease return work, cleaning.
    Thanks, has a second replacement been sourced addition to the Aeroflot one for march ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭A319er


    Yes is short answer , paperwork to be completed, but all in train.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Reservations for Porto have been closed online, looks like no extra A320 happening as it was needed based on recent schedule I did and OPO slots required it.

    Interesting to see how it plays out with another A320.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Reservations for Porto have been closed online, looks like no extra A320 happening as it was needed based on recent schedule I did and OPO slots required it.

    Interesting to see how it plays out with another A320.

    Could the partnership with Cityjet for the summer months have possible affected this? The wetlease of capacity in the form of an SSJ (rumoured) may mean they don't actually need an extra 320?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Could the partnership with Cityjet for the summer months have possible affected this? The wetlease of capacity in the form of an SSJ (rumoured) may mean they don't actually need an extra 320?

    Hard to say, if SSJ was happening why remove OPO from sale, have to see how it plays out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭zone 1


    so in real world what size fleet do AL really need long and short haul they always seem to be short of AC


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    zone 1 wrote: »
    so in real world what size fleet do AL really need long and short haul they always seem to be short of AC
    I don't think they are short as such (I may be wrong) I think it's that the market they serve is very seasonal and thus for a number of weeks in the summer they tend to take on extra capacity to provide for this demand. In pervious years they have short term leased extra aircraft and operated it themselves, on other occasions they have hired in other airlines to operate additional summer capacity for them.
    Based on the information from other posters on here, it seems unclear what or how this additional capacity will be delivered this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,847 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    zone 1 wrote: »
    so in real world what size fleet do AL really need long and short haul they always seem to be short of AC

    Not short of them just not growing the fleet because realistically they old need capacity for around 16 weeks and getting a deal for such a period and making a profit is where the problem lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭zone 1


    so in IAG books they are little commuter airline on the side compared to what they own....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    zone 1 wrote: »
    so in IAG books they are little commuter airline on the side compared to what they own....
    No not at all! What gives you that impression, in IAGs book they are the best performing airline, excelling at what they do, creating a mini hub at DUB and connecting the USA to their European destinations, and on the other hand serving the busier than ever Irish holiday market.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭zone 1


    no just wondering its just you here other airlines growing which means demand for more AC.. but AL purchased 2 A330 this year were new the A320 seems to be the real work horse of the fleet they seem to be geting old.. i no the 757 are 20plus years old ... russian a320 plane is new addition to fleet is 9 years old all ready..


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