Foynes Line

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944582#Comment_123944582

Are there 400 buses a day each way? That's roughly how many return journeys that would be needed to shuttle 10,000 people through the village from the temp station.

Although I'd question how many users the train will attract. There are going to be 20000 P&R spaces between the proposed temporary P&R facilities at Annacotty, Patrickswell and Croagh. I'd question how many people will actually go into Colbert to use the train when the P&Rs will be much easier to access and the shuttle buses using the M7, M20 and the bypass won't need to enter the village.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944718#Comment_123944718

Would 10,000 be expected to use the train ?

The people using Colbert I imagine would be the ones in the city already and the ones who can't drive to the park & ride. If people go there in enough numbers to sell out every train for a 45k match in Cork then why not this. The walk to PuC ain't quick either.

Won't happen anyway because the platform will never get built. That's what will kill it.

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944682#Comment_123944682

There's not a hope a temporary station made out of scaffolding would be allowed. This station is proposed to have 10000 daily users each way during the tournament. There will have to be welfare facilities, bus set down and parking areas, security facilities.

This is the type of setup proposed for the P&R. It's got an area for people to wait, toilets and a bus pickup/set down area as well as the car parks. It needs to go through Part 8 planning. IE don't have access to Part 8 so will need to submit an application to the council.

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944730#Comment_123944730

That's the figure John Moran quoted.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944749#Comment_123944749

Ah ok. I can't imagine it would be more than a couple of trains a day if it ever did happen. As I said big GAA match numbers whatever that figure would be.

pigtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944747#Comment_123944747

Where did you see this?

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944845#Comment_123944845

The P&Rs? The council published part 8 plans last week. One just off the Mackey Roundabout, one at Limerick Racecourse and three located around the new link road between the current N21 and the Adare bypass.

https://mypoint.limerick.ie/en/browse

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944582#Comment_123944582

Well if you know Adare you know that the railway stations is on the north of main thorough fare, and the mannor is on the south of it with the golf course south of that again straddling the river.

It's not like there is a motorway. At this stage any temporary station will have to be completely outside Adare. Probably nearer Patrickwell than Adare.The shuttle buses will have to compete with Park and Ride buses for access to the golf course.

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944076#Comment_123944076

Whatever about the chances of getting planning approval (including overcoming any subsequent legal challenges) for a station at Adare, a station at Foynes would be even more difficult. Having hundreds of people wander through an active port from waters edge to the rail line would be a health and safety nightmare.

Do IÉ even own the buildings adjoining the rail line? Is there any indication of how they would be able to handle loading and unloading at Foynes to be able to use the line they are currently spending the guts of €200m on?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944988#Comment_123944988

Well "closer to Patrickswell" is just you taking guesses that suit your opposition.

Why should shuttle buses from a train station not be allowed compete with shuttle buses from a car park. It's going to take the exact same amount of buses in the end so no train station means more shuttle buses from the car park.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123944747#Comment_123944747

That's a fine set up compared to some of the dumps I was left waiting in for festival P&Rs over the years.

Economics101

Given the single line and few if any passing loops, and a reversal at Limerick Check, how many DMUs would you need for a 30-minute interval service to Adare, and how many passengers could realistically be carried in a day?

flyingsnail

Given its single line all the way out and back you would probably only be using one set unless you were crossing arrivals and departures at Limerick. Capacity would depend on how long of a train they would use, hell of a difference between a 2 piece and a 8 piece.

Of course not all services have to start and end in Limerick, if there was stock available you could add in direct services from Dublin and Cork.

I have never attended any golf events, is there a constant turn over during the day or is it mostly morning arrivals and evening departures?