Clare Daly TD

Muahahaha

A lot of posters on this thread denied the claim that the leaking of details of the arrest of Clare Daly was the work of the Gardai.I'll quote what you said:

blackwhite wrote: »

Nobody has condoned the leaking of her arrest to the media, but nobody (unless the inquiry comes back with a finding) has any evidence that it was members of the Gardai who leaked it.
Of course, those with an agenda to peddle will try to pretend otherwise, but most on here are able to see through the lies pretty quickly.

mynamejeff wrote: »

for the third time (without you responding ) ill point out that there was a doctor and possibly a solicitor present and well as possibly other persons who weren't gardai in the station who could have "leeked "

I think its fairly clear your paranoia with regard to political policing . In no way have wallace , daly or paul murphy been subject to political policing . They have all been arrested for committing offences that would have resulted in the arrest of any one else . in fact wallace has used political influence to get out of a public order arrest in 2002 when he was still a non tax paying developer.

If you are going to ignore the facts and contuine on with your ill informed bashing of anyone but you fav criminals indymedia is thata way

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blackwhite wrote: »

Loosely translated as........

It doesn't suit the agenda, so I'm going to ignore that there's a possibility that it might be what happened, and claim that my version of events is the only one even remotely possible.

Not a whole lot of point debating with anyone who lets their agenda and bias cloud everything

mynamejeff wrote: »

I think your laboring under some misconceptions with this whole thing.
1. that gardai would risk their jobs for a few quid from a journ, a garda can be fired and or jailed for speaking to the media in any way . (An garda siochana Act 2005)
2. the average garda doesnt care that much about whistle blowers because most of what they are highlighting relates to senior management not the garda on the street.
3, any solicitor may have been contacted not just her own.
4. the facilities for doctors are based on the caredoc system and not one single doctor. most of these doctors are non nationals and only get paid by the company they work for.
5.when wallace tried to allege that gardai werent cooperation with her complaint about the arrest he was proved to be telling lies to stoke up some media attention for daly. ever consider that she "leaked " the story her self for the attention ?

mynamejeff wrote: »

not really much point in trying to converse with someone who has made up his mind in advance.

in future you should look at the evidence and see what is proved and what isnt before you make you mind up.

it will save you from looking so silly in the future

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

See I know what the problem is. You are probably one of these people, like Daly and Ming, who thing their actions have sent shockwaves through the force and Gardaí do nothing but fume about penalty points and whistleblowers dreaming about the good old days. The fact is most Gardaí don't care. They weren't around for those days. Their feelings towards Daly border on the indifferent. The only effect these things have had on the vast amount Gardaí is extra paperwork and red tape. Gardaí don't sit around thinking about how great it would be to get Daly, they just laugh about her and Wallace making a fool of themselves, like with their recent claims, made under Dáil privilege of course.

There is just no motive for a Garda to leak her info. There is no gain that would be worth the risk. And it would be a risk because a leak that close to the event could only have come from a small number of Gardaí. Easily traceable.

mynamejeff wrote: »

tell you what ? lets see one shred of proof, evidence or even fact to back up dalys wild claims. about leaking information or murders by the gardai and ill think about reengaging with you on you blind crusade to glorify the militant left.
so far all she has done is shout across the dail floor and talk to journalists without producing the proof she claims to have.

So ye all screamed show us the proof. Well the truth is even worse than anyone could have thought. Gardai were using the Pulse system as a way of finding out idle gossip. And according to Alan Shatter no less than 150 Gardai accessed Clare Dalys record in the aftermath of her arrest.

Mr Shatter referenced an incident where a number of gardaí accessed the PULSE system in relation to the arrest of TD Clare Daly in 2013 for suspected drink-driving.

"What isn't generally publicly known is that I raised that issue with the garda authorities and I expressed concern as to how that came about", he told the Pat Kenny Show here on Newstalk.

"I was subsequently advised...that in excess of 150 members of the force had accessed the PULSE system - some of them seem to think it was some sort of social website that they could look up for gossip purposes".

"As I understand it...one of the investigations that GSOC have been engaged in that gave rise to controversy over the last ten days has arisen out of a complaint that Deputy Daly made as to how that information got into the public domain".

"And of course that was also, as I understand it, how some of the background circumstances relevant to the tragic death of a very well-known model, Katy French, also found their way into the public domain".

"My concern at the time was that in relation to reports on both those issues, they were more about prurient interest than public interest".

https://www.newstalk.com/PULSE-garda-computer-system-Garda-Siochana-Alan-Shatter-access-Clare-Daly-Katy-French

mynamejeff wrote: »

you seem to have no problem believing the gardai to be liar thief's and murders but doubt thy could make up a story for daly to get her name in the papers again for a day ?

still no proof of evidence surfacing by the way .......

Do those posters I quoted expect us to believe now that Gardai did not leak Clare Dalys arrest to the media? As can seen in the quotes above I got told I was deluded for even suggesting that it was the Gardai who leaked it. Everyone shouted for proof when faced with the elephant in the room. Now it turns out that no less than 150 Gardai were spying on her Pulse record so they could gossip about her down the pub. As I said further back up the thread the Gardai are literally the most leaky organisation in all of Ireland and this new evidence proves that assertion beyond any form of reasonable doubt.

I won't hold my breath for any hands up but I will grudgingly thank Alan Shatter who was honest enough to share this information. The truth always comes out in the end, much as some people (including people on here) don't want it to.

blackwhite

So still no proof then?

Garda abuse of the Pulse system has been reported time and again, not just in this instance. It's much more likely that these inappropriate Pulse queries happned AFTER the arrest was reported in the papers, and not before.

The most likely scenario is that someone who was present at the arrest or in the station that night is the one who was responsible for the leak.

That could have been a Garda present, it could have been a doctor, or it could have been some other person who was in the station that night (including Clare herself, looking to play the martyr - unlikely, but still possible).

Of course, only one of those possibilities suits your agenda so any other possibility must be shouted down immediately.

No point trying to ask a fanatic to apply logic or reason to their heroes after all.

Muahahaha

Oh so it wasn't one of the 150 Gardai who accessed Clare Dalys Pulse record, it must have been a member of the public who happened to be in the station :rolleyes:

Shatter has just let the cat out of the bag. But of course some posters here would try to tell you black is white :rolleyes:

Futhermore even if we were to accept your version of events then we can now say that there is 150 chances that a Garda leaked it, one that it was the doctor and one that it was Daly. If I was a betting man I know where I'd be putting my money.

Especially as we now know that GSOC are investigating the Daly leaks and we also know that they have the right to access journalists phones. Surely if it was Daly herself who leaked it then GSOC would be prosecuting her for wasting their time with lies. I don't see that happening but what I do see is the former Minister for Justice firmly pointing his finger at the Gardai.

blackwhite

Muahahaha wrote: »

Oh so it wasn't one of the 150 Gardai who accessed Clare Dalys Pulse record, it must have been a member of the public who happened to be in the station :rolleyes:

Shatter has just let the cat out of the bag. But of course some posters here would try to tell you black is white :rolleyes:

I assume you have a quote where I said that - or is it just the usual misquoting of everyone else to try and push your agenda?

blackwhite

Muahahaha wrote: »

Futhermore even if we were to accept your version of events then we can now say that there is 150 chances that a Garda leaked it, one that it was the doctor and one that it was Daly. If I was a betting man I know where I'd be putting my money.

Again - more deliberate misquoting. If you are interested in honest debate then just come out an say so.

The most likely culprit was someone in the station that night. It could have been Gardaí, or it could have been someone else.
Unlike certain people with a very clear agenda on here, I've an open mind to what the possibilities are until some actual evidence is presented.

As for the 150 who accessed Pulse - basic logic and reasoning (something you seem keen to abandon any time a pro-Wallace or Daly agenda can be pushed) would lead any rational person to realise that it's far more likely that the inappropriate Pulse inquiries happen after the story was in the press - by Gardaí who were trying to have a snoop at the details.

Unless of course, you happen to think it's that 150 different on-duty Gardaí all happened to know about the arrest, and had the time and ability to access Pulse, in the couple of hours between the arrest and the media reporting it?

Muahahaha

blackwhite wrote: »

I assume you have a quote where I said that - or is it just the usual misquoting of everyone else to try and push your agenda?

Are you saying that Daly, the solicitor and the doctor aren't members of the public? You've denied that it was a Garda who leaked it and said it must have been someone in the station. If it wasn't a Garda then who was it?

Like I said this is settled beyond any reasonable doubt. Its you who has the agenda, not I. I'm only dealing with the facts as they present themselves. And the fact of the matter is the Gardai in this country have shown themselves time and time again to be the most leaky organisation in the land, sure the entire Sunday World is made up of Garda leaks, everyone in their right mind knows that. And here we are again with the Gardai true to form leaking details of Clare Dalys arrest. Instead of using Ochams razor you're trying to obfuscate and engage in whataboutery when we now know 150 Gardai accessed her Pulse file after her arrest. And the best you can do is claim it wasn't the Gardai who done it? Really? I'd say a judge and jury would have a hard time believing that spin

Muahahaha

So tell us blackwhite who do you think leaked the information?

1.Clare Daly
2. Her solicitor
3. The Doctor
4. Someone who happened to be standing in the station and somehow knew all the details that were then reported to the media

If you were on a jury and had to decide. You know that there was a leak and also you know one of the four above were responsible. Which of the above do you thnk is the most likely?

Little CuChulainn

Muahahaha wrote: »

Oh so it wasn't one of the 150 Gardai who accessed Clare Dalys Pulse record, it must have been a member of the public who happened to be in the station :rolleyes:

Shatter has just let the cat out of the bag. But of course some posters here would try to tell you black is white :rolleyes:

Futhermore even if we were to accept your version of events then we can now say that there is 150 chances that a Garda leaked it, one that it was the doctor and one that it was Daly. If I was a betting man I know where I'd be putting my money.

Especially as we now know that GSOC are investigating the Daly leaks and we also know that they have the right to access journalists phones. Surely if it was Daly herself who leaked it then GSOC would be prosecuting her for wasting their time with lies. I don't see that happening but what I do see is the former Minister for Justice firmly pointing his finger at the Gardai.

Let the cat out of the bag? It had already been reported at the time that lots of people looked it up. If you look up any notable incident you will find plenty of Gardaí have checked it up. Whether this is right or wrong is up for debate. It's part of a Gardas job to keep up to date on local incidents and people as well as nationally significant incidents and people. But whether you consider that right or wrong, there is quite a difference between being nosey and leaking a story to the press.

As to your concern for Ms Daly being prosecuted for wasting GSOC time. Prosecutions of this nature are few in number and generally only occur when GSOC have been left red faced. They aren't interested in prosecuting civilians, only Gardaí. I'm only aware of two such cases in the history of GSOC. You could say it is more telling that, despite being able to access journalists phones, they still haven't charged a Garda with leaking the info.

Little CuChulainn

Muahahaha wrote: »

So tell us blackwhite who do you think leaked the information?

1.Clare Daly
2. Her solicitor
3. The Doctor
4. Someone who happened to be standing in the station and somehow knew all the details that were then reported to the media

If you were on a jury and had to decide. You know that there was a leak and also you know one of the four above were responsible. Which of the above do you thnk is the most likely?

That's not how Juries work, that's how a betting shop works.

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

That's not how Juries work, that's how a betting shop works.

Why don't you answer the question posed then? I'm talking about what is most likely, which is the same criteria any Garda detective would use when assessing his list of suspects in a crime. Of the four listed who do you think is the most likely, given all the facts available to us?

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Let the cat out of the bag? It had already been reported at the time that lots of people looked it up.

Do you have a link for this, I never remember the Gardai admitting they breached her privacy. What I do remember is you saying further up the thread that it was only a small number of Gardai who accessed it but now that we know it is 150 Gardai who did it you quickly change your tune to say this

If you look up any notable incident you will find plenty of Gardaí have checked it up. Whether this is right or wrong is up for debate. It's part of a Gardas job to keep up to date on local incidents and people as well as nationally significant incidents and people. But whether you consider that right or wrong, there is quite a difference between being nosey and leaking a story to the press.

So first you say it is likely only a handful of Gardai but now we know it is 150 you try to justify it by saying her arrest for drink driving was of national importance and 150 Gardai job to spy on her private affairs? Can you show us the part of the Pulse manual or Garda Code of Conduct that says this is best practice? Because in any mans book it is an outrageous breach of privacy, how are members of the public to trust any information they give to the Gardai if this is the way they treat peoples privacy? Even Shatter said he was worried about how they are behaving and coming from him that is really saying something.

As to your concern for Ms Daly being prosecuted for wasting GSOC time. Prosecutions of this nature are few in number and generally only occur when GSOC have been left red faced.

On the contrary- if Clare Daly spun GSOC a web of lies and they wasted resources investigating it then they would certainly be left red faced and would be out to get her.

They aren't interested in prosecuting civilians, only Gardaí. I'm only aware of two such cases in the history of GSOC. You could say it is more telling that, despite being able to access journalists phones, they still haven't charged a Garda with leaking the info.

Well it is their remit to investigate Gardai so its not all that surprising that the vast majority of people they prosecute are Gardai. You seem to be of the opinion that all Gardai are angels but the 567 pages of the Morris tribunal would suggest the complete opposite. I'm not for a minute suggesting that all Gardai are up to something, far from it. But what I am saying is that we have some members of the force who do not meet the standards that the public expect. This Daly leaking affair is just another bit of evidence in a long litany of evidence to that assertion.

I do have to give the Gardai some credit for their progress, back in 2002 they were planting fake bombs in Donegal so they could find them again and get promotions. Now 14 years on they are planting fake bombs in Sligo as a prank on their superintendent who suspended the Garda. I suppose you could say thats some sort of progress

blackwhite

Muahahaha wrote: »

Are you saying that Daly, the solicitor and the doctor aren't members of the public? You've denied that it was a Garda who leaked it and said it must have been someone in the station. If it wasn't a Garda then who was it?

Like I said this is settled beyond any reasonable doubt. Its you who has the agenda, not I. I'm only dealing with the facts as they present themselves. And the fact of the matter is the Gardai in this country have shown themselves time and time again to be the most leaky organisation in the land, sure the entire Sunday World is made up of Garda leaks, everyone in their right mind knows that. And here we are again with the Gardai true to form leaking details of Clare Dalys arrest. Instead of using Ochams razor you're trying to obfuscate and engage in whataboutery when we now know 150 Gardai accessed her Pulse file after her arrest. And the best you can do is claim it wasn't the Gardai who done it? Really? I'd say a judge and jury would have a hard time believing that spin

Again - where's the quote to back up this claim?

Deliberately misquoting time and time again. If you refuse to show even a shred of honesty then what's the point

blackwhite

Muahahaha wrote: »

Are you saying that Daly, the solicitor and the doctor aren't members of the public? You've denied that it was a Garda who leaked it and said it must have been someone in the station. If it wasn't a Garda then who was it?

blackwhite wrote: »

The most likely scenario is that someone who was present at the arrest or in the station that night is the one who was responsible for the leak.

That could have been a Garda present, it could have been a doctor, or it could have been some other person who was in the station that night (including Clare herself, looking to play the martyr - unlikely, but still possible).

Quoted for the terminally incapable of basic comprehension.

Muahahaha

Why don't you answer the question instead of running from it?

Again-

So tell us blackwhite who do you think leaked the information?

1.Clare Daly
2. Her solicitor
3. The Doctor
4. Someone who happened to be standing in the station and somehow knew all the details that were then reported to the media

If you were on a jury and had to decide. You know that there was a leak and also you know one of the four above were responsible. Which of the above do you think is the most likely?

Muahahaha

blackwhite wrote: »

Quoted for the terminally incapable of basic comprehension.

haha thats a laugh given you said this

Originally Posted by blackwhite

The most likely scenario is that someone who was present at the arrest or in the station that night is the one who was responsible for the leak.

That could have been a Garda present, it could have been a doctor, or it could have been some other person who was in the station that night (including Clare herself, looking to play the martyr - unlikely, but still possible).

So basically you're saying it could have been everyone. But you don't want to deal with who it likely was. Instead you choose to put your head in the sand.

blackwhite

Muahahaha wrote: »

Why don't you answer the question instead of running from it?

Again-

I'd say it was highly likely to have been someone who was in the station - beyond that it's impossible to tell - no actual evidence has been put forward.

Good to see you've at least dropped the deliberate mis-quoting - and are classy enough to apologise for repeatedly doing so.... oh wait

Muahahaha

blackwhite wrote: »

I'd say it was highly likely to have been someone who was in the station - beyond that it's impossible to tell - no actual evidence has been put forward

That wasnt the question I asked you. You are still running from the question that was asked. And you say I have an agenda?


For the third time and this time I've bolded the pertinent bit so it is extra clear for you and I won't have to ask you a fourth time hopefully

So tell us blackwhite who do you think leaked the information?

1.Clare Daly
2. Her solicitor
3. The Doctor
4. Someone who happened to be standing in the station and somehow knew all the details that were then reported to the media

If you were on a jury and had to decide. You know that there was a leak and also you know one of the four above were responsible. Which of the above do you think is the most likely?

blackwhite

Muahahaha wrote: »

That wasnt the question I asked you. You are still running from the question that was asked. And you say I have an agenda?


For the third time and this time I've bolded the pertinent bit so it is extra clear for you and I won't have to ask you a fourth time hopefully

So a flat refusal to apologise for your repeated lies.......... stay classy :rolleyes:

I've no interest in playing games with someone who continually tries to misrepesent what I've said - and is pushing loaded questions to try and force the answer they want to hear.

I've already answered - I'd say there isn't enough evidence to say who it might have been - we don't know who was there, or what was or wasn't said in the public area there.


Lying, repeatedly misrepresenting what others post, and then trying to brow-beat people into bowing to your opinion - classy

K-9

Mod:

Do not accuse others of lying unless you can prove it.

Little CuChulainn

Muahahaha wrote: »

Do you have a link for this, I never remember the Gardai admitting they breached her privacy. What I do remember is you saying further up the thread that it was only a small number of Gardai who accessed it but now that we know it is 150 Gardai who did it you quickly change your tune to say this

http://www.thejournal.ie/clare-daly-arrest-garda-leak-848112-Mar2013/

There you go. Can you link that post where I said only a small number of Gardaí accessed it? I don't see the one you are referring to.

Muahahaha wrote: »

So first you say it is likely only a handful of Gardai but now we know it is 150 you try to justify it by saying her arrest for drink driving was of national importance and 150 Gardai job to spy on her private affairs? Can you show us the part of the Pulse manual or Garda Code of Conduct that says this is best practice? Because in any mans book it is an outrageous breach of privacy, how are members of the public to trust any information they give to the Gardai if this is the way they treat peoples privacy? Even Shatter said he was worried about how they are behaving and coming from him that is really saying something.

It's unlikely to have been 150 individual Gardaí. The system simply lists access attempts and shows a total. So the 150 will include GSOC, data protection commission requests and officer attempts as well as the investigating members and the person who created the incident and likely the press office. It's still a high number alright but she comes into contact with Gardaí a lot.

Muahahaha wrote: »

On the contrary- if Clare Daly spun GSOC a web of lies and they wasted resources investigating it then they would certainly be left red faced and would be out to get her.

I doubt it.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Well it is their remit to investigate Gardai so its not all that surprising that the vast majority of people they prosecute are Gardai. You seem to be of the opinion that all Gardai are angels but the 567 pages of the Morris tribunal would suggest the complete opposite. I'm not for a minute suggesting that all Gardai are up to something, far from it. But what I am saying is that we have some members of the force who do not meet the standards that the public expect. This Daly leaking affair is just another bit of evidence in a long litany of evidence to that assertion.

I've never said all Gardaí are angels. If a Garda is found to have leaked the info on Ms Daly he should be fired for stupidity at the least.

Muahahaha wrote: »

I do have to give the Gardai some credit for their progress, back in 2002 they were planting fake bombs in Donegal so they could find them again and get promotions. Now 14 years on they are planting fake bombs in Sligo as a prank on their superintendent who suspended the Garda. I suppose you could say thats some sort of progress

Did it hurt to type that?

ancapailldorcha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Did it hurt to type that?

This goes for the pair of ye. It ends now. No more bickering.

Possible people who knew of her arrest;
Herself
Anyone she rang when in custody
Her solicitor
The doctor
The gardai present
Any other person in custody in the station
The civil servants employed in the station
The cleaners employed in the station
The civil servants employed in the gisc in Castlebar
Any relation/ friend of any of the above
The gardai & civilians employed in the press office
I'm just pointing out that there are any number of people who could've known about this arrest. And we don't know how many of these people have relationships to journalists.

mynamejeff

bubblypop wrote: »

Possible people who knew of her arrest;
Herself
Anyone she rang when in custody
Her solicitor
The doctor
The gardai present
Any other person in custody in the station
The civil servants employed in the station
The cleaners employed in the station
The civil servants employed in the gisc in Castlebar
Any relation/ friend of any of the above
The gardai & civilians employed in the press office
I'm just pointing out that there are any number of people who could've known about this arrest. And we don't know how many of these people have relationships to journalists.

I wonder if the only one whose phone was tapped was the Garda who coached the journalists kids.

Seems to me that the only one of those people who would be libel for punishment is the only one being blames for it

MRnotlob606

I am not a fan of Clare Daly or her political views.

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Can you link that post where I said only a small number of Gardaí accessed it? I don't see the one you are referring to.

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

There is just no motive for a Garda to leak her info. There is no gain that would be worth the risk. And it would be a risk because a leak that close to the event could only have come from a small number of Gardaí. Easily traceable.

But now we know its not a small number of Gardai, its 150 of them. And you then changed to saying that it is the job of Gardai in other districts to keep an eye on national events. I'm not sure how a drink driving arrest is a national event?

If you look up any notable incident you will find plenty of Gardaí have checked it up. Whether this is right or wrong is up for debate. It's part of a Gardas job to keep up to date on local incidents and people as well as nationally significant incidents and people. But whether you consider that right or wrong, there is quite a difference between being nosey and leaking a story to the press.

In any case you say that Gardai leaking info is just not worth their while. But we know the entire Sunday World is based on Garda leaks. We know Paul Reynolds has a direct line into the Garda press office. As I said they are the most leaky organisation in the entire country unless you can show me otherwise? We now know 150 of them see no problems snooping on an innocuous arrest of a TD, one that turned out to be a non-event as she was not over the limit. That still didn't stop someone trying to sleight her reputation by leaking it to the media who have her convicted the next day. Due process was not followed here.

Little CuChulainn

Muahahaha wrote: »

But now we know its not a small number of Gardai, its 150 of them. And you then changed to saying that it is the job of Gardai in other districts to keep an eye on national events. I'm not sure how a drink driving arrest is a national event?

You are mixing two things up. Only a small number of Gardaí could have leaked the incident because it was in the media so quickly. The 150 lookups refer to the total number of times a person has been looked up in a lifetime.

Muahahaha wrote: »

In any case you say that Gardai leaking info is just not worth their while. But we know the entire Sunday World is based on Garda leaks. We know Paul Reynolds has a direct line into the Garda press office. As I said they are the most leaky organisation in the entire country unless you can show me otherwise? We now know 150 of them see no problems snooping on an innocuous arrest of a TD, one that turned out to be a non-event as she was not over the limit. That still didn't stop someone trying to sleight her reputation by leaking it to the media who have her convicted the next day. Due process was not followed here.

Again, you don't seem to understand how the system works. 150 people did not snoop. Her record has been accessed 150 times. This doesn't specifically mean she was looked up 150 times. A persons record is accessed when an incident is created, a court outcome is created, previous convictions are searched, warrant searches. Even searching for a particular incident will usually be done by searching through the persons record so management and GSOC access will also be included in this number.

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You are mixing two things up. Only a small number of Gardaí could have leaked the incident because it was in the media so quickly. The 150 lookups refer to the total number of times a person has been looked up in a lifetime.



Again, you don't seem to understand how the system works. 150 people did not snoop. Her record has been accessed 150 times. This doesn't specifically mean she was looked up 150 times. A persons record is accessed when an incident is created, a court outcome is created, previous convictions are searched, warrant searches. Even searching for a particular incident will usually be done by searching through the persons record so management and GSOC access will also be included in this number.

I take your points. However Shatter mentioned 150 Gardai. Does the system not allow an auditor to see how many individual people looked it up? Like I presume the Pulse system has a logon which is individual to each different Garda? Surely with that data you'd be able to tell both how many times it was looked up and also by how many different logons? .

Little CuChulainn

Muahahaha wrote: »

I take your points. However Shatter mentioned 150 Gardai. Does the system not allow an auditor to see how many individual people looked it up? Like I presume the Pulse system has a logon which is individual to each different Garda? Surely with that data you'd be able to tell both how many times it was looked up and also by how many different logons? .

Yes and no. You can technically measure the number of individual user checks in a certain period by manually counting them but due to the way PULSE is operated in the stations the figure would be very inaccurate.

Clare Daly was on RTE Radio today suggesting we follow the Italian system of protecting juries and do away with the Special Criminal court.

Italian criminal courts don't use juries do they?

Baggy Trousers

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

I am not a fan of Clare Daly or her political views....

...but she was treated disgracefully by the Gardaí and the same would not have happened to a FG TD??

Little CuChulainn

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

...but she was treated disgracefully by the Gardaí and the same would not have happened to a FG TD??

She drank alcohol and drove. She was stopped for making an illegal turn. She failed to give a road side breath sample. She was arrested and brought to the station were she gave a sample. Same treatment every other person in the country would get. It's textbook.