National Hurling League 2015 General Discussion

Cake Man

Yessssss get the fcuk in!! League final here we come brilliant display from the lads, delighted!

Fireball07

Well done to Waterford, definitely the better team. Stuck with their plan but started to play smarter ball into the attack and the likes of Shanahan and Dunford stepped up.

letsseehere14

Good game of hurling for the neutral. Waterford really went for it. Is that them at full tilt though? Tipps bad luck with officials strikes them again by being denied the 65 at the death and I thought Waterford winning free was soft. But Waterford definetly the better team on the day. Will they still be this close come championship though?
Cork Dublin. Dublin lads must be sick!

Fireball07

letsseehere14 wrote: »

Good game of hurling for the neutral. Waterford really went for it. Is that them at full tilt though? Tipps bad luck with officials strikes them again by being denied the 65 at the death and I thought Waterford winning free was soft. But Waterford definetly the better team on the day. Will they still be this close come championship though?
Cork Dublin. Dublin lads must be sick!

Hard to know whether that's them at full tilt. I thought Dublin were at full tilt in the first half but it's very hard to know for sure. It's something you'll only see come Championship.

O Riain

letsseehere14 wrote: »

Good game of hurling for the neutral. Waterford really went for it. Is that them at full tilt though? Tipps bad luck with officials strikes them again by being denied the 65 at the death and I thought Waterford winning free was soft. But Waterford definetly the better team on the day. Will they still be this close come championship though?
Cork Dublin. Dublin lads must be sick!

Looked like a sideline ball to me.

letsseehere14

Fireball07 wrote:

Hard to know whether that's them at full tilt. I thought Dublin were at full tilt in the first half but it's very hard to know for sure. It's something you'll only see come Championship.

True. From where I was sitting I though Waterford definetly brought the highest level of intensity of the 4, Tipp the least. It's good that we're seeing a levelling of the field I just wouldn't get ahead if myself if I was a Waterford fan.

Fireball07

O Riain wrote: »

Looked like a sideline ball to me.

It was definitely a '65 tbf. But hard to begrudge Waterford the win, they were the better team.

Mushy

Too many wides from Tipp, easy wides too. That is what cost them. They didn't get out of second gear either, Waterford punished them and deserved the win. Annoyed at not being given the chance to level up fairly though, clearly a 65.

KevIRL

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Early yet but tipp total control
Only one winner as tipp are no Dublin and Waterford certainly no cork imo allow same comeback
I said this week Waterford over rated based on nothing achieved yet and while deserved huge credit division two it'd an awful awful division and when Waterford could not beat a poor one dimensional limerick showed while good certainly not good as made out to be
This is even weak tipp team
Huge gap between division one hurling and lower division
No wonder no team lower division won all Ireland since 96

Nice.

HatchetMan7

if the ball hits the corner flag its a sideline cut no matter which side the ball goes out on. Looked like the ball hit the flag but not 100 % sure though

Fireball07

The only disappointing is that with Cork & Waterford playing each other in the Championship in a few weeks, it's hard to see them giving absolutely everything in the league final.

HatchetMan7

Fireball07 wrote: »

The only disappointing is that with Cork & Waterford playing each other in the Championship in a few weeks, it's hard to see them giving absolutely everything in the league final.

Waterford will give everything to win the final don't know about Cork but it would be crazy not to.

blue note

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Early yet but tipp total control
Only one winner as tipp are no Dublin and Waterford certainly no cork imo allow same comeback
I said this week Waterford over rated based on nothing achieved yet and while deserved huge credit division two it'd an awful awful division and when Waterford could not beat a poor one dimensional limerick showed while good certainly not good as made out to be
This is even weak tipp team
Huge gap between division one hurling and lower division
No wonder no team lower division won all Ireland since 96

Fair play for having an opinion and committing to it by posting it as opposed to someone coming on after and saying they knew that would happen. But making that jujudgement after 20 minutes was ludicrous!

I'm wondering too if we're a little bit ahead of others in our season too, but hopefully not. Deservedly in the league final anyway.

letsseehere14

HatchetMan7 wrote:

if the ball hits the corner flag its a sideline cut no matter which side the ball goes out on. Looked like the ball hit the flag but not 100 % sure though

You're right, if it struck the flag it's a sideline ball. I thought the spin from the attempted clearance took it out by itself but I'm probably wrong. No point dwelling on one moment. Two excellent games. Good atmosphere and really makes Munster and Leinster interesting this year.

letowski

Barry Kelly was right in the end according to TSG. If the ball touches any bit of the flag it's a sideline despite bouncing goal side. Few Tipp people on twitter looking a little red faced I think.

PTH2009

Fireball07 wrote: »

The only disappointing is that with Cork & Waterford playing each other in the Championship in a few weeks, it's hard to see them giving absolutely everything in the league final.

It should of been Dublin vs Waterford. They deserved a free near the end. Was in front of a cork lad who gave out about cork all match and then celebrated like they won the all Ireland

Anonymou

PTH2009 wrote: »

It should of been Dublin vs Waterford. They deserved a free near the end. Was in front of a cork lad who gave out about cork all match and then celebrated like they won the all Ireland

If you're talking about the schutte incident that was on the highlights and marty morrissey was pretending to be shocked over, then no they did not deserve a free, nothing in it at all.

Mountainlad

I think Waterford set out the stall in November to target the league but I doubt they expected this sort of progress. It's a great achievement in a short space of time off the back of last year.

I dunno what sort of improvement we will see between now and the summer but I would say we probably have the lowest aver age of any team bar maybe Clare in the Country so that would be a good reason for suggesting their is as much improvement in them as any team in the Country. But obviously, you'll have the likes of Kilkenny, Clare, Limerick back in the fold come championship and a resurgent Tipp. Wouldn't be thinking too far ahead, but as a young team playing so well this year and coming from 7 points down against the form team in the Country...well, I think it would be fair enough that we think we are back on the big stage at least.

Borders no.2

Two very exciting games to provide more evidence that there will be very few games easy to call this summer. Also the venue definitely added to the spectacle, good crowd and good atmosphere in a suitable venue. The GAA should take note for the football semi-finals if they insist on persisting with them.

Wasn't overly impressed with Cork today but it has the makings of two good games between themselves and Waterford. Waterford have had a great league. At this stage in their development there is probably more pressure on Cork to put down a marker by getting their hands on national silverware.

hawkwing

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Two very exciting games to provide more evidence that there will be very few games easy to call this summer. Also the venue definitely added to the spectacle, good crowd and good atmosphere in a suitable venue. The GAA should take note for the football semi-finals if they insist on persisting with them.

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zetecescort

anybody know if they still play the camogie league final before the hurling? Cork qualified for that too at the weekend

thinkstoomuch1

blue note wrote: »

Fair play for having an opinion and committing to it by posting it as opposed to someone coming on after and saying they knew that would happen. But making that jujudgement after 20 minutes was ludicrous!

I'm wondering too if we're a little bit ahead of others in our season too, but hopefully not. Deservedly in the league final anyway.

Yeah I don't believe in being wise after I like to say it as it is unlike one Waterford poster who great to never call a game before it starts or say he's view but then soon results come in quick point out there wrong
And it's not you, the poster I mean someone else

It's fair point you make it was bit early and I got it wrong but way tipp carved open Waterford I didn't see tipp easing off

Great win for ye ye showed heart hunger desire and skill
It's good win but I wouldn't be convinced yet maybe I'm too old school but I hate false dawns sport and I like be convinced before thinking a team is great

Im not sure if anyone coming in Waterford team make it stronger it is in system is main point but you add barret and others to tipp there stronger so even though expect tipp still win fact is tipp were not strongest yesterday

What I must say is admirable by mcgrath is he's non traditional Waterford style but embracing new modern game which is sweeper style
Now worry is is its too defence minded and key is getting balance right but also key will be like clare won is have two systems orthodox and sweeper as if any team one then you become predictable one dimension like limerick are and cork were last two years
KK everybody believe this myth there orthodox all day long
There far from it and I could list many games played sweeper, played one v tipp all Ireland final v Dublin before and against limerick practical parked the bus last twenty minutes as the weather imo dictated such a style
Variation is key to any team success


Waterford have a system no doubt but there imo not scoring enough from play compared clsre similar system but they score freely from play and Waterford can't over rely on frees they need some scores from play
Credit due though for getting to a league final and being promoted

Fireball07

So who do we think will win this?


I'd say it'll be very close but I'm tipping Waterford.

Fireball07

Lively start from Waterford, high intensity. Bad wide by Dunford but then a crap puckout by Nash and they score anyway.

Fireball07

Maurice Shanahan went past Ryan as if he wasn't there, probably needs some time to settle.

Harnedy lording the air but a bad wide.

Fireball07

Cadogan gone, injured- Paudie O'Sullivan on.


Waterford playing the better hurling, but Harnedy's ball-winning is a huge asset and Waterford giving away soft frees.

Fireball07

Lovely sideline from Gleeson, beautiful score.

Fireball07

Jaysus, the Cork shooting is woeful so far.

Fireball07

Better from Cork, a point from play, Fives did well enough to push him away from goal though.

Fireball07

Fine save from SOK! Harnedy is doing very well.