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No contraception, no dole

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Will the government cover the cost of the contraception?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Wait till the feminist movement hears this.

    He will be set on fire.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Trying to discourage people from having kids they can't afford to support? Sounds great to me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    This whole idea is just fcuking hilarious! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭chrysagon


    governemt sponsored spaying!!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Some Australian former politician says something controversial in his newspaper column. Sounds like one of those gob****es who comes out with that kind of rubbish regularly to keep himself in a job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,845 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    why not just neuter them while they're at it? Same for the blokes- they would come tops in the World Social Welfare Castrato choir competition


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    He is right.

    There's too many on welfare having children and making it a lifestyle choice for themselves. Why should the taxpayer support this choice?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    chrysagon wrote: »
    governemt sponsored spaying!!!!

    Free morning after pills with every dole payment. Just in case...


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Awstrawlia really does seem to excel at producing obnoxious ballbags


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭DeJa VooDoo


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    He is right.

    There's too many on welfare having children and making it a lifestyle choice for themselves. Why should the taxpayer support this choice?

    Have you got kids?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I still think we should go with my plan of turning people on the dole into Soylent Green or at least experiment on them so we can extract nutrients from them for our own benefit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Have you got kids?

    14, not that it's any of your business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Bambi wrote: »
    Awstrawlia really does seem to excel at producing obnoxious ballbags

    No more obnoxious than a single mother with five kids expecting me to pay her way.

    Scrounging as a way of life should be made unviable.

    I approve of this product and/or service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,986 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I would agree there is a link but that is fairly sexist, undemocratic, inhumane and something you would get under a dictatorship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's seems to getting momentum apparently the UK are looking into similar ideas ,

    As much as it sounds Rediculous maybe it's a good thing welfare shouldn't be a career choice probably be better off limiting the welfare payments to multiple kids ,get something for your first child after that your on your own


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Hahaha, some of you lot won't be happy until the government taxes getting the ride. Sex licences for some, jail terms for others.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    rob316 wrote: »
    I would agree there is a link but that is fairly sexist, undemocratic, inhumane and something you would get under a dictatorship.

    Raising kids in borderline poverty is inhumane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭DeJa VooDoo


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    14, not that it's any of your business.

    I'll take that as a no then.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,986 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Raising kids in borderline poverty is inhumane.

    the 50" flat screen and sky dish out the front says different :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    rob316 wrote: »
    the 50" flat screen and sky dish out the front says different :pac:


    How many people on the dole do you know like that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    I'll take that as a no then.:rolleyes:

    I'd be entitled to ask you 'do you have kids' but I don't care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭DeJa VooDoo


    "IT'S THE UNMARRIED MOTHERS WOT DID IT I TELL YA"

    Soooooooo 1980's.
    The more we change, the more we stay the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭DeJa VooDoo


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    I'd be entitled to ask you 'do you have kids' but I don't care.

    Obviously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    While I do think that disincentivising so-called Mickey-Money would be a good idea, I feel uncomfortable with 'no contraception, no money'. It just smacks to me a bit of getting a boot in the door regarding benefits. What would be next? Prove you don't smoke? Prove you don't buy junk food? Start to penalise low wage earners receiving benefits in the same way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭CarpeDiem85


    Oh lovely, another thread on picking on single parents, by that I mean single mothers! There have already been changes to claiming the One Parent Family Allowance in Ireland so how you'd make bringing up children a lifestyle choice is beyond me.


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    CruelCoin wrote: »
    No more obnoxious than a single mother with five kids expecting me to pay her way.

    Scrounging as a way of life should be made unviable.

    I approve of this product and/or service.

    Not one mention of the male species and their responsibilities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Hahaha, some of you lot won't be happy until the government taxes getting the ride. Sex licences for some, jail terms for others.

    'The ride'

    Do some people just get the one ride and that's it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭DeJa VooDoo


    kylith wrote: »
    While I do think that disincentivising so-called Mickey-Money would be a good idea, I feel uncomfortable with 'no contraception, no money'. It just smacks to me a bit of getting a boot in the door regarding benefits. What would be next? Prove you don't smoke? Prove you don't buy junk food? Start to penalise low wage earners receiving benefits in the same way?

    Perhaps all women should be issued with chastity belts and the keys be held by the state until they have a good education and a permanent job they can't be sacked from. (The PS comes to mind)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,986 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Oh lovely, another thread on picking on single parents, by that I mean single mothers! There have already been changes to claiming the One Parent Family Allowance in Ireland so how you'd make bringing up children a lifestyle choice is beyond me.

    Not looking to pick on any single mothers, I know plenty hard working mothers who do dads job too. Total respect for them.

    Thread was more about this lunatics idea.


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