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Zzippy

Podge_irl wrote: »

Are 3D TVs not kind of stupid?

No, they're smart, stupid! Can you not read good?

awec

Podge_irl wrote: »

Are 3D TVs not kind of stupid?

The 3D wasn't that important for me. Could have done without. Just happened that this model comes with it.

errlloyd

I remember watching an Aviva Premiership game in 3D a few years ago, it was amazing. I hate cinema 3d, but the live cameras they used were actually pretty cool. For most of the game it didn't make a huge difference, but at lineouts and goal kicks they had them set up really well.

I think sky have begun to forget 3d though.

awec

Yea they have. Sky used to make a big deal about their 3D football and always be advertising it but now you'd never hear about it at all. Not sure they even show 3D football any more.

I think most people don't have a 3DTV and also weren't willing to pay the premium to Sky. Think they charged extra for it.

TommyOM

Comedy gold!

http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/watch-conor-mcgregor-order-jose-5402295

.ak

Podge_irl wrote: »

Well it depends. There could certainly be a struggle and that could end up either way. You can't nosedive a plane, there is a reason it took so long to crash (if that's what indeed happened).

Fairly terrifying though.

Yeah that's what I meant, you could in theory incapacitate the other pilot if you wanted to and they didn't expect it... I just don't think having two people in the cockpit at all times is logical.

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

Am I crazy to be slightly relieved by this? It was down to a human rather than mechanical error.

I'd say the statics point to a majority of pilot/human error in air accidents... so, make of that what you will? I wonder if we removed humans from most air related processes would there be any accidents at all...

b.gud

.ak wrote: »

I'd say the statics point to a majority of pilot/human error in air accidents... so, make of that what you will? I wonder if we removed humans from most air related processes would there be any accidents at all...

Probably would greatly reduce the number of incidents but like driverless cars it will be a ling time before we are ready as a society to put full faith in it

.ak

molloyjh wrote: »

Then it needs to be revisited to ensure there is a fail-safe in this eventuality. I don't know what, but there needs to be something.

Not sure why there isn't FOBs plus a passcode?

Wang King

.ak wrote: »

Not sure why there isn't FOBs plus a passcode?

You have a fob & a pass code..... I have a gun and put it to your temple... What's the pass code pretty please?

.ak

Wang King wrote: »

You have a fob & a pass code..... I have a gun and put it to your temple... What's the pass code pretty please?

Yeah was thinking that unless you could devise some sort of time failsafe like in banks.

Also hijacker would have to bank on the pilot leaving to use the toilet.

Maybe toilets inside the cockpit should be looked at.

Podge_irl

Toilets inside the cockpit are, I imagine, a complete non-runner. It would require a complete redesign of the planes...

.ak

Podge_irl wrote: »

Toilets inside the cockpit are, I imagine, a complete non-runner. It would require a complete redesign of the planes...

Not completely, it could be an adaptation on the galley.

But it really depends on how much noise is made over this incident, if proven to be true.

Clearlier

b.gud wrote: »

Probably would greatly reduce the number of incidents but like driverless cars it will be a ling time before we are ready as a society to put full faith in it

I think that driverless cars will happen pretty quickly once the technology is there. The barriers to entry will just be too low. Add in people who are no longer able to drive (elderly, those with sight conditions etc.) and there'll be enough of a push that I could see it becoming the dominant technology with 20 years of its introduction.

Public transport vehicles are a different story and I completely agree that there's a long lead in time to get public trust for these. The technology has apparently been available to provide driverless trains since before the DART - I remember getting a talk in school from somebody a couple of years after the introduction of it saying that they had considered it but rejected it because of concerns about the public accepting it (there may also have been concerns about the unions response but these weren't mentioned!). There are some driverless trains in place now (not in Ireland) though and they seem to work well and be accepted. Planes would be another leap of faith but it's not that hard to see it happening eventually.

Podge_irl

.ak wrote: »

Not completely, it could be an adaptation on the galley.

But it really depends on how much noise is made over this incident, if proven to be true.

There is no space!

Anyway, as you say it'll depend on the level of fallout from this. I'm not personally all that worried about this kind of event going forward...

Buer

Remotely open the door via satellite signal. It's the only thing I can think of. The signal to be activated by ground control only in the event of sudden deviation of course or altitude.

I work as a contractor in one of the large banks (oh the f*cking irony.....I'm taking them down from the inside after yesterday) and nobody in Dublin controls access to the vaults or cash centres.

CatFromHue

The door thing is an issue but what if you can re open it and you've one guy wanting to crash the plane and another not wanting too!

He could be over powered but in the time it takes to re open the door I'm guessing there are other things, fuel dump maybe, the suicidal pilot could do to make the plane crash but on a longer time scale.

I suppose if a pilot knows the door can be opened remotely they'll know the time frame involved to get it re opened so may not try and crash the plane at all.

.ak

Podge_irl wrote: »

There is no space!

Anyway, as you say it'll depend on the level of fallout from this. I'm not personally all that worried about this kind of event going forward...

Well you could sacrifice a row or two of seats, it's defo do-able but at a major cost.

Yeah me neither, it'd be super rare... but you just never know how these sort of events will mould things.

errlloyd

.ak wrote: »

I'd say the statics point to a majority of pilot/human error in air accidents... so, make of that what you will? I wonder if we removed humans from most air related processes would there be any accidents at all...

Woah, yes pilot error causes some crashes, but pilot response avoids a much LARGER amount of accidents when tech fails. Serial fan of Air Crash Investigation here, and it is amazing how many times incredible pilots in ridiculous circumstances managed to rescue planes. I am not just talking about miracle on the Hudson stuff, but there are many cases of pilots rescuing potential slippy situations that just never make the news.

Computers have to be programmed by humans. For us to program a computer to fly a plane and react to disasters we would need to be able to anticipate every single potential disaster and program a reaction to that, that is just not possible.

.ak

errlloyd wrote: »

Woah, yes pilot error causes some crashes, but pilot response avoids a much LARGER amount of accidents when tech fails. Serial fan of Air Crash Investigation here, and it is amazing how many times incredible pilots in ridiculous circumstances managed to rescue planes. I am not just talking about miracle on the Hudson stuff, but there are many cases of pilots rescuing potential slippy situations that just never make the news.

Computers have to be programmed by humans. For us to program a computer to fly a plane and react to disasters we would need to be able to anticipate every single potential disaster and program a reaction to that, that is just not possible.

Well I did say human/pilot error... i.e; traffic control, maintenance, interference etc.

I'm a student pilot myself and so I'm very aware of positive pilot response, and infact I would go to say we're almost always perfect and right. :cool:

molloyjh

TommyOM wrote: »

Comedy gold!

http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/watch-conor-mcgregor-order-jose-5402295

That reads like a Charlie Sheen rant.

mfceiling

Nice one lads...I'm looking at booking flights to Italy for the holidays but after reading the last few posts it looks like it will be a week in bundoran!!

errlloyd

One in three people who visit Bundoran die of despair, take your chances flying.

b.gud

mfceiling wrote: »

Nice one lads...I'm looking at booking flights to Italy for the holidays but after reading the last few posts it looks like it will be a week in bundoran!!

Bundoran wins over Italy everytime, Italy can't compete with the aqua Park.

CatFromHue

I found Bundoran a weird place, there's awful lot of Republican pubs there.

mfceiling

errlloyd wrote: »

One in three people who visit Bundoran die of despair, take your chances flying.

More room in the car coming home then...

awec

CatFromHue wrote: »

I found Bundoran a weird place, there's awful lot of Republican pubs there.

It's a popular holiday destination for people from West Belfast.

Buer

CatFromHue wrote: »

I found Bundoran a weird place, there's awful lot of Republican pubs there.

Went into The Emerald Bar with my mate from Lurgan. He was very uncomfortable, was clear it wasn't his sort of crowd. Ended up leaving after one pint.

The pictures of the hunger strikers covering the walls probably should have been a warning signal for him.

awec

Buer wrote: »

Went into The Emerald Bar with my mate from Lurgan. He was very uncomfortable, was clear it wasn't his sort of crowd. Ended up leaving after one pint.

The pictures of the hunger strikers covering the walls probably should have been a warning signal for him.

Lurgan is a fantastic place. Amazing.

Buer

awec wrote: »

Lurgan is a fantastic place. Amazing.

Alas, I've been, awec. A number of times!

Lord knows why I go back!