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And it begins... (bigot brigade anti-SSM leaflets) - ### Mod Warning in 1st Post ###

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    There's something about his posts that wouldn't be out of place at Youth Defence's forums.

    We are talking about 1123heavy I take it? I have as yet to read his other missives ...

    Edit: just did so and Yup ... Whoopsa daisy - walk away very carefully indeed ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,146 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I'm not gay, but I'm going to have some gay sex purely to annoy the people who distributed this leaflet. Guys, who's with me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I'm not gay, but I'm going to have some gay sex purely to annoy the people who distributed this leaflet. Guys, who's with me?

    Nice try. I'm not falling for that one again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    This guy just floats around winding people up, responding to nothing and getting banned.

    Is this the one who just finished the leaving? I seem to remember someone having remarkably angry opinions about long term relationships for someone who has only been legal for a year...

    I'm astounded at how you know absolutely know f*** all about me yet feel confident enough to make such a statement. I am not "just finished the leaving" and haven't "been legal for a year". Next time I suggest you think up something useful to say rather than ****ing on about something you know nothing about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    1123heavy wrote: »
    I'm astounded at how you know absolutely know f*** all about me yet feel confident enough to make such a statement. I am not "just finished the leaving" and haven't "been legal for a year". Next time I suggest you think up something useful to say rather than ****ing on about something you know nothing about.

    Hello Pot, let me introduce you to someone, their name is Kettle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    My view on the leaflet is quite clear s few pages back. Quite clear.

    Vastly overshadowed by crying foul on any link between the catholic church and the No campaign, despite plenty of public statements against it by said church.


    Followed by a frankly bizarre interlude on concerns that fathers would fail to explain the use of tampons to daughters, resulting in tampon wastage.

    No really, that actually happened.

    All in a thread about a truly nasty piece of propaganda. Any opinions on that?

    I am sick to the back teeth of people coming into the SSM threads, waggling the finger and telling us the gays ought to watch out lest they push voters away. Can't even say "look at this religious horse**** that came in my door" when said horse**** is religious. As if any reasonable person who was genuinely undecided was going to be tipped by that. Don't be daft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    I know, I'm not even sure why I bother responding. I worry that if people just ignore his nonsense others might thing it has some legitimacy though.

    This is what I despise about the teletubby pro gay brigade. Anyone who doesn't conform to their views is instantly labelled a "bigot", "narrow minded", "mentally ill", you name it and they label us with it. Why doesn't it work the other way around ? I wouldn't be confident thinking that just because anti ssm people aren't posting that means the majority are pro ssm, they just can't put up with you lot and how you see it fit to throw abuse at others but get all high and mighty and start reporting everyone else when you're given only a small dose of what you dish out, they therefore don't bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    Hello Pot, let me introduce you to someone, their name is Kettle.

    Oh I'm in stitches ... ha ...ha ... ha ... yawn.

    I know full well what I'm talking about when it comes to ssm and them getting their hands on children, just cos you don't agree is irrelevant. You have your views and I have mine, I managed to state mine without attacking anyone who had differing views, I recommend you try it too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Oh I'm in stitches ... ha ...ha ... ha ... yawn.

    I know full well what I'm talking about when it comes to ssm and them getting their hands on children, just cos you don't agree is irrelevant. You have your views and I have mine, I managed to state mine without attacking anyone who had differing views, I recommend you try it too.

    You can have any view you want. The scientific evidence say you are wrong on this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    1123heavy wrote: »
    This is what I despise about the teletubby pro gay brigade. Anyone who doesn't conform to their views is instantly labelled a "bigot", "narrow minded", "mentally ill", you name it and they label us with it. Why doesn't it work the other way around ?

    Homosexuality was actually classed as a mental illness for decades by "our betters".
    Count yourself lucky that you are not being carted off in your new fancy white coat that fastens at the back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    This "getting their hands on children" remark sounds scarily close to what you'd hear from Russian neo-Nazis when justifying their "safaris".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭Deenie123


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Oh I'm in stitches ... ha ...ha ... ha ... yawn.

    I know full well what I'm talking about when it comes to ssm and them getting their hands on children, just cos you don't agree is irrelevant. You have your views and I have mine, I managed to state mine without attacking anyone who had differing views, I recommend you try it too.

    Can you elaborate on that? In all seriousness, if you have experience in this area please share it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    1123heavy wrote: »
    I'm astounded at how you know absolutely know f*** all about me yet feel confident enough to make such a statement. I am not "just finished the leaving" and haven't "been legal for a year". Next time I suggest you think up something useful to say rather than ****ing on about something you know nothing about.

    I only asked if. Apparently not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    Yeah, it's almost as if you put forward narrow minded, bigoted, views, they'll get called narrow minded and bigoted. Shocking.

    The mentally ill comment was a step too far IMO, but the other accusations you're just going to have to suck up since they describe your posts very well.

    I won't be doing any sucking up, I honestly couldn't care (unlike some people who feel the need to report every other post).

    And to dear mrsbyrnes, you don't seem too mentally fit yourself, love. Do pipe down dear.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    This same guy has successfully derailed two otherwise good threads (to closure) in recent past by having two different accounts and having been banned from both, with the whole bigoted 'im not the backward one, youre all going to hell cos youre all paedophiles' bit

    He's Best ignored folks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    No, I checked. It is you. Just finished the leaving.

    You wanted gay people forcibly cured. How do you propose to force me into rehab?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    david75 wrote: »
    This same guy has successfully derailed two otherwise good threads (to closure) in recent past by having two different accounts and having been banned from both, with the whole bigoted 'im not the backward one, youre all going to hell cos youre all paedophiles' bit

    He's Best ignored folks..

    Do enlighten me of these "two accounts" you allege me to have had :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    I should clarify, two accounts with exactly the same 'view' from exactly the same ISP with remarkably similar usernames.
    It may or may not be this poster who seems to have taken it upon himself to think I meant him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    No, I checked. It is you. Just finished the leaving.

    You wanted gay people forcibly cured. How do you propose to force me into rehab?

    Oh ok, so it turns out I did my leaving cert last year and have only been legal a year, well I never ! Turns out I'm getting younger by the day :D


    Can we get back on topic. Thank you all for caring about my mental wellbeing and my time on earth so much but that wasn't the reason I came. I can only assume you have no reasonable debate to counter my argument against ssm. Vote no !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    david75 wrote: »
    I should clarify, two accounts with exactly the same 'view' from exactly the same ISP with remarkably similar usernames.
    It may or may not be this poster who seems to have taken it upon himself to think I meant him.

    I have no idea what you are talking about (neither do you from what I can see).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭Deenie123


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Oh ok, so it turns out I did my leaving cert last year and have only been legal a year, well I never ! Turns out I'm getting younger by the day :D


    Can we get back on topic. Thank you all for caring about my mental wellbeing and my time on earth so much but that wasn't the reason I came. I can only assume you have no reasonable debate to counter my argument against ssm. Vote no !

    Yes, let's get back on topic. You said you have experience in this area (I quoted you previously). Can you tell us about that experience and how it has informed your views on SSM?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    1123heavy wrote: »
    I have no idea what you are talking about (neither do you from what I can see).


    But you know all about same sex marriage and how it's a bad idea. Enlighten us young padewan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Oh ok, so it turns out I did my leaving cert last year and have only been legal a year, well I never ! Turns out I'm getting younger by the day :D


    Can we get back on topic. Thank you all for caring about my mental wellbeing and my time on earth so much but that wasn't the reason I came. I can only assume you have no reasonable debate to counter my argument against ssm. Vote no !

    Let us know when you developed an argument. You can probably make something up before the ban expires.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    i'll just leave this here..

    Originally Posted by 1123heavy View Post
    I'm sorry to break it to you, but the fact you have a gay child is symbolic of your failure as a parent. I would personally be embarrassed to know that I was responsible for raising offspring capable of such dispicible behaviour, never mind raise my head and feel confident enough to blurt it out all over public forums, people have no shame nowadays !

    As for the age, surely it's quite obvious I was trying to get at the fact younger people would be generally more aware of what is happening within the school system considering they are the ones who have just come throught it ?!?!?! Ain't that hard, love.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=93535618


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Hmmm...David75, by any chance, are you referring to someone who posted in the Dispute Resolution forum recently, complaining about being banned for trolling?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    are we allowd in there? never been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    david75 wrote: »
    are we allowd in there? never been.

    Yes, I'm just guessing that it's bad manners to post in there though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Might I suggest that everyone returned the leaflets to the place they cane from?

    Or, hand them to your local parish priest if they were handed out at a church.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Might I suggest that everyone returned the leaflets to the place they cane from?

    Or, hand them to your local parish priest if they were handed out at a church.

    Don't think there is much in terms of address or organisation on them.
    If I was to guess I would say a evangelical group in Mayo assuming that they are being sent around a few counties. Few catholic groups would spend the money. If it is just a local thing then it could still be from the catholics though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Wereghost


    It's either disingenuous or ignorant of these people to associate their views with Christianity. Unless I'm mistaken, the gospels give no mandate for this as the Biblical Jesus never says a word against homosexual unions. In fact, certain passages have been interpreted as indicating that he really had no problem with them:

    http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/gay_couple.html
    http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/born_gay.html.

    Not surprising for a 30ish unmarried male in first-century Judea. ;)


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