And it begins... (bigot brigade anti-SSM leaflets) - ### Mod Warning in 1st Post ###

lazygal

mrsbyrne wrote: »

One great girl gave my daughter and all her pals a demo. These girls these days are no shrinking violets.

How would gays getting married affect tampon demos???

Timberrrrrrrr

lazygal wrote: »

How would gays getting married affect tampon demos???

Well the gay lads would obviously stick in in the wrong hole! I mean duhhhhh they're gayyyyyyy they have never seen a vagina before

lazygal

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well the gay lads would obviously stick in in the wrong hole! I mean duhhhhh they're gayyyyyyy they have never seen a vagina before

Two gay wimmins would be brilliant at explaining menstruation. Demos and all. But some people want that to remain banned.

Baggy Trousers

Bloody hell mrsbyrne, I hope you are joking.

P_1

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Firstly you seem to have a thing about the Church?! Whats that about?
Secondly I would safely say that the periods tampons towels mooncup heavy flow light flow disposal of sanitary .protection, pain management PMT chat would definitely be more authentic coming from a woman as men, even gay men, simply cannot claim to have any personal experience in this matter, no?For example a man cannot physically demonstrate tampon insertion.

Now now, you wouldn't be advocating some sort of sodomy with that remerk now would you

Timberrrrrrrr

lazygal wrote: »

Two gay wimmins would be brilliant at explaining menstruation. Demos and all. But some people want that to remain banned.

Ah but they would be stumped when it comes to condoms

mrsbyrne

bodice ripper wrote: »

I didn't think catholic tenets superseded the Bible. That would make the religion even harder to take seriously.


What I am out to mock and scorn? My grandmother is a staunch catholic, and I worship the very ground she walks on. But even she knows that some ultra-religious people are ****ing thick. The people who are distributing this leaflet are ****ing thick. We are talking about the people who wrote this leaflet. These religious people are thick.

And speaking as someone subjected to the rather charming things nuns/teachers/priests have had to say about people like me when I was growing up, it is very hard to take religious people seriously when they complain about name calling.

It's not the pro-ssm side dragging catholicism into the debate - the church is doing that by sticking its oar in. I assure you, the yes side would prefer religion didn't come into it at all...

The tenets of any faith are the basic rules or guidelines. I find it hard to believe that you have apparently no knowledge of this. The Bible is like a witness account of the birth of Christianity. I know mocking the Bible necessitated endless hours of reading for people who otherwise profess to have no interest in belief. Strange carry on.

bodice ripper

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Ah but they would be stumped when it comes to condoms

Please tell me dads don't use their own penises to demonstrate how to put on a condom.

mrsbyrne

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Ah but they would be stumped when it comes to condoms

Not at all. A cucumber or a banana has always been just fine.

bodice ripper

mrsbyrne wrote: »

The tenets of any faith are the basic rules or guidelines. I find it hard to believe that you have apparently no knowledge of this. The Bible is like a witness account of the birth of Christianity. I know mocking the Bible necessitated endless hours of reading for people who otherwise profess to have no interest in belief. Strange carry on.

What are you even on about?

mrsbyrne

P_1 wrote: »

Now now, you wouldn't be advocating some sort of sodomy with that remerk now would you

Well an anus and a vagina bear absolutely no resemblance to one another in any way. Either internally or externally.

blacklilly

Anyone else perturbed the the faces of two children are beside the word sodomy. Did these children consent for their images to be used on such a leaflet. Oh silly me, children can't give consent so it must be ok then :rolleyes:

mrsbyrne

bodice ripper wrote: »

What are you even on about?

You were speculating about the tenets and the Bible?

mrsbyrne

Deenie123 wrote: »

Absolutely not. The instruction leaflet that comes with them is more than adequate!

mrsbyrne is clutching at straws.

A demonstration saves wasted time. And wasted tampons.

mrsbyrne

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

Bloody hell mrsbyrne, I hope you are joking.

I have a 17 year old daughter. You wouldmy believe the things I've seen and heard.its very dark.

bodice ripper

mrsbyrne wrote: »

You were speculating about the tenets and the Bible?

Sigh.

One more time.

The leadership of catholic church has been spewing bile about gay marriage for a long and well documented time now. If you object to catholicism being spoken about in reference to gay marriage, I suggest you take it up with them.

eviltwin

mrsbyrne wrote: »

A demonstration saves wasted time. And wasted tampons.

What has any of this got to do with SSM again?

bodice ripper

mrsbyrne wrote: »

A demonstration saves wasted time. And wasted tampons.

It was literally the only parenting task you could think of that absolutely required a vagina.

Annasopra

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Not at all. A cucumber or a banana has always been just fine.

Dont forget Tofu

bodice ripper

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I've tried making sense of this jumping around from tampons to bibles and back again and I still can't figure out what the everloving fuck it has to do with the issue at hand

Way back on page 8, shuirkan said they were entitled to think religious beliefs were thick, despite the fact that someone believed in them. Followed by hand wringing on the attack on religion generally, despite the fact that the thread has a concrete example being spoken about.

Deenie123

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I've tried making sense of this jumping around from tampons to bibles and back again and I still can't figure out what the everloving fuck it has to do with the issue at hand

Nothing. But if you can't argue your case properly, argue some other case and hope people don't notice that you haven't answered the question

hotmail.com

mrsbyrne wrote: »

I have a 17 year old daughter. You wouldmy believe the things I've seen and heard.its very dark.

You are giving us a great laugh tonight.

Beano

mrsbyrne wrote: »

Firstly you seem to have a thing about the Church?! Whats that about?
Secondly I would safely say that the periods tampons towels mooncup heavy flow light flow disposal of sanitary .protection, pain management PMT chat would definitely be more authentic coming from a woman as men, even gay men, simply cannot claim to have any personal experience in this matter, no?For example a man cannot physically demonstrate tampon insertion.

lack of knowledge doesnt seem to stop priests telling people who they should and should not be sleeping with.

david75

There has to be a way making this referendum and change to *the law* be a rational debate about the law and not dragged into the same tired old battlefield it becomes every time religion gets involved/ involves itself. In a perfect world I could say that marriage equality doesn't affect the No campaign(ers) whatsoever and they therefore should mind their own business( Much like the grannies and rosary brigade in the Abortion debate, it didnt affect them in any way yet we still have to deal with their BS dictating the terms and the outcome).

I wish we could steal this whole marriage equality debate back off the religious factions, allies and nut jobs alike. I know a lot of church going catholics that support SSM and equality but i guess we do offend and turn them off by engaging with the nutjobs and tarring them all with the one brush, via church/religion. we're letting them dictate the terms and make it a mudfight when it doesnt need to be and doesn't help our cause at all.

shruikan2553

bodice ripper wrote: »

Way back on page 8, shuirkan said they were entitled to think religious beliefs were thick, despite the fact that someone believed in them. Followed by hand wringing on the attack on religion generally, despite the fact that the thread has a concrete example being spoken about.

What I said was

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Anybodys beliefs are open season. Just because a book told you to think something doesn't make that belief anymore important.

I can believe prayer is the solution for illness so let's close down all hospitals and get rid of doctors. Doesn't mean other people can't call me thick.

That just because a belief was religious doesnt meant it should be immune from criticism anymore than any other belief. Gave an example of something that was obviously a bad idea and then said people could still call me thick for thinking that. I think I offended someone who thinks that all hospitals should be closed and replaced with praying for them to get better.

1123heavy

Vote No.

God forbid anyone of you shall have to give up a child to adoption in the future, how can you look yourself in the mirror knowing that you're creating the chance for that poor child to be raised by a same sex couple ? I shudder to think of the trauma it will cause the child and our future generations to come.

The future is in our hands, make the sensible decision and vote no. Gay people can do whatever they want between themselves, but they cannot and will not have our children !

shruikan2553

1123heavy wrote: »

Vote No.

God forbid anyone of you shall have to give up a child to adoption in the future, how can you look yourself in the mirror knowing that you're creating the chance for that poor child to be raised by a same sex couple ? I shudder to think of the trauma it will cause the child and our future generations to come.

The future is in our hands, make the sensible decision and vote no. Gay people can do whatever they want between themselves, but they cannot and will not have our children !

Someone with secret studies that go against the common conclusion of people who know what they are doing. Care to share?

eviltwin

1123heavy wrote: »

Vote No.

God forbid anyone of you shall have to give up a child to adoption in the future, how can you look yourself in the mirror knowing that you're creating the chance for that poor child to be raised by a same sex couple ? I shudder to think of the trauma it will cause the child and our future generations to come.

The future is in our hands, make the sensible decision and vote no. Gay people can do whatever they want between themselves, but they cannot and will not have our children !

They don't need to, they can have their own. And if I had a child adopted I'd have no issues at all with it being raised by a same sex couple. Better that than to be raised by homophobic bigots.

PopePalpatine

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Speaking as a Catholic priest, I'm looking forward to same sex marriage being legalised in this country.

As your pontiff, I'm OK with this. :pac:

Annasopra

david75 wrote: »

There has to be a way making this referendum and change to *the law* be a rational debate about the law and not dragged into the same tired old battlefield it becomes every time religion gets involved/ involves itself. In a perfect world I could say that marriage equality doesn't affect the No campaign(ers) whatsoever and they therefore should mind their own business( Much like the grannies and rosary brigade in the Abortion debate, it didnt affect them in any way yet we still have to deal with their BS dictating the terms and the outcome).

I wish we could steal this whole marriage equality debate back off the religious factions, allies and nut jobs alike. I know a lot of church going catholics that support SSM and equality but i guess we do offend and turn them off by engaging with the nutjobs and tarring them all with the one brush, via church/religion. we're letting them dictate the terms and make it a mudfight when it doesnt need to be and doesn't help our cause at all.

Well you could reframe the debate a bit


Point out what really hurts and undermines families; Spending cuts, tax increases, emigration, unemployment, childcare costd- these all undermine families and marriage. Marriage equality won't.

And why aren't you worried about those things, Mister Iona?