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  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭ripperman


    Anyone know if those machines (Outrun, Afterburner etc) are still in Bobs Casino? I know the owner sadly passed away last year. I was there late September, last time I was in Dublin and they only seemed to have Punch Out and Point Blank but maybe there's another section that was closed off? Just love to see those machines together in one space!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,195 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    It really hurts to see the PS Vita port of La Mulana EX get savaged in reviews by people that just don't understand the game :rolleyes:

    Or perhaps they simply did not like it (assuming you're talking about the lukewarm Eurogame review)? The 'they don't understand it' argument never factors in that we all tend to have completely different understanding of games anyway, and toys with the whole area of 'objective truth' in reviews.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,925 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    There was a complete failure to understand the game in that review, treating it like a hand holding metroidvania when the game is completely different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    There was a complete failure to understand the game in that review, treating it like a hand holding metroidvania when the game is completely different.
    Sigh. Can we please retire this term already? I'm just glad that FPS's these days are no longer called Doom clones.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    It's a useful term. It describes a very specific type of platform game with just one word.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    DinoRex wrote: »
    It's a useful term. It describes a very specific type of platform game with just one word.
    First Person Shooter is three words.

    I just dislike how lazy it sounds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Tomo.Murphy


    Could anyone recommend a Jamma power supply? I was looking at the one on arcadeworlduk, but it works out at €72ish with shipping with the dodgy currency rates lately.

    Sure when I was looking at Nightmare Busters last year it was working out at €60. Now that they have the stock and ready to ship it works out at €80. Fecking currency conversions...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,195 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    There was a complete failure to understand the game in that review, treating it like a hand holding metroidvania when the game is completely different.

    I didn't get that sense at all, I think he just highlighted Super Metroid as a comparison because of how subtly and elegantly the game guides the player. I don't think he's calling for total handholding, simply some extra guidance, however subtle. There's a very fine line between satisfyingly challenging and infuriatingly obtuse, and something like La Mulana sounds like it could be one or the other depending on the player - even with pen and paper ;) I know vague, obscure puzzles have killed my enjoyment of many games in the past (many a point and click). IMO if you end up reading a walkthrough and the response isn't "Ahhh! How didn't I get that?" and instead "how the **** was I meant to figure that out?!" then the designer has failed.
    Sigh. Can we please retire this term already? I'm just glad that FPS's these days are no longer called Doom clones.

    What would you call them then? Like Roguelike, it's simply a very efficient way of describing a game with a very particular set of skills features and characteristics.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,925 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well playing La Mulana and expecting to be subtly guided is the wrong way to approach the game. He also says it lends itself to short play sessions... He isn't playing the game I played because it's a game you pour over for hours at a time looking for solutions. There's mo real obtuse puzzles in the game either, all the clues are there it's just you've got to keep notes to keep track of them all. It's nothing like super metroid at all, it's an adventure in the purest sense where you're not subtly guided to each new power up. You have to work hard to make progress and figure out the games puzzles.

    It's pretty much a review on par with the Edge 6/10 reviews for gun star heroes or gta 3. I know reviews are merely opinions and opinions can't be wrong but they can be ill informed and stupid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    I saw it already, I like the 2 middle tops but was more excited about the fact they've Little Twin Stars merch than those. Very hard to find the stuff, word spread fast through the j fashion comms, like that episode of Father Ted
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    (Thanks for thinking of me)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Someone should make a gif of yer wan doing the whole floating across the floor thing :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    What would you call them then? Like Roguelike, it's simply a very efficient way of describing a game with a very particular set of skills features and characteristics.
    Still working on that. Emergent scrollers is what I'm thinking of right now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    A Doom clone, like Aliens Vs Predator, or was it a Wolfenstein clone?
    I forget.

    And I like Metroidvania as a title, it describes a lot with a fewer letters, I shall keep using it if that's ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    It was Wolfenstien clone... remember the level where you fight mecha-xenomorph-hitler?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    Myrddin wrote: »
    Someone should make a gif of yer wan doing the whole floating across the floor thing :p
    I was hoping to find her ringing everyone and the morse code, no, nothing, no gifs of her - heartbroken </3


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭safetyboy




  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    safetyboy wrote: »

    Going to try visit the pinball museum in SanFran later in the year,
    hopefully we get time :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,925 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    There's been some more Lucasarts releases on GoG today but two of them are biggies since they have not been made available in years. The first is Indiana Jones and the Emporers Tomb, a superior Tomb Raider clone. The next is Outlaws which was ignored on release for using the Dark Forces engine when Quake 2 and Unreal where the big thing but it's a fantastically designed FPS with an excellent old west storyline.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Tomo.Murphy



    Thanks for the reply :-)

    Is all of that stuff really necessary? It looks like something a mad scientist would put together, ha


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    There's been some more Lucasarts releases on GoG today but two of them are biggies since they have not been made available in years. The first is Indiana Jones and the Emporers Tomb, a superior Tomb Raider clone. The next is Outlaws which was ignored on release for using the Dark Forces engine when Quake 2 and Unreal where the big thing but it's a fantastically designed FPS with an excellent old west storyline.

    Outlaws was fantastic. Just had an amazing feel to it... Wonder how it holds up.

    They also have Loom on there which is probably my most favourite graphic adventure game of all time.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,925 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Loom is good but it's been on Steam for a long time. I think this might be the first time Zak McKraken has been available in years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    Zak McKraken is not that great of a game.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,195 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


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    Some great deals on Doubleshocks in Bray everybody!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Myrddin wrote: »
    Interesting vid here on the history of Wolfenstein


    Pt. 2 up :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Tomo.Murphy


    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/16A-Arcade-Switching-Power-Supply-110-220V-Jamma-Multicade-8-Liner-Arcade-Game-/191214443836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c8544dd3c

    Would something like this work, and if I was to buy one how exactly does it connect to a wall socket? :confused:

    At the minute I'm guessing you cut up a power cord of some sort and connect it to the bottom 3 terminals?

    I'm basically just looking for something I can connect to a Supergun for now, then use with a jamma harness down the line if I wanted to do it properly. I would prefer if it was discrete as it'll be connected to a TV for the time being. I probably would go with the other type if I was putting it in a cab straight away though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/16A-Arcade-Switching-Power-Supply-110-220V-Jamma-Multicade-8-Liner-Arcade-Game-/191214443836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c8544dd3c

    Would something like this work, and if I was to buy one how exactly does it connect to a wall socket? :confused:

    At the minute I'm guessing you cut up a power cord of some sort and connect it to the bottom 3 terminals?

    I'm basically just looking for something I can connect to a Supergun for now, then use with a jamma harness down the line if I wanted to do it properly. I would prefer if it was discrete as it'll be connected to a TV for the time being. I probably would go with the other type if I was putting it in a cab straight away though.

    Thats exactly how you connect it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,719 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Yep thats it. The thing I really don't like about those is the fact the the mains voltage is exposed which is never a good thing.

    If you do get one of these then either stick it it a case or cover those terminals with plenty of hotglue to insulate them.


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