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I'm a model and not thin, does that make me unattractive?
Seriously?
How many more times are you going to criticise other people for being superficial, then mention you went from a size 8 to 16 and back, mention you're a model (aaagain), and then proclaim that you're "not thin", and ask does that mean you're unattractive?
If you're a size 8 and you're trying to say you're not thin, I can only assume you're about two foot tall.
Stand up on the bed there and I get a look at ya!
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No what I said was "That's all very well if you're middle aged and beyond, but short of illnesses and medical conditions, your average person shouldn't look that much different at 40 than they did at 20, certainly not in body size anyway.@Wibbs....Most people look the same(or practically as you near enough put it)at 40 as they do at 20???
Give over mate, thats an utterly ridiculous thing to say.
I'm not in bad nick for my age (almost 40 but was told I looked about 28 when I was out the other night :cool:) but there isnt a chance in hell that I look the same as I did at 20(sadly :P)
If humans did, well there would be no need for the Billion dollar cosmetic surgery industry
And I would stand by that. Of course people age and some age at different rates(sun damage, baldness etc), but I would stand by my opinion that physically there's no good reason outside of illness or a medical condition where someone, especially a man, shouldn't be the same size at 40(or 50 for that matter) as he was at 20. There's certainly no biological impediment to it. As I pointed out a mans testosterone should only be dropping by 1% per year after 30. In other words feck all. I know quite a few blokes who stayed pretty much the same size in that period. Some are fitness types, some are not, but none were/are big eaters. Hell I take the exact same clothes sizes at 48 I did at 20 and I'm no gymist type(if I was I'd be in better shape, especially internally).Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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No what I said was "That's all very well if you're middle aged and beyond, but short of illnesses and medical conditions, your average person shouldn't look that much different at 40 than they did at 20, certainly not in body size anyway.
And I would stand by that. Of course people age and some age at different rates(sun damage, baldness etc), but I would stand by my opinion that physically there's no good reason outside of illness or a medical condition where someone, especially a man, shouldn't be the same size at 40(or 50 for that matter) as he was at 20. There's certainly no biological impediment to it. As I pointed out a mans testosterone should only be dropping by 1% per year after 30. In other words feck all. I know quite a few blokes who stayed pretty much the same size in that period. Some are fitness types, some are not, but none were/are big eaters. Hell I take the exact same clothes sizes at 48 I did at 20 and I'm no gymist type(if I was I'd be in better shape, especially internally).
And that means that facially you shouldn't look that much different as you then put in brackets "certainly not in body size".
You phrased it that way and not me. And because you know a "few" people whose weight hasn't changed, well thats just a couple of people you know. Not exactly a real solid to go on, is it?
Look, you may stand by your opinion and thats fine. Its your to have.
But the rest of the world knows that NO-ONE either facial or in their body looks the same at 40 as they do at 20.
They may take the same size clothes as they did. That I can agree with.
Whats under the clothes?
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And that means that facially you shouldn't look that much different as you then put in brackets "certainly not in body size".
You phrased it that way and not me. And because you know a "few" people whose weight hasn't changed, well thats just a couple of people you know. Not exactly a real solid to go on, is it?
Look, you may stand by your opinion and thats fine. Its your to have.
But the rest of the world knows that NO-ONE either facial or in their body looks the same at 40 as they do at 20.
They may take the same size clothes as they did. That I can agree with.
Whats under the clothes?
A human body that has aged 20 years
I'm 30 and have a better body now than at 20, and I was fairly lean and athletic at 20. The difference is I go to the gym more now and have improved my diet. I fully expect to look as well or better at 40.0 -
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Maybe you're hard of reading and that's fine, but I never said facially.And that means that facially you shouldn't look that much different as you then put in brackets "certainly not in body size".
You phrased it that way and not me.
It means it's doable and was more doable in days gone by, when there were fewer couch potatoes.And because you know a "few" people whose weight hasn't changed, well thats just a couple of people you know. Not exactly a real solid to go on, is it?
Well that's a novel approach, I must say.Look, you may stand by your opinion and thats fine. Its your to have.
Nope. Try not projecting your own physical decay onto others. I hate to break it to you, but under the clothes is fine, the same as back then. If anything I've more definition in the chest(for some odd reason. And less hair on the legs, but more on the chest. Eh WTF?). Facially, I have no wrinkles, no crows feet etc yet. Still have the hair on my head, though greying. Do I look 20? Hell no, but I'm in better nick than many and anyone who hadn't seen me in 20 years wouldn't exactly get a shock.But the rest of the world knows that NO-ONE either facial or in their body looks the same at 40 as they do at 20.
They may take the same size clothes as they did. That I can agree with.
Whats under the clothes?
A human body that has aged 20 years
And that's me, someone who doesn't exactly cross the thresholds of gyms. In fairness I am lucky genetically, coming from a line where the men outlive the women and hit 90+ with a smattering of century types in there too(the deal seems to be marry a good woman at least ten years your junior and have a small appetite).
As Shabra noted, with work one could improve even more. If I did have a mild stroke that made me a physical jerks gym bunny type(against my better judgment), I'd end up with a bod way better than it was at 20.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Maybe you're hard of reading and that's fine, but I never said facially. It means it's doable and was more doable in days gone by, when there were fewer couch potatoes.
Well that's a novel approach, I must say.
Nope. I hate to break it to you, but under the clothes is fine, the same as back then. If anything I've more definition in the chest(for some odd reason. And less hair on the legs, but more on the chest. Eh WTF?). Facially, I have no wrinkles, no crows feet etc yet. Still have the hair on my head, though greying. Do I look 20? Hell no, but I'm in better nick than many and anyone who hadn't seen me in 20 years wouldn't exactly get a shock.
And that's me, someone who doesn't exactly cross the thresholds of gyms. Im just lucky genetically, coming from a line where the men outlive the women and hit 90+ with a smattering of century types in there too(the deal seems to be marry a good woman at least ten years your junior and have a small appetite).
As Shabra noted, with work one could improve even more. If I did have a mild stroke that made me a physical jerks gym bunny type(against my better judgment), I'd end up with a bod way better than it was at 20.
Facially is implied when you say "Certainly not in body size" but as its Xmas I have no intention of arguing the point that no-one on the planet could look the same in their 40's as they do in their 20's(its a physical impossibility).
I suggest if you know people who look like that, you are onto a goldmine selling them off to geneticists for scientific research into the ages long pursuit for the "Fountain of Youth"
I think what you mean is YOU look in your opinion, better than you did at 20.
Good for you if you feel like that. lifes too short.
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No really? You think? That's not the issue, the issue is those who fall apart and get middle aged spread at 25, 30. And that is preventable. As I clearly said, no way in hell would I be mistaken for 20, I am the age I am and TBH wouldn't like to be thought of as younger, I've earned the years, but they sit better on me than many. And as I have said this goes triple for men. Outside of medical issues, they've feck all excuse for porking up and slacking.Hello, physical decay.
Even without wrinkles, you will look much older at 40 than 20. The skin isn't as glowing and just has a quality to it that looks much duller.
Maybe, if english isn't your first language. Seriously, how the hell does one conflate "body size" with facial aging? No really? I think my original take of "hard of reading" may be in play here.Facially is implied when you say "Certainly not in body size"
Drop the literalism for a second, if you can and try reading what I actually wrote.but as its Xmas I have no intention of arguing the point that no-one on the planet could look the same in their 40's as they do in their 20's(its a physical impossibility).
I suggest if you know people who look like that, you are onto a goldmine selling them off to geneticists for scientific research into the ages long pursuit for the "Fountain of Youth"
Again, I didn't say that. I'm really wondering about reading ability here, or more reading what one wants to read stuff going on.I think what you mean is YOU look in your opinion, better than you did at 20.
Not for me, I'll likely see the century *jinx*Good for you if you feel like that. lifes too short.
Actually life goes so damned slowly for me. When folks say "doesn't time fly" I think "I wish it did". I feel well over a hundred as it is.
Thanks and you too, Ted, Happy Christmas/Xmas/Festivus/Holidays/Solstice/Hanukah/Kwanzaa/Other and may you and yours be happy and healthy and ready to face the new year.Anyway, enjoy Xmas
*EDIT* good example IMHO.
Do they look "20"? No, not even close. Do they look and act like pensioners? Hell no. Jagger(who I can't stand personally) is an extremely physical and healthy bloke and he's a pensioner. And you have some 25 year olds whinging about feeling old and acting old? GT everliving FO. IMHO anyway.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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No really? You think? That's not the issue, the issue is those who fall apart and get middle aged spread at 25, 30. And that is preventable. As I clearly said, no way in hell would I be mistaken for 20, I am the age I am and TBH wouldn't like to be thought of as younger, I've earned the years, but they sit better on me than many. And as I have said this goes triple for men. Outside of medical issues, they've feck all excuse for porking up and slacking.
Maybe, if english isn't your first language. Seriously, how the hell does one conflate "body size" with facial aging? No really? I think my original take of "hard of reading" may be in play here. Drop the literalism for a second, if you can and try reading what I actually wrote.
I suggest if you know people who look like that, you are onto a goldmine selling them off to geneticists for scientific research into the ages long pursuit for the "Fountain of Youth"
Again, I didn't say that. I'm really wondering about reading ability here, or more reading what one wants to read stuff going on.
Not for me, I'll likely see the century *jinx* Actually life goes so damned slowly for me. When folks say "doesn't time fly" I think "I wish it did". I feel well over a hundred as it is.
Thanks and you too, Ted, Happy Christmas/Xmas/Festivus/Holidays/Solstice/Hanukah/Kwanzaa/Other and may you and yours be happy and healthy and ready to face the new year.
Jeez, Wibbs..the condescension and passive aggression are palpable in the above. I does be read pefeck well dho
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Yep, no argument there(as if there ever was one, beyond the aspy literalism), but you can look better and far better than the nowadays all to average middle aged man and woman, never mind the podgy 25 year olds. It's actually not about trying to look 20, it's about trying to look the best 40 and 50 and 60, hell, even 70 year old you can be.Better, maybe.
But at 40, you wont look 20
For the nerdists out there, consider Patrick Stewart. Captain of the Trekkies and all that onanistic guff, but he has stayed very stable in how he looks for most of his adult life. The man is now a pensioner and still looks pretty damned OK. And he had the baldy thing going on from a very early age. He still remained viable, alive, in the moment and he still does. IIRC his girlfriend is quite a bit younger than him. Sure the fame and all that is a biggie, a huge biggie, but he's still in the game as a pensioner.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Yep, no argument there(as if there ever was one, beyond the aspy literalism), but you can look better and far better than the nowadays all to average middle aged man and woman, never mind the podgy 25 year olds. It's actually not about trying to look 20, it's about trying to look the best 40 and 50 and 60, hell, even 70 year old you can be.
For the nerdists out there, consider Patrick Stewart. Captain of the Trekkies and all that onanistic guff, but he has stayed very stable in how he looks for most of his adult life. The man is now a pensioner and still looks pretty damned OK. And he had the baldy thing going on from a very early age. He still remained viable, alive, in the moment and he still does. IIRC his girlfriend is quite a bit younger than him. Sure the fame and all that is a biggie, a huge biggie, but he's still in the game as a pensioner.
And you don't think he has had work done?
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Age hasn't mellowed you has it?:P Guilty as charged S. 
:pac: Actually S, IMH that right there makes a big diff. "Mellow" too often means giving in and giving up, because it's easy. "Oh I've seen this before, therefore it's all nonsense" thinking. The curse and blessing of youth is to find oneself constantly surprised, pissed off and reactionary against what one sees as "the old way". The curse of the old is to think they know all and there's no blessing involved. Well one blessing and curse it to forget what it was to question whatever status quo was in place. They say youth is wasted on the young, I'd go further and say that middle and old age is way too often wasted on the old. Who after all should know better. Unlike the callow youth, the older have no excuses at all. Any stupidity and lack of foresight, hindsight and wisdom is theirs for the taking. The young have no such wellspring to draw from.
The older I get, the more I begin to see that the otherwise daft 1960's hippie BS may actually have a point; don't trust anyone over 30. Unless they've shown their minds are still open and open to new experiences as well as the wisdom gleaned from old experiences.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Maybe you're hard of reading and that's fine, but I never said facially. It means it's doable and was more doable in days gone by, when there were fewer couch potatoes.
Well that's a novel approach, I must say.
Nope. Try not projecting your own physical decay onto others. I hate to break it to you, but under the clothes is fine, the same as back then. If anything I've more definition in the chest(for some odd reason. And less hair on the legs, but more on the chest. Eh WTF?). Facially, I have no wrinkles, no crows feet etc yet. Still have the hair on my head, though greying. Do I look 20? Hell no, but I'm in better nick than many and anyone who hadn't seen me in 20 years wouldn't exactly get a shock.
And that's me, someone who doesn't exactly cross the thresholds of gyms. In fairness I am lucky genetically, coming from a line where the men outlive the women and hit 90+ with a smattering of century types in there too(the deal seems to be marry a good woman at least ten years your junior and have a small appetite).
As Shabra noted, with work one could improve even more. If I did have a mild stroke that made me a physical jerks gym bunny type(against my better judgment), I'd end up with a bod way better than it was at 20.
Also, just to say this bit gave me a lol
Helluva leap there Wibbs, helluva leap. :cool:0 -
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Guilty as charged S. :pac: Actually S, IMH that right there makes a big diff. "Mellow" too often means giving in and giving up, because it's easy. "Oh I've seen this before, therefore it's all nonsense" thinking. The curse and blessing of youth is to find oneself constantly surprised, pissed off and reactionary against what one sees as "the old way". The curse of the old is to think they know all and there's no blessing involved. Well one blessing and curse it to forget what it was to question whatever status quo was in place. They say youth is wasted on the young, I'd go further and say that middle and old age is way too often wasted on the old. Who after all should know better. Unlike the callow youth, the older have no excuses at all. Any stupidity and lack of foresight, hindsight and wisdom is theirs for the taking. The young have no such wellspring to draw from.
The older I get, the more I begin to see that the otherwise daft 1960's hippie BS may actually have a point; don't trust anyone over 30. Unless they've shown their minds are still open and open to new experiences as well as the wisdom gleaned from old experiences.
I suppose mellow means different things to different people.
I would use it about myself though.
I look back at my 20yr old self and think "Jesus, you were a right pain in the ar5s"
Hothead and feckless. Never faithful and careless with others emotions.
Opinionated and rigid. Being as hot as hell got me out of a lot of trouble:P
Now, I embrace "Meh"
If someone really boils my pi5s, instead of losing the plot and holding a grudge now I just reckon "Not worth my energy" and move on.
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Maybe S, but no amount of botox and similar shíte could make him that vigourous.
Ah but that's not exactly what you said though is it?
"he has stayed very stable in how he looks for most of his adult life. The man is now a pensioner and still looks pretty damned OK."
Looks and vitality.....2 separate things entirely.0 -
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