Seems like a good deal on coal....

OmegaGene

my3cents wrote: »

But what is stove coal? imo any coal that isn't smokeless isn't stove coal. Also again imo anything branded stove coal tends to be cheap rubbish. I can't say that every brand sold as stove coal is useless but its never going to produce as much heat as say ovoids or anthracite.

Ovoids fall into the bracket of stove coal at most fuel merchants
So do all the anthracite

OmegaGene

Nettle wrote: »

Sorry I should have said it is a stove coal that I am burning in it.

If you put wood on top of the likes of ovoids it will make the ovoids burn quicker and crumble from my experience
To use up my stock pile of wood I wait until I just have embers left and throw on a block or two of wood towards the end of the night if it’s not too cold

my3cents

OmegaGene wrote: »

Ovoids fall into the bracket of stove coal at most fuel merchants
So do all the anthracite

You can also get what some suppliers just call "Stove Coal" no idea what it is but it can be rubbish and I was concerned that might be the sort of thing that Nettle was burning.

Also a good chance that the boiler is maxed out on rads so is having to work too hard to heat them.

OmegaGene

my3cents wrote: »

You can also get what some suppliers just call "Stove Coal" no idea what it is but it can be rubbish and I was concerned that might be the sort of thing that Nettle was burning.

Also a good chance that the boiler is maxed out on rads so is having to work too hard to heat them.

Oh the bags that just say stove coal would be pure muck
The decent branded ovoids etc are well worth the money

Irishs12

OmegaGene wrote: »

Oh the bags that just say stove coal would be pure muck
The decent branded ovoids etc are well worth the money

Generally 'STOVE COAL' is just overpriced polish doubles.
You are dead right about the branded ovoids,way better.

bigron2109

Interesting last couple of posts. I’ve always burned Ovoids in my duel fuel stove . I’d start the fire off with some sticks , fire lighters , B Cosy briquettes and some hard wood and then when it heats up I throw the ovids on.

Is that the best way to be doing it or am I doing something wrong? Open to suggestions as I’m still learning with the stove . It’s a big 30km one which has a back boiler.

I use the EasyGlow Ovoids .

Kat1170

Am I missing some easy way to open the bags of coal. I run a knife along the stitching but every now and then it goes astray and make it a pain to empty the bag into buckets.

my3cents

Kat1170 wrote: »

Am I missing some easy way to open the bags of coal. I run a knife along the stitching but every now and then it goes astray and make it a pain to empty the bag into buckets.

Looking at the writing on the bag if you just cut then end off on your left and then pull the end then the stitching will just unstitch.

Its a knack and you often have to pick out a couple of stitches and then find the end to pull for it to open easily but worth the effort.

Now the bag could have gone through the machine the wrong way but normally the left hand end as you are facing the writing on the bag is the right one. If that fails try the other end.

OmegaGene

Kat1170 wrote: »

Am I missing some easy way to open the bags of coal. I run a knife along the stitching but every now and then it goes astray and make it a pain to empty the bag into buckets.

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.instructables.com/id/Opening-a-string-sealed-bag-without-scissors/%3famp_page=true

my3cents

OmegaGene wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.instructables.com/id/Opening-a-string-sealed-bag-without-scissors/%3famp_page=true

I find it easier to cut the excess off then find the end again at the end of the first stitch.

OmegaGene

my3cents wrote: »

I find it easier to cut the excess off then find the end again at the end of the first stitch.

It’s an option if you can’t find anything to cut it with

Nettle

my3cents wrote:

But what is stove coal? imo any coal that isn't smokeless isn't stove coal. Also again imo anything branded stove coal tends to be cheap rubbish. I can't say that every brand sold as stove coal is useless but its never going to produce as much heat as say ovoids or anthracite.

It is a smokeless coal or ovoids think it is hayes I was burning Stafford stove coal but found it wasn't the best.

my3cents

Nettle wrote: »

It is a smokeless coal or ovoids think it is hayes I was burning Stafford stove coal but found it wasn't the best.

You have the right fuel so try switching off some rads to see if the problem is just too many for the size of boiler.

Irishs12

bigron2109 wrote: »

Interesting last couple of posts. I’ve always burned Ovoids in my duel fuel stove . I’d start the fire off with some sticks , fire lighters , B Cosy briquettes and some hard wood and then when it heats up I throw the ovids on.

Is that the best way to be doing it or am I doing something wrong? Open to suggestions as I’m still learning with the stove . It’s a big 30km one which has a back boiler.

I use the EasyGlow Ovoids .

Every stove is different,and yours has a large fire box which could use a lot of fuel.
I would try supertherm,lit only with dry kindling. You can buy supertherm in most hardware shops by the bag so you don't need to buy a lot to give it a go.
It's really easy to light and heats quickly but burns for a reasonably long time,very good if you aren't running your stove 24 hours a day.

It's all experimenting to find what suits your setup the best,so try a few types of ovoids as they are all slightly different.

I've tried the easyglow ovoids and they would not be my first choice tbh.

Anthracite is only an option if your stove is able to run It,and should not be used in most stoves as it will melt the grate.

my3cents

I've never seen a melted grate but I've seen a few burnt out prematurely if thats what you mean.

However I don't think anthracite gets too hot its too much pet coke in a mix that does the damage to stoves.

OmegaGene

my3cents wrote: »

I've never seen a melted grate but I've seen a few burnt out prematurely if thats what you mean.

However I don't think anthracite gets too hot its too much pet coke in a mix that does the damage to stoves.

I’ve had a melted grate from premium Colombian coal
It was so hot we had windows open lol

Irishs12

Nettle wrote: »

Can I ask where you got them? I have the exact same stove as you and I don't know what i am doing wrong with it but I seem to be going through a serious amount of coal and wood but once I let the stove out the heat goes pretty quick from the rads

If you have a pipe thermostat on the top pipe coming out of the stove then try turning it down,if it's gone wrong then it may be turning the pump on at too high a temp. This will cause your stove to overheat everything except the rads and will make it struggle.
Normally it should be set to 50°c if it's working correctly.

my3cents

OmegaGene wrote: »

I’ve had a melted grate from premium Colombian coal
It was so hot we had windows open lol

Then you were doing something wrong perhaps next time don't use so much

OmegaGene

my3cents wrote: »

Then you were doing something wrong perhaps next time don't use so much

Don’t use it at all now the ovoids are more consistent and cleaner
The Colombian coal I was using also melted a friends open fire grate it was really good stuff

Irishs12

my3cents wrote: »

I've never seen a melted grate but I've seen a few burnt out prematurely if thats what you mean.

However I don't think anthracite gets too hot its too much pet coke in a mix that does the damage to stoves.

Whilst being difficult to get to burn properly,if anthracite is fed enough air then it's the hottest burning natural coal of all and can literally melt the inside of a stove and it's not recommended for most types of stove as a result.

Petcoke is not recommended for any stoves,and is way too hot to be safe.

my3cents

Irishs12 wrote: »

Whilst being difficult to get to burn properly,if anthracite is fed enough air then it's the hottest burning natural coal of all and can literally melt the inside of a stove and it's not recommended for most types of stove as a result.

Petcoke is not recommended for any stoves,and is way too hot to be safe.

What do you think is the major constituent of Ovoids? Anthracite is expensive pet coke is cheap the answer isn't that difficult.

Check manuals for most if not all Waterford Stanley stoves and you'll find Anthracite as a recommended fuel.

eg http://www.waterfordstanley.com/stanley-stoves/stanley-stoves/room-heating/solid-fuel/oisin-stove

Burns anthracite, coal, smokeless fuel, seasoned peat briquettes and dried wood - Do not use high moisture content fuels as they will affect performance & damage the unit. Our grates are made from high chromium which are able to withstand higher temperatures from smokeless coal.

Irishs12

my3cents wrote: »

What do you think is the major constituent of Ovoids? Anthracite is expensive pet coke is cheap the answer isn't that difficult.

Check manuals for most if not all Waterford Stanley stoves and you'll find Anthracite as a recommended fuel.

eg http://www.waterfordstanley.com/stanley-stoves/stanley-stoves/room-heating/solid-fuel/oisin-stove

Waterford Stanley stoves are a premium brand stove that come with high temperature grates,as I said,check if your stove can burn it.

Nettle

my3cents wrote:

You have the right fuel so try switching off some rads to see if the problem is just too many for the size of boiler.

I actually have a bigger stove than I need. I have 10 rads working off it. I turned off the road in the room with the stove as it was over kill.

Nettle

I don't have a top pipe. I have one pipe that comes out of the bottom left hand side. I have never seen a thermostat but I will have a look when I get home tomorrow thanks

joebloggs32

I'm not on facebook. Can someone post the current price for avoids. Also what is their phone number.
Thanks in Advance

rebeve

Having an ash tree cut down , how long before It could be burned in a stove

deisedav

rebeve wrote: »

Having an ash tree cut down , how long before It could be burned in a stove

A good year in the right. Ash is reasonably low in moisture

deisedav

A good year in the right conditions

my3cents

rebeve wrote: »

Having an ash tree cut down , how long before It could be burned in a stove

The good news is that you can burn ash straight away. The bad news is that you should still wait and let it dry out.

While it will burn you are still wasting heat evaporating water and the water will in turn will do your stove no good.

Minimum a year for drying but ideally two or more.

Yester

joebloggs32 wrote: »

I'm not on facebook. Can someone post the current price for avoids. Also what is their phone number.
Thanks in Advance

This is the latest one I can see. From the 5th Dec.
Slack - €130 per tonne
Singles - €155 per tonne
Polish - €195 per tonne
Black diamond €225 per tonne
Doubles - €195 per tonne
Columbian Doubles €225 per tonne
Columbian Coal - €250 per tonne
Union Nuggets - €250 per tonne
smokeless ovoids - €280 per tonne
Country blend - €280 per tonne
Clearflame - €280 per tonne


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