Cross on Carauntoohill had been cut down

the_syco · 22-11-2014 6:01pm

Allyall wrote: »

At the time it was erected, Ireland was a very Catholic Country, as time went on, it stood as reminder of our past.

As per the part i bolded; by the same logic that it went up, it's come down because Ireland is no longer a very catholic country.

Allyall wrote: »

Are they going to go and cut down all the crosses in Glendalough because they don't agree with them?

AFAIK, Glendalough is a monastery/holy place, whereas this was on top of a random mountain.

One of the commenters of the article had a good point;

We do not know what terrors the perpetrators may have suffered at the hands of the Catholic Church. ‘Judge not lest ye be judged’ Matthew 7:1-3

Climbing a mountain only to come across something you're trying to escape could lead someone to do this.

hmmm wrote: »

but when something has been up there long enough it becomes part of what the mountain is, and part of our heritage.

Abuse by the RCC is part of heritage?

FrStone wrote: »

So you are suggesting we can destroy anything we don't agree with in a public area, if it is less than 2000 years old.

Well, priest, since you mentioned it, yeah. There's a few churches that need knocking, as the RCC hasn't footed its share of the bill for the abuse.

Saipanne wrote: »

And don't start that "recognised religion" pseudo Nazi crap...

Perhaps a swastika? Like the cross, it's a symbol of torture and death... :pac:

BlatentCheek wrote: »

Offending peoples' traditional values to show how right-on you are is just childish posturing.

Not sure if you're on about the RCC or the atheists?

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It's a f**king morbid reminder of our past. I am however surprised they just left it there. Or perhaps that was part of the message?

mcmoustache · 22-11-2014 6:03pm

SpaceTime wrote: »

Emm.. no, I was just trying to say it was metal fatigue. We have this thing called 'science' nowadays that explain the reasons for such things.

Science requires knowledge, a curious mind and an ability to look at problems logically and objectively. That's hard. It's much easier to say "God did it". When you remove mystery from the world by using God as an explanation for everything, you can free up your mind to concentrate on the important things in life - mumbling to yourself while fiddling with beads, sitting, standing, sitting, standing, kneeling, standing, eating wafers, kneeling again, eating roast beef, watching Coronation St Omnibus and hating gays. Who wouldn't want that?

SpaceTime · 22-11-2014 6:05pm

It's actually very poor journalism from RTE

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1122/661730-cross/

"Iconic cross on Carrauntoohil cut down"

There's absolutely no evidence as yet that it was cut. All we know is that it's 'down', how it got down is still unexplained.

kylith · 22-11-2014 6:06pm

SpaceTime wrote: »

One last post (just did about 3 seconds worth of Google image searching)

There's a square lighting pole suffering from metal fatigue due to wind induced vibrations / harmonics etc.

http://polescentral.acuitybrands.com/Images/pdf%20images/wind_loading_harmonics___Wind_Induced_Vibrations_I_2.jpg

Look similar to you?!

That's not at a weld either, it's just the point on the pole where the load is highest.

I think your culprit is the wind!
So, I guess you'll have to immediately charge Mother Nature with Blasphemy.

Also, there's actually a site called Poles Central entirely dedicated to the latest news on metal poles LOL ... totally Father Ted stuff!

By gum, I hope they investigate and find out that that's what did it. I wonder then what all the outraged holy Joes would say if it turned out that their god had knocked it down.

SpaceTime · 22-11-2014 6:07pm

kylith wrote: »

By gum, I hope they investigate and find out that that's what did it. I wonder then what all the outraged holy Joes would say if it turned out that their god had knocked it down.

You rarely get more than a 35 year warranty on any cross kit these days. Unless you take out the special CrossInsure+ option.

I bet they didn't think of that.

It's all a big inbuilt obsolescence scam by the cross industry!

Cantremember · 22-11-2014 6:08pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

i wonder when our post catholic hangover will dissipate

If we were properly post Catholic we would be post religion and wouldn't describe that as a hangover.

Cantremember · 22-11-2014 6:14pm

crockholm wrote: »

Silly post tbh.Going by your last sentence you would also be advocating the removal of the cairns on the top of the "Paps" Mountains as they are associated with the goddess Danu.

I'm comfortable enough in my agnosticism to have never been offended by the cross up there.

The cross should be restored,and if people wish to see it removed then write to Kerry County Council,the OPW,Heritage council whatever relevant authority and remove it via mandate.

Silly post tbh. You're a Christian fooling yourself and no one else that you're an agnostic.

SpaceTime · 22-11-2014 6:14pm

Here's what happened to the last county that tried to take legal action against Mother Nature for the breaking of mobile phone masts and crosses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oowDvy-wtj4

Cee-Jay-Cee · 22-11-2014 6:19pm

Where the fcuk is Carauntoohill?

SpaceTime · 22-11-2014 6:19pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Where the fcuk is Carauntoohill?

Right next to Carauntoohill.

It has alternative spellings and it's just hard to spell too

I actually saw it spelled as "Carontwohills" once.

Saipanne · 22-11-2014 6:20pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Where the fcuk is Carauntoohill?

Get out.

Inquitus · 22-11-2014 6:22pm

SpaceTime wrote: »

One last post (just did about 3 seconds worth of Google image searching)

There's a square lighting pole suffering from metal fatigue due to wind induced vibrations / harmonics etc.

http://polescentral.acuitybrands.com/Images/pdf%20images/wind_loading_harmonics___Wind_Induced_Vibrations_I_2.jpg

Look similar to you?!

That's not at a weld either, it's just the point on the pole where the load is highest.

I think your culprit is the wind!
So, I guess you'll have to immediately charge Mother Nature with Blasphemy.

Also, there's actually a site called Poles Central entirely dedicated to the latest news on metal poles LOL ... totally Father Ted stuff!

If you look at the cut close up it is uneven, looks like an angle grinder to be fair, but interesting picture and definitely a possibility.

mikemac1 · 22-11-2014 6:23pm

Probably the Kerry branch of ISIS. They are radicals like their Dublin brothers

riffmongous · 22-11-2014 6:25pm

I'm pretty sure it's private land, it's all owned by farmers.

Saipanne · 22-11-2014 6:30pm

riffmongous wrote: »

I'm pretty sure it's private land, it's all owned by farmers.

I think so. I've hiked quite a bit around Ireland, its always private land.

o1s1n · 22-11-2014 6:32pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

So, I guess that what you're trying to say is that God did it?
This is the most likely explanation, imho.

SpaceTime wrote: »

Emm.. no, I was just trying to say it was metal fatigue. We have this thing called 'science' nowadays that explain the reasons for such things.

Gave me quite a chuckle

crockholm · 22-11-2014 6:48pm

Cantremember wrote: »

Silly post tbh. You're a Christian fooling yourself and no one else that you're an agnostic.

You either know me better than I know myself,or you don't know your arse from your elbow.

I know where I'd be placing my bets.

jgorres · 22-11-2014 7:08pm

SpaceTime wrote: »

I'd just add if it was just a structural flaw, it's a very good thing it did fall down uneventfully as it could have come crashing down on tourists / pilgrims!

Here, a guy was not so lucky. Maybe it happened due to corroded nails.

thegreatgonzo · 22-11-2014 7:13pm

I've climbed it twice, and I've climbed lots of other hills and mountains with people of all faiths and none. When you see the cross on the summit approaching, everyone's spirits lift, regardless of how they feel about crosses or religion or any of it. Whoever took that cross just stole a bit of that rare feeling you get when you get to the summit. That's all they've achieved, vandalism of a special place.

CrazyRabbit · 22-11-2014 7:14pm

mikemac1 wrote: »

Probably the Kerry branch of ISIS. They are radicals like their Dublin brothers

And everyone laughed at that TD...

braddun · 22-11-2014 7:17pm

they need to put the spike that's in Dublin up there

much better looking

FrStone · 22-11-2014 7:28pm

Molester Stallone II wrote: »

Any planning permission sweetie?

Hahaha! That's very funny. Planning permission regulations have increased hugely in recent years. There was no requirement in 1976 to apply for that structure.

Molester Stallone II · 22-11-2014 7:30pm

FrStone wrote: »

Hahaha! That's very funny. Planning permission regulations have increased hugely in recent years. There was no requirement in 1976 to apply for that structure.

And ipso facto, it has no history and no reason or necessity for it to be there, bye bye

MRnotlob606 · 22-11-2014 7:33pm

Should of kept it there. Scumbags.

Cantremember · 22-11-2014 7:40pm

crockholm wrote: »

You either know me better than I know myself,or you don't know your arse from your elbow.

I know where I'd be placing my bets.

You are confused about what it means to be an agnostic. That's all.

Son Of A Vidic · 22-11-2014 7:44pm

The world would be a much better place without the kind of people who shove their intolerant & militant Christianity/Islam/Atheism ect, down our throats. It would also appear that whoever removed the cross, must lack any sense of irony.

kerry4sam · 22-11-2014 8:01pm

thegreatgonzo wrote: »

I've climbed it twice, and I've climbed lots of other hills and mountains with people of all faiths and none. When you see the cross on the summit approaching, everyone's spirits lift, regardless of how they feel about crosses or religion or any of it. Whoever took that cross just stole a bit of that rare feeling you get when you get to the summit. That's all they've achieved, vandalism of a special place.

I've never climbed Carrauntoohil myself but those who have have spoken of similar sentiments to yours here.

Hopefully can be mended soon with little hassle,
kerry4sam

gctest50 · 22-11-2014 8:05pm

thegreatgonzo wrote: »

I've climbed it twice, and I've climbed lots of other hills and mountains with people of all faiths and none. When you see the cross on the summit approaching, everyone's spirits lift, regardless of how they feel about crosses or religion or any of it. Whoever took that cross just stole a bit of that rare feeling you get when you get to the summit. That's all they've achieved, vandalism of a special place.

putting the gaudy yoke there in the first place was vandalism of a special place

riffmongous · 22-11-2014 8:09pm

Molester Stallone II wrote: »

And ipso facto, it has no history and no reason or necessity for it to be there, bye bye

Why not if it's private land?

crockholm · 22-11-2014 8:14pm

Cantremember wrote: »

You are confused about what it means to be an agnostic. That's all.

That is indeed a possibility-my understanding of being agnostic is fence-sitting between theists and atheists-I have not the sufficient capacities to fully state that there is/is not a divinity (I would Think the likelyhood of there being one to be under 1%)

You called me a Christian earlier,I can say now that I Believe that the semi-historical Jesus of Nazereth was not (imo) a manifestation of god or the holy spirit-I Think that pretty much disqualifies me from being Christian.

Alas,we have gone off on a tangent.

Cross on Carauntoohill had been cut down

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