**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

Tinkersbell

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Cuttlefish wrote: »

Who drove us there in the first place?

Doesn't really matter.
The IMF are back in Ireland next week to crack the whip again.
Pro taxers won't tell you that.

eug87

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Zonda999 wrote: »

Yes, he is an exiled tax billionaire, I'm not going to dispute that for a second. My opinion on that is irrelevant. Clearly the man looks after his interests by whatever ways or means he see's fit, as his his choice. Should this automatically preclude him from owning any interest in Irish media?

I'm guessing your opinion for the other print media in the country is the same as that of the INM publications, if you think the only alternatives are Facebook and Twitter. Again, that's entirely up to you where you get your news from. Like I said earlier, all media outlets are fundamentally biased in some regard. You chose where you get your own information and make your own informed opinion.

Completely agree that its entirely up to oneself to search around for a non bias news source.
When you have a muti billionaire with 57.6 percent share of news output in our country with a bias towards Fine Gael you find yourself questioning the credibility of newstalk,Irish Independent plus 18 local news stations, recently the national Union of Journalists are calling on Alex White to 'cryhalt ' to supply news to UTV Ireland.

Then you have RTE on the other hand with a share of 41.7 percent of news output.In my eyes never seen a government minister uncomfortable under the spotlight with prescript questions.

All the figures I quoted from
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/media-and-marketing/media-mergers-regime-change-tomorrow-1.1980794

You could go on about bank write off worth over 300million in debts
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/banks-write-off-over-300m-in-three-deals-with-denis-o-brien-1.1830533

Topaz appointing former Brian Cowen. Seems like Dennis O'Brien was returning a favor.
http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/topaz-brian-cowen-1445910-May2014/

Deal to supply the entire public service worth 20million,
Was there bidding from other companies for this contract?
http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/0502/614868-topaz-ogp-deal/

Hard to ignore the constant links this tax exile has with politicians(present and former).
Just think it's worrying for one person to weld this power on our media output.

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

I have to say the imaginations of posters here is truly wonderful. Missing leg, rubber brick, undercover Guard. Brilliant.

I've heard Kaizer Soze is on the board of IW.

Pathetic. Violent protest is violent.

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

Cuttlefish wrote: »

Who drove us there in the first place?

The present opposition, which is why I'll be reelcting the Government.

Phoebas

darkpagandeath wrote: »

That it's very convenient, Protests so far have not had trouble just pushing and shoving. Now all of a sudden someone rocks up with a "brick" not even from the local architecture, No sign of a building site. And is able to lob it at a garda car unhindered even in plain sight apparently with 100 garda about and make his escape. They managed to lift 2 people apparently for something or other but not the brick man.

So you've reviewed all of the available evidence and come to this measured conclusion, right?

darkpagandeath wrote: »

where is this video ? cannot find it anywhere

ffs

Tinkersbell

I do not want to pay for water in any way

donvito99 wrote: »

I have to say the imaginations of posters here is truly wonderful. Missing leg, rubber brick, undercover Guard. Brilliant.

I've heard Kaizer Soze is on the board of IW.

Pathetic. Violent protest is violent.

And a couple of gobsh1tes doesn't make everyone else a gang of thugs.

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

darkpagandeath wrote: »

That it's very convenient, Protests so far have not had trouble just pushing and shoving. Now all of a sudden someone rocks up with a "brick" not even from the local architecture, No sign of a building site. And is able to lob it at a garda car unhindered even in plain sight apparently with 100 garda about and make his escape. They managed to lift 2 people apparently for something or other but not the brick man.

The actual brick came from the grassy knoll, and not the Jobstown's school book depository.

The magic brick theory. I love my brick.

hip_priest

donvito99 wrote: »

I have to say the imaginations of posters here is truly wonderful. Missing leg, rubber brick, undercover Guard. Brilliant.

I've heard Kaizer Soze is on the board of IW.

Pathetic. Violent protest is violent.

and didn't that stupid act work out so well for the sheeple? bogus crap,,

darkpagandeath

Phoebas wrote: »

So you've reviewed all of the available evidence and come to this measured conclusion, right?


ffs

So with all the people about with mobile phones only 2 new's papers got shots of the brick man ? Nothing odd about that at all ?

papu

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So with all the people about with mobile phones only 2 new's papers got shots of the brick man ? Nothing odd about that at all ?

Conspiracy Theories Forum is that way >

loh_oro

I do not want to pay for water in any way

I'm against how the water charges are being implemented but surrounding a woman in a car banging on the doors and windows is ridiculous. I don't care who it is or if its a "peaceful protest" its wrong!

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So with all the people about with mobile phones only 2 new's papers got shots of the brick man ? Nothing odd about that at all ?

Not entirely true, i believe the Zappruder film also picked up this "Brick Man".

I personally think the Cubans are behind it.

darkpagandeath

loh_oro wrote: »

I'm against how the water charges are being implemented but surrounding a woman in a car banging on the doors and windows is ridiculous. I don't care who it is or if its a "peaceful protest" its wrong!

So that's what makes it worse ? what if it was a man ? General public showing their displeasure at an elected official people are sick of gravy train politics with their head firmly in the trough.

loh_oro

I do not want to pay for water in any way

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So that's what makes it worse ? what if it was a man ? General public showing their displeasure at an elected official people are sick of gravy train politics with there head firmly in the trough.

Last time I checked Joan Burton was a woman. If it was a man I would have said a man will you stop been so pedantic. Showing displeasure at someone is one thing, trapping them in a car and slamming on it is another.

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

darkpagandeath wrote: »

gravy train

I do enjoy a tired cliché all the time, don't you?

Paul Murphy TD, tweet:

Indo is leading with a photo of brick thrown at Garda car. Is it a genuine photo? I don't know. I do know it did not happen during protest.

Where does a protest begin and end?

darkpagandeath

papu wrote: »

Conspiracy Theories Forum is that way >

Have you seen any other pictures ? from social media RTE or other news groups ?

darkpagandeath

loh_oro wrote: »

Last time I checked Joan Burton was a woman. If it was a man I would have said a man will you stop been so pedantic. Showing displeasure at someone is one thing, trapping them in a car and slamming on it is another.

Are you saying her life was in danger ?

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Have you seen any other pictures ? from social media RTE or other news groups ?

Jesus, Just give it up already lad. You're wrong.;)

loh_oro

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darkpagandeath wrote: »

Are you saying her life was in danger ?

Does it matter if her life was in danger? Would you like it if a group of people were unhappy with you and locked you into your car banging on the doors and windows ? Would you think that was acceptable?

darkpagandeath

loh_oro wrote: »

Does it matter if her life was in danger? Would you like it if a group of people were unhappy with you and locked you into your car banging on the doors and windows ? Would you think that was acceptable?

The protestors locked her into her car from outside ? I think it's quite acceptable for people to show their displeasure of elected officials. People like to use the EU as an example of why we should have a water charge. What happens in the rest of the EU in protests ? they pretty much do the same thing.

donvito99

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

darkpagandeath wrote: »

The protestors locked her into her car from outside ? I think it's quite acceptable for people to show their displeasure of elected officials. People like to use the EU as an example of why we should have a water charge. What happens in the rest of the EU in protests ? they pretty much do the same thing.

Funnily enough, other EU citizens pay water charges!

moxin

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donvito99 wrote: »

Funnily enough, other EU citizens pay water charges!

They don't pay exorbitant motor tax to pay for them already.

papu

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

moxin wrote: »

They don't pay exorbitant motor tax to pay for them already.

Not everyone drives a car.

Banjo String

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papu wrote: »

Not everyone drives a car.

Not every car owner is connected to the mains.

Tinkersbell

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donvito99 wrote: »

Funnily enough, other EU citizens pay water charges!

Do they pay a USC?

darkpagandeath

Tinkersbell wrote: »

Do they pay a USC?

nope and they don't pay VRT

Tinkersbell

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papu wrote: »

Not everyone drives a car.

That's a choice......

papu

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

Banjo String wrote: »

Not every car owner is connected to the mains.

Seriously?

papu

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

Tinkersbell wrote: »

That's a choice......

It's also a choice to have the water services pump the sh*te out of your house , treat it and pump clean treated water back in.

Banjo String

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papu wrote: »

Seriously?

I could have said that about your post too tbh.


(both would have been irrelevant)