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Insane private school fees.

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  • 08-10-2014 9:41pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭


    I was just watching one of the re-runs of harrow a very british school on sky 1, and they happened to mention the annual school fees are £30,000 a year :eek:
    Thats insanity,
    I don't think I'd send my kid there, even if I could afford it. I mean the school looks good for sure, but they don't seem particularly friendly, they exist, as they themselves state, in a bubble of privilege and are isolated from the regular community, cant be good for them once they're done with the school, and... I just wouldn't. Its insane. Even if the facilities are that good.

    How about you guys?
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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Richard D James


    cloud493 wrote: »
    I was just watching one of the re-runs of harrow a very british school on sky 1, and they happened to mention the annual school fees are £30,000 a year :eek:
    Thats insanity,
    I don't think I'd send my kid there, even if I could afford it. I mean the school looks good for sure, but they don't seem particularly friendly, they exist, as they themselves state, in a bubble of privilege and are isolated from the regular community, cant be good for them once they're done with the school, and... I just wouldn't. Its insane. Even if the facilities are that good.

    How about you guys?

    They probably would have your kids there anyway. Unless you are a member of the upper classes


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    cloud493 wrote: »
    I was just watching one of the re-runs of harrow a very british school on sky 1, and they happened to mention the annual school fees are £30,000 a year :eek:
    Thats insanity,
    I don't think I'd send my kid there, even if I could afford it. I mean the school looks good for sure, but they don't seem particularly friendly, they exist, as they themselves state, in a bubble of privilege and are isolated from the regular community, cant be good for them once they're done with the school, and... I just wouldn't. Its insane. Even if the facilities are that good.

    How about you guys?

    That's how much they should cost here too, if it wasn't for the state subsidised elitism. Private schools should be entirely self-funded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    They probably would not have your kids there anyway. Unless you are a member of the upper classes

    Would or wouldn't make up your mind ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭Schwiiing


    cloud493 wrote: »
    I was just watching one of the re-runs of harrow a very british school on sky 1, and they happened to mention the annual school fees are £30,000 a year :eek:
    Thats insanity,
    I don't think I'd send my kid there, even if I could afford it. I mean the school looks good for sure, but they don't seem particularly friendly, they exist, as they themselves state, in a bubble of privilege and are isolated from the regular community, cant be good for them once they're done with the school, and... I just wouldn't. Its insane. Even if the facilities are that good.

    How about you guys?

    Most of it's students will remain in that bubble for their entire lives so it doesnt really matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    But a lot of the kids we saw, they weren't going to oxford or whatever, they were going to normal universities. So clearly stepping out the bubble, cant be good for you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 860 ✭✭✭ucd.1985


    That's how much they should cost here too, if it wasn't for the state subsidised elitism. Private schools should be entirely self-funded.

    Education budget couldn't afford to take the private schools into the public system which wouldn't remain private.

    Kilkenny College alone has put pressure on the already tight education budget.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    My OH is Scottish and one of his cousins bought a house a few years ago so his kids could be in the catchment area of Fettes college in Edinburgh. (The one used in the Harry potter movies) he has 2 kids going there, another to start in 2 years. Average school year fees is £25,000 per child. The kids have changed a lot, an air of elitism and snobbery. I think it's mad, but each to their own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭Glock Lesnar


    cloud493 wrote: »
    I was just watching one of the re-runs of harrow a very british school on sky 1, and they happened to mention the annual school fees are £30,000 a year :eek:
    Thats insanity,
    I don't think I'd send my kid there, even if I could afford it. I mean the school looks good for sure, but they don't seem particularly friendly, they exist, as they themselves state, in a bubble of privilege and are isolated from the regular community, cant be good for them once they're done with the school, and... I just wouldn't. Its insane. Even if the facilities are that good.

    How about you guys?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Old_Harrovians

    They do just fine.

    Compare it to

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Old_Cabinteely_Community_Schoolians


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    ucd.1985 wrote: »
    Education budget couldn't afford to take the private schools into the public system which wouldn't remain private.

    Kilkenny College alone has put pressure on the already tight education budget.

    It's something that should never have been allowed to happen and, you're right, it's a mistake that can't be corrected overnight without causing massive upheaval.
    It can, however, be phased out over a decade by reducing the subsidy year on year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Most of them here are only about 5k a year aren't they?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭Glock Lesnar


    My OH is Scottish and one of his cousins bought a house a few years ago so his kids could be in the catchment area of Fettes college in Edinburgh. (The one used in the Harry potter movies) he has 2 kids going there, another to start in 2 years. Average school year fees is £25,000 per child. The kids have changed a lot, an air of elitism and snobbery. I think it's mad, but each to their own.

    The Fettes blazer alone is worth the fee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    The Fettes blazer alone is worth the fee

    Why?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,921 ✭✭✭kirving


    The Fettes blazer alone is worth the fee

    Agreed!

    Can't say that going to a community school in a good area had any downsides. We had the best of everything, except for maybe a pool. LC results were for the most part excellent, with plenty of 550+ and numerous 600 point results.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Teachers are teachers. State schools can have excellent facilities.

    I'd understand someone sending their child(ren) to a private school if it was a really good school and the only good school convenient to them, but simply sending them to a private school because it's a private school and/or because of the view that paying more means it'll be better... I don't agree there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    anncoates wrote: »
    Most of them here are only about 5k a year aren't they?

    Yeah, I went to a private school and it was 5 or 6k a year. I was a college drop out too so it did me a lot of good! Money well spent! :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Teachers are teachers. State schools can have excellent facilities.

    I'd understand someone sending their child(ren) to a private school if it was a really good school and the only good school convenient to them, but simply sending them to a private school because it's a private school and/or because of the view that paying more means it'll be better... I don't agree there.
    Not to mention the fact that there's an increased chance that your kid might end up as a Tory Prime Minister if you send them to Eton or Harrow, etc.

    *shudder*

    I'd rather them end up in prison, tbh. At least I'd be able to show my face in public.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭SkyBlueClouds


    Teachers are teachers. State schools can have excellent facilities.

    I'd understand someone sending their child(ren) to a private school if it was a really good school and the only good school convenient to them, but simply sending them to a private school because it's a private school and/or because of the view that paying more means it'll be better... I don't agree there.

    Indeed. If it's the best local school to you, that just happens to be private, suits your child's personality,and you believe they will flourish there - by all means send them if you can afford it.

    If the local public school is just as good with excellent facilities - send them there. It's all relative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Not to mention the fact that there's an increased chance that your kid might end up as a Tory Prime Minister if you send them to Eton or Harrow, etc.

    *shudder*

    I'd rather them end up in prison, tbh. At least I'd be able to show my face in public.
    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭earlyevening




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭blacklilly


    Teachers are teachers. State schools can have excellent facilities.

    I'd understand someone sending their child(ren) to a private school if it was a really good school and the only good school convenient to them, but simply sending them to a private school because it's a private school and/or because of the view that paying more means it'll be better... I don't agree there.

    There can and are many reasons for sending children to private schools. It does not always equate to elitism or snobbery etc. I have experienced both private and public schools and found a level of elitism and snobbery in both, however the vast majority were what I'd consider normal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    There seems to be a big difference between state schools in Ireland and the UK.

    State schools in Ireland are generally very good, but comprehensives in the UK vary greatly. Some are awful. I know they say good teachers are good teachers, but if you're in a disruptive school, that does impact on learning and getting things done.

    I wouldn't go private, but if I had kids in the UK, I'd be hoping they get into a grammar school!

    So I can understand it more in the UK, especially if one of the bad comps is in your catchment area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭SkyBlueClouds


    http://www.rosey.ch/

    120,000 US dollars per year.

    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Sure I went to both, a UK comprehensive school, and UK private school (lot cheaper than harrow) and I'd go as far to say the facilities and staff were better at the comprehensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    That's how much they should cost here too, if it wasn't for the state subsidised elitism. Private schools should be entirely self-funded.
    Its the otherway around. Private schools in Ireland save the state money - i.e. they subsidise the non fee-paying schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    Teachers are teachers. State schools can have excellent facilities.

    I'd understand someone sending their child(ren) to a private school if it was a really good school and the only good school convenient to them, but simply sending them to a private school because it's a private school and/or because of the view that paying more means it'll be better... I don't agree there.

    I dont think anyone sends their children to expensive schools because the schools are 'better' from an academic or general educational aspect - its to associate with the right type of people and to be able to enjoy the old school tie for the rest of their lives. Elitism and snobbery tend to be looked down on - but being an elitist snob is generally a recipe for a very happy life, and good luck to those who can afford to give their children that happy sense of being better that the rest of the world throughout their lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭Glock Lesnar




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,449 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    anncoates wrote: »
    Most of them here are only about 5k a year aren't they?

    Yep it's really only the ones which offer boarding such as Glenstal, Rockwell, Clongowes etc that are multiples of that.

    Funny how people won't bat an eyelid at spending up to €10k per year to send their child to a grotty creche yet think a couple of grand for a private school is exorbitant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    http://www.rosey.ch/

    120,000 US dollars per year.
    You'd think at those prices they'd be able to afford a decent website, wouldn't you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    mrsbyrne, you think being an elitist snob and a sense of being better "that" the rest of the world is generally a recipe for a very happy life?
    Interesting. :)


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    if you are sending your kids to the likes of Harrow then you are probably spending a smaller fraction of your disposable income on them than most people would sending their kids to the local tech or CBS


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