*******Motors Chat - Round 7*******

Simonigs1.0

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Right HERE

Cheers, I'm going to order those.

My girlfriend's Christmas present sorted! :P

MetzgerMeister

I like her already

Gavman84

Rammstein are deadly they were class in the O2 last year!

Mister Jingles

Thats the Micra now sold

MetzgerMeister

Gavman84 wrote: »

Rammstein are deadly they were class in the O2 last year!

Front row for me, right in front of Paul! I got a sticker that says "I survived front row with Rammstein"

Bpmull

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Only thing I don't like about the new Clio is the range of engines. Could be a bit puncher to be honest, for the Petrol there's a huge gap between the 0.9TCe and the RenaultSport Clio. Something in between would be nice I think.

I really like the Clio and megane sport editions they are class cars. I'm still adamant that a 2006-2008 Renault Clio 197 will be my first petrol car to own I think they are a serious car. I loved them since I seen one of the first ones to hit Ireland in 2006 sitting in a Renault showroom. That blue colour is just unreal in them. They can be got so right in the uk too. I'd probably have it as a second car though.

ShadowHearth

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

A bit ot, but do any of you speak French?

I can speak fluent Russian if thats any help! Benefits of living in post soviet country! :cool:

bear1

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I can speak fluent Russian if thats any help! Benefits of living in post soviet country! :cool:

Which one?

ShadowHearth

bear1 wrote: »

Which one?

As MM would put it: "that prick is Litho-Corkian"

Simonigs1.0

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I can speak fluent Russian if thats any help! Benefits of living in post soviet country! :cool:

I've always wanted to learn Russian. 5 grammatical genders if I remember correctly. I watched a fantastic documentary on Slavic languages recently and there was a great bit on endangered Russian languages.

My French is rusty, but I do speak Irish and English quite well.

dgt

bear1 wrote: »

Is he going out with a French lad?




















































Runs like fook!!!!

You never told me you were French

ShadowHearth

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

I've always wanted to learn Russian. 5 grammatical genders if I remember correctly. I watched a fantastic documentary on Slavic languages recently and there was a great bit on endangered Russian languages.

My French is rusty, but I do speak Irish and English quite well.

I dont want to sound like a dick, but Russian is a VERY rich language. Its not my first language, but due to family situation and my location of living I learned Russian.
Russian Language has so many expressions and ways to "express" yourself, that English language could only dream. Swearing in Russian just takes the crown. Sometimes people ask me to translate it to Lithuanian or English and I cant. There is just no words for such awesomeness.

quadrifoglio verde

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I dont want to sound like a dick, but Russian is a VERY rich language. Its not my first language, but due to family situation and my location of living I learned Russian.
Russian Language has so many expressions and ways to "express" yourself, that English language could only dream. Swearing in Russian just takes the crown. Sometimes people ask me to translate it to Lithuanian or English and I cant. There is just no words for such awesomeness.

You get the same with irish the deeper you dig.

Simonigs1.0

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I dont want to sound like a dick, but Russian is a VERY rich language. Its not my first language, but due to family situation and my location of living I learned Russian.
Russian Language has so many expressions and ways to "express" yourself, that English language could only dream. Swearing in Russian just takes the crown. Sometimes people ask me to translate it to Lithuanian or English and I cant. There is just no words for such awesomeness.

Its stupidly confusing, I know. Hence, I never did, but I'd love to know a Slavic language.

Irish is about as exotic as it gets for me sadly :pac: I only began to learn English aged about 4. I would genuinely love to speak Irish more than I do, because I can, but sadly I don't.

ShadowHearth

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

Its stupidly confusing, I know. Hence, I never did, but I'd love to know a Slavic language.

Irish is about as exotic as it gets for me sadly :pac: I only began to learn English aged about 4. I would genuinely love to speak Irish more than I do, because I can, but sadly I don't.

Irish is Dead Language. Even ( most ) Irish could not give a **** about it. I just feel sorry about Irish kids who are forced to learn it.

Simonigs1.0

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Irish is Dead Language. Even ( most ) Irish could not give a **** about it. I just feel sorry about Irish kids who are forced to learn it.

With all due respect, it is a dead language because the majority of kids, and indeed adults, have this mindset for no other reason than "sure what do we need it for anyway"? Irish is important because it is a hugely distinguishing characteristic of our culture. It plays a paramount role in the national cultural identity and is priceless repository of all that is truly Irish. Its a damn shame too many people have no interest in it or indeed their culture at all.

Toyotafanboi

i have to say, being Irish born and bred, i do wish i could speak more Irish. i can string a rough sentence together and read it with a bit of time, but i couldn't hold a conversation.

it's my own fault as its something i had no time for in school, for the reasons mentioned above. "why will i bother learning Irish, i'm never going to Ireland" kind of thing.

biggest regret of my youth perhaps, not going to a Gaeltacht for the summer.

Noccy_Mondy

Ya it is a shame alright. I can see the amount of young'ins who couldn't give a damn about the language, and tbh, the majority of adults are in the same boat, just look at all the threads in AH.

MetzgerMeister

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Irish is Dead Language. Even ( most ) Irish could not give a **** about it. I just feel sorry about Irish kids who are forced to learn it.

Labas! Kaip sakasa Lithucorkian prick? :pac:

quadrifoglio verde

The issue is how it's thought, studying poetry and stories and all that crap as well as writing shouldn't be touched until you can speak it fluently.
but we've more chance of motor tax being scrapped than the way irish is thought At primary schools

MetzgerMeister

It's often taught in schools too :pac:

Simonigs1.0

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

The issue is how it's thought, studying poetry and stories and all that crap as well as writing shouldn't be touched until you can speak it fluently.
but we've more chance of motor tax being scrapped than the way irish is thought At primary schools

This is a huge issue. At the moment senior cycle Irish is a big memory test; learn this poem and that story. Nobody knows what they are learning, and most don't care. The oral aspect of the course from primary level is always very much disregarded, even if it is one of the most important aspects of learning a language.

With the Gaeltacht, I always found them to be a bit funny. I was raised in the East but went to a Gaeltacht in the West - where they used a different dialect to the Irish I was thought at school. So I noticed people did struggle to understand some basic things that they would understand if we were back at home. I have parents from two different regions, so I grew up knowing two different dialects, one being Western. I'd like to think this has at least been addressed, or maybe it was just a problem with where I went to.

Noccy_Mondy

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

This is a huge issue. At the moment senior cycle Irish is a big memory test; learn this poem and that story. Nobody knows what they are learning, and most don't care. The oral aspect of the course from primary level is always very much disregarded, even if it is one of the most important aspects of learning a language.

With the Gaeltacht, I always found them to be a bit funny. I was raised in the East but went to a Gaeltacht in the West - where they used a different dialect to the Irish I was thought at school. So I noticed people did struggle to understand some basic things that they would understand if we were back at home. I have parents from two different regions, so I grew up knowing two different dialects, one being Western. I'd like to think this has at least been addressed, or maybe it was just a problem with where I went to.

Senior cycle everything is a memory test, that's the bigger problem......

Bpmull

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Senior cycle everything is a memory test, that's the bigger problem......

The good old days of leaving cert when you had 2 years to prepare for it. I would agree with you though it a memory test in the vast majority of subjects. I remember throughout secondary school being told oh your lc will be the toughest exams you will sit and everything will be easy in college compared to it I got some shock in first year of college :pac:

Also my last exam 4.30 tomorrow then finished for Christmas yay

Noccy_Mondy

Bpmull wrote: »

The good old days of leaving cert when you had 2 years to prepare for it. I would agree with you though it a memory test in the vast majority of subjects. I remember throughout secondary school being told oh your lc will be the toughest exams you will sit and everything will be easy in college compared to it I got some shock in first year of college :pac:

Also my last exam 4.30 tomorrow then finished for Christmas yay

Best of luck dude, can't wait to finish up for xmas either tomorrow

ShadowHearth

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

With all due respect, it is a dead language because the majority of kids, and indeed adults, have this mindset for no other reason than "sure what do we need it for anyway"? Irish is important because it is a hugely distinguishing characteristic of our culture. It plays a paramount role in the national cultural identity and is priceless repository of all that is truly Irish. Its a damn shame too many people have no interest in it or indeed their culture at all.

Well, I am bred in country were Lithuanian were always pushed in to my brain an Russian as an "evil" country and language. In the end I Love more Russian culture and language then I ever did Lithuanian one.
At the same time, I LOVE Ireland. I said that before and I will say it again: "If there will be a Third World War, I will go Fight under Irish Flag". I love this country and it gave me so much in my life then Lithuania ever did. Learning the Irish language would not be a sign of my "love" to Ireland though. So why the **** force it?

Toyotafanboi

Bpmull wrote: »

Also my last exam 4.30 tomorrow then finished for Christmas yay

my last exam for this symester is 9.00am tomorrow, dreading it! structures and environmental science all rolled into one paper.

Simonigs1.0

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well, I am bred in country were Lithuanian were always pushed in to my brain an Russian as an "evil" country and language. In the end I Love more Russian culture and language then I ever did Lithuanian one.
At the same time, I LOVE Ireland. I said that before and I will say it again: "If there will be a Third World War, I will go Fight under Irish Flag". I love this country and it gave me so much in my life then Lithuania ever did. Learning the Irish language would not be a sign of my "love" to Ireland though. So why the **** force it?

It isn't quite just the language, but the culture too. And speaking from an ex-teachers point of view, the absence of interest in the language is generally paired with no interest whatsoever in culture or the country at all. I don't understand why, though. I don't understand why people don't want to express how great this country is, and what better way to do it but speak Irish? Or even show some respect towards the language, at the very least. It is a fascinating language.

quadrifoglio verde

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well, I am bred in country were Lithuanian were always pushed in to my brain an Russian as an "evil" country and language. In the end I Love more Russian culture and language then I ever did Lithuanian one.
At the same time, I LOVE Ireland. I said that before and I will say it again: "If there will be a Third World War, I will go Fight under Irish Flag". I love this country and it gave me so much in my life then Lithuania ever did. Learning the Irish language would not be a sign of my "love" to Ireland though. So why the **** force it?

Sure you will, in a neutral country:P

I actually disagree with the forced ethos, especially for secondary school. It just adds resentment and hatred towards the language.

ShadowHearth

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

It isn't quite just the language, but the culture too. And speaking from an ex-teachers point of view, the absence of interest in the language is generally paired with no interest whatsoever in culture or the country at all. I don't understand why, though. I don't understand why people don't want to express how great this country is, and what better way to do it but speak Irish? Or even show some respect towards the language, at the very least.

Just because I will be forced to learn Irish language will not make love Ireland. I love Ireland even if I can not say a thing in Irish. Who is worse?
Ireland had a History with England. Same way Lithuania had a history with Russia. Instead of getting thick about it, you should you use it as advantage.