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is it ever ok to punch a bully in the f**kin face?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    FTA69 wrote: »
    It wasn't funny at the time but it's a realistic portrayal. Hitting a bully won't automatically make them recoil like the cowards they are, chances are it's going to result in the child getting an ass-whipping. Now, sometimes that message will get across and you'll get left alone, other times it won't.

    In TV and movies it happens like this - in reality bullies as they get bigger are more likely to be in fights so they're more likely to be better at fighting than the person they're picking on.

    Standing up to them can work but as you experienced it can result in receiving a thrashing.

    Some parents need to consider this before encouraging their kids to throw a punch at anyone who tries to pick on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    It's gas the effect it can have on people as well. I still think about these incidents nearly every week 15 years after they occurred, and while I'm not utterly traumatised; they do still rankle a bit. Especially considering I know full well I'd beat the utter p*ss out of them in this day and age.

    It's frustrating when you're still thinking of times you were picked on years down the line while those who did it probably don't even remember your name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    rob316 wrote: »
    As someone with an autistic son I agree. If that child is in a mainstream school he should know wrong from right regardless. Been autistic is no excuse.

    A remarkably considered self aware view. This is still AH all right?

    The problem with current bullying is that it just milimeters beneath the surface yet paraxodically completely invisible, almost entirely mental based and not physical to the point where teachers, students are dealing with something almost cerebal in nature. If bullying was predominatly physical, at least the victim would feel obliged to throw a punch because the other struck first, but as I found out, a teenager who bullies is usually scared ****less of the consequences if its made real and out in the open in a visible way. As a kid dealing with the mental part of is almost impossible and nobody will tell you this, it' s a five headed dragon because it's a case of "How do the **** do I get him and not **** myself up in eyes of others, and why the **** are the teachers not doing this for me" . Generally though when it is made real (usually by the victim ending it with a first strike), it's the end of it, there was nothing to be future consequences to be afraid of it, it was a ghost.

    What really got me and (still gets me) me though is that in 2nd level some teachers were young enough and surely must have similar negative experiences only 5-6 years prior when they were in 2nd level and I wouldn't want to let somebody else go through that. Sometimes I think the few nosy teacher we had would have be better been concerned about not just the grades, but the kid himself, I do think kids are missing that kind of close tutoring on life in state education.

    Imagine a saucepan on full heat just about to boil over, but it never overflows it, just staying in stasis, that's modern bullying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Bull76


    When I was younger I was a tall skinny young fella, curly hair and glasses. A lot of people reckoned it would be fun to call me names and to bully me. Only thing these so called bullies didn't realise was I wasn't going to take any crap from them. Stated that to them and after that when ever they decided to teach me a lesson they got their ass handed to them.
    Appearances can and do deceive. When my younger brothers were been picked on, the bullies were shown what would and will happen if they touched them again. They weren't touched again. Violence isn't always the best action but at times it is what is best understood. Just to enlighten them to the error of there ways.
    So bullies, if you don't like getting hit then don't do it. Usually at times these bullies will met someone who is just as bad as them and they are on the other end. But Karma is bliss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Bull76 wrote: »
    When I was younger I was a tall skinny young fella, curly hair and glasses. A lot of people reckoned it would be fun to call me names and to bully me. Only thing these so called bullies didn't realise was I wasn't going to take any crap from them. Stated that to them and after that when ever they decided to teach me a lesson they got their ass handed to them.
    Appearances can and do deceive. When my younger brothers were been picked on, the bullies were shown what would and will happen if they touched them again. They weren't touched again. Violence isn't always the best action but at times it is what is best understood. Just to enlighten them to the error of there ways.
    So bullies, if you don't like getting hit then don't do it. Usually at times these bullies will met someone who is just as bad as them and they are on the other end. But Karma is bliss.

    My younger brother was picked by one lad in my year who used to take potshots at me (this was before I took a shot at the crowd myself, it was a very small 2nd level school around 200), thinking he was going to a soft a target as me, my 1st year brother absolutely firebombed this 5th year (who was like a Hector dopple ganger in everyway) with wit and everything about his respectable family was fair game in front of a laughing crowd. It was car crash stuff, he was red faced, aghast, that people were talking about it for a solid week about somebody had the gaul to simply say what nobody ever dare say.

    I was damn proud of him. Still am (for other reason thankfully) :D

    My brother and I both went to this a primary school with this childhood friend of ours too, so we knew well that'd he was like, I didn't want to open the pandora's box of having the guy who lived a mile telling everyone our age to avoid us if we tattled on him, but by age 16,17, we didn't gave a **** and neither did my brother, he saw how I suffered with that and like a fool (maybe) I just waited it out, he didn't.

    The joys of rural living as a teenager!. :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    We have to make sure we do not send our kids in pumped up for a war too lol as if 30 kids go in with the attitude of kill or be killed there will be a blood bath.

    because that's whats being advocated...?


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