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is it ever ok to punch a bully in the f**kin face?

  • 21-09-2014 02:07AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    the young fella is now in senior infants. And with every school, there's a little bollicks in the yard that picks on the smaller lads, mine included sometimes. its not an issue, he doesn't seem too worried about it (yet?!), but the wife and I differ on dealing with it.

    I'm old school, and have said to him, its ok to defend himself, but not to throw the first slap, to warn the bully if he pushes/kicks him again that he'll retaliate in kind. then if the scrote picks on him again, mill the little f**ker. He might take a few extra slaps, but he'll be too much hassle for the bully the next time, he'll pick on some one else.

    Needless to say the wife has a different view, and thinks im encouraging him to be a thug. I say the little chap has to learn to stand up for himself, ive to teach him how to do it.

    Is there too much namby pambying these days? Are we running to the teachers every time our kids gets pushed over demanding interventions bla bla etc., hearing the usual platitudes "violence doesn't solve anything", "its a cry for help" from the little scrote", that polices are in place do deal with it...
    do we need to teach our kids assertiveness and not to take ****e from bullies?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭policarp


    If you're intimated and you think you
    will be hurt.
    Then fight your corner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Give the little lad a shank, nobody will fcuk with him when he sticks some other little fcuker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    It he pisses him off long enough that your son gives him a box then as far as I'm concerned he deserved it.

    I wouldn't encourage your kid to do it, and I wouldn't reward him for doing it, but I really wouldn't be too upset if he did. Your son stands his ground and that little shit gets a blood nose, what's not to like? :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    wazky wrote: »
    Give the little lad a shank, nobody will fcuk with him when he sticks some other little fcuker.

    he has one made from a crayon, its not very effective though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    A dig in the head is too easy, encourage your kid to play the long game, plotting devious revenge whenever he can. Like spiking the bullies drinks with eyedrops so every day he has some digestive pyrotechnics to amuse the class with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭LowOdour


    wazky wrote: »
    Give the little lad a shank, nobody will fcuk with him when he sticks some other little fcuker.

    Fair enough I might be slightly pissed...but wazku is right..,arm the young 'un with a blade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭TheBegotten


    Just to clarify, we're talking about five year olds here? Talk to the teacher about it, at that age a stern word will set him right. I'd say something if it was a ten year old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    Feck it, tell the chap to stick him and I betcha there won't be much more after it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Tell him to spit on each hand, then take a penalty kick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Just to clarify, we're talking about five year olds here? Talk to the teacher about it, at that age a stern word will set him right. I'd say something if it was a ten year old.

    You've obviously never met a proper little shit. :P

    Violence is the answer, friends. Violence is the answer. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    wazky wrote: »
    Give the little lad a shank, nobody will fcuk with him when he sticks some other little fcuker.

    http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/ain+t+no+one+****s+with+tiny+hippo_7541d9_3298343.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    the young fella is now in senior infants. And with every school, there's a little bollicks in the yard that picks on the smaller lads, mine included sometimes. its not an issue, he doesn't seem too worried about it (yet?!), but the wife and I differ on dealing with it.

    I'm old school, and have said to him, its ok to defend himself, but not to throw the first slap, to warn the bully if he pushes/kicks him again that he'll retaliate in kind. then if the scrote picks on him again, mill the little f**ker. He might take a few extra slaps, but he'll be too much hassle for the bully the next time, he'll pick on some one else.

    Needless to say the wife has a different view, and thinks im encouraging him to be a thug. I say the little chap has to learn to stand up for himself, ive to teach him how to do it.

    Is there too much namby pambying these days? Are we running to the teachers every time our kids gets pushed over demanding interventions bla bla etc., hearing the usual platitudes "violence doesn't solve anything", "its a cry for help" from the little scrote", that polices are in place do deal with it...
    do we need to teach our kids assertiveness and not to take ****e from bullies?

    I would first go down the route with the teachers and it it happens a single more time then give your kid permission to throw a few punches.

    Problem is that if your kid cant fight and loses badly then it will just make things a lot worse as he has just reenforced the bully's power.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    A good shanking solves all, remember to twist.

    Don't let your child go all ISIS though, that wouldn't be cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    wazky wrote: »
    A good shanking solves all, remember to twist.

    Don't let your child go all ISIS though, that wouldn't be cool.

    Speak for yourself.... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    This kid fought back and was praised for it.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Just to be clear, are we talking about Russia v the Ukraine,?
    If so tell the little lad to keep on standing up for himself.

    Never give in to a bully!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    I'll bate that little bastard for ya! Show me where me lives. Show me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Given they're so young and it's happening to others too, either talk to the parents or the teacher and see if that can be resolved first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Parents of these kids are normally as bad so it might be better for you to punch them in the face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭beanie10


    yes op go with this one. find the little bollixes father and everytime the kid bullies yours just plant his father one between the 2 eyes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Man get the lad into boxing traning, the fact alone that he is boxing will get most bullys off his back, a typical bully is a coward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    Remember what Jesus said "do unto others as they do unto you, but get the boot in first"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    Don't see the problem, if the bully is old enough to dish it out then your son is old enough to retaliate in kind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Your Wife is absolutely 100% right

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone II


    Of course you should speak to the teacher, it must be brought to their attention & let them deal with it, believe me, they have a lot more experience dealing with little Mussolinis than you have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Bring it to the attention of the teacher, but co-incidentally teach your son to box or a martial art.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,198 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Of course he should retaliate. The sooner he learns to deal with his own problems, the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    it's all well and good to teach a kid to walk away, tell teacher, blah blah.
    but when teachers are not even dealing with these types of children in schools, kids have to look after themselves.
    i always told mine, after they took the bully crap, spoke to teachers etc, to never start anything but if needed, finish it. people have to be able to look after themselves and it seems necessary for it to start in infant classes.

    good luck to your lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    What you do is have a word with his father in front of both your child, and his, to lead by example.

    Put it to him and his son sternly that it's not to continue (obviously a bit softer with the kid). If it happens again, you'll have to call over to the father only for an explanation. And tell the father that.

    Separately, get the kid involved in boxing, rugby or some sport - the focus is to grow his confidence to be able to deal with life, to relationship build, and maintain that level of self esteem he needs. There's always going to be a level of bullying going on at all stages of life unfortunately. The world is run on power and control.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    it's all well and good to teach a kid to walk away, tell teacher, blah blah.
    but when teachers are not even dealing with these types of children in schools, kids have to look after themselves.
    i always told mine, after they took the bully crap, spoke to teachers etc, to never start anything but if needed, finish it. people have to be able to look after themselves and it seems necessary for it to start in infant classes.

    good luck to your lad.

    Teachers are obliged to deal with it nowadays. Schools have completely changed!!!!!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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