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guitarzero

If I've learned anything in life, it's that you really dont know anyone, it's all just approximations at best. Know this now.

h.bolla

Magaggie wrote: »

There was refuting the way you said ONE woman "shows" how easy it is for women to get "tail".
Here's a great post in response to that bitter attitude: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91261197&postcount=560

I think you're missing the point, and I said this to that poster already, she says she could probably have sex with A man every night of the week. However she cant always get the man she really likes.

Well heres the thing, a lot of lads would kill to get ANY girl and lose their virginities. I mean how often do you see women in their 30's/40's who are virgins asking for advice on what to do. There are plenty of lads in that very boat.

h.bolla

Magaggie wrote: »

There's too much resentment towards women allowed on this forum, it's getting ridiculous.

Im not sure where you are getting the resentment idea from? Is it this thread or elsewhere? Obviously I have seen one or two questionable posters on this thread (and I suspect most of them were trolling)... but I dont remember seeing any real resentment or anybody you could label a mysognist.

Galwayguy35

paddy1990 wrote: »

A good looking girl just has to install tinder on her phone and go shopping for guys. She could have sex any night of the week. Most of the girls who would argue against this are simply not good looking enough to be able to pull hot guys whenever they want.

The reverse is true as well by the way. I'm a good looking guy (work for a modelling agency) and get about 3-5 messages a day on my POF online account and get swiped by girls on tinder all the time. I could actually employ a secretary to sort out all the women messaging me. So it works both ways. The only people who complain I think, are less attractive and unable to live this lifestyle as a result. Your looks dictate where you are on the dating spectrum... it's call darwinism. Once you're good looking, you have no problems with dating and can have sex whenever. Most people who think they are good looking are actually not and probably barely above average, if that.

So to conclude, I wouldn't be too hard on women, yes they can have sex whenever (their looks will dictate the kind of guys they can have sex with - why would a good looking guy waste time with a fat minger when he can be with a good looking girl?) but the reverse is true for guys. However, it's only a select few really good looking guys like myself or guys who have some kind of status (musician/actor etc) who can and do pull women with ease.

Actually, women pull us.

Yeah if you are good looking you will get messages, but coming out with lines like "I could actually employ a secretary to sort out all the girls messaging me" smells of BS.

I'd say there is only one thing you pull and it's not women.

goz83

paddy1990 wrote: »

And here is where you are wrong.

For example I went on a bit of a spree a few months ago and had sex with 7 women in 2 weeks. All of whom had messaged me first based on my looks. All of whom I met up with close to my apartment (near Camden St.) had a few drinks and went back to mine eventually. Very attractive young girls, 3 of them in their mid 20s with professional jobs and the rest were in college, one of them a medical student.

Now you don't have to believe me but I'm telling the truth here. ALL of these women pursued me. I could do this very often if I wanted to but I'm happy with the girls I have currently.

I realize this comes across as bragging, especially as its so outside of the reality of some guys here but it is what it is.

I think your lack of years and real life limited experience (and i am not talking numbers of young girls you've bedded) has left you with a very narrow field view. 7 girls in 2 weeks....stud :rolleyes:. Look, I used to be a dancer/choreographer. I used to be a sales manager with mostly girls on my team. I was hit on daily, by multiples. Big deal. I never had trouble attracting the opposite sex. In fact, I seemed to attract the same sex too :eek: .I'm by no means old, but in my younger days, I was beating them away with a stick (mostly). I had the boy-band look, but it was more about confidence.

I'm not as handsome now as I was 10 years ago (imo), but i promise that i would have no difficulty in going to a club, or setting up a POF profile and bedding a woman every night. The difference between me and the OPs ex and it would seem you too (being with the girls you currently have), is that I never found joy in meaningless sex and have no desire in racking up numbers, or adding notches to my bed post. I found a very attractive woman, who suited my taste, who I fell in love with and married. Thankfully, she thinks i am good looking too, even though I don't have my boy-band looks anymore :P

Magaggie wrote: »

To say average-looking men have a hard time getting together with women is a laughable lie. "Average" by its very nature means how most of the population looks, and most of the population ends up with someone.

Women experience rejection and heartbreak too - any women. There's too much resentment towards women allowed on this forum, it's getting ridiculous.
Women who only go for really good-looking guys no matter how they look themselves (whether that's relevant or not) are possibly confined to a particular type of person/age. Certainly not women I'm familiar with - at any age.

+1

Paddy seems to just have a very limited experience. But they do say that most models have certain difficulties understanding anything beyond their own skin deep world.

I would add that everyone has their own taste too. A very tall, dark and handsome man might prefer a small, pear shaped woman, who many might consider unattractive. A good looking friend I used to hang with was into larger women, who I would find sexually revolting if I am completely honest. There are way more factors than what Paddy has stated. I believe the leading factor is confidence. If you've got that, old, young, short, tall, handsome, or less, you've got game in you.

I tip my hat and leave :pac:

lazybones32

h.bolla wrote: »

Myself and my GF broke up a few months back and it happened after a discussion about another girl with a similar story to the Magaluf girl.

I said something like 'no self respecting man will date the girl after this' and my GF defended her saying that shes young and drunk and what you do expect at that age.

I replied by saying "you were young and did you ever do anything like that?". Then her face changed I knew something was up.

After a lot of rowing she admitted she had a 6-some one night (her and 5 other men) along with a dozen or 3-somes over the years and has lost count on the amount of drunken one night stands shes had with randomers. Oh and for most of her teens right up to her mid 20's she has always had 1 or 2 friends with benefits at any given time most of them lasting for 3-4 months. She guessed all in all that she'd had around 500 partners give or take.

Its not exactly the kinda image that sprang to mind when we first got together and told me she only ever had 2 boyfriends and I'd be her third.

But alas, apparantly its none of my business what went on in her past, and if Im annoyed about her past then obviously I dont deserve her.

I thought I just had the worst luck and was dating a right bitch and put it behind me and moved on. But then I was reading a few threads on here (in the personal issues section) and I noticed that quite a lot of women posters have the same attitude.

This attitude really blows my mind. How do you gentlmen feel about the whole thing?

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10 days and 53 pages later, I add my two cents to a good topic. Kudos to you, bro.

I like to know a woman before I get with her for this, and other, reasons.
I'm all for accepting people as they are - I try not to judge but I have standards too and if her **** bothers me, it bothers me. She can call herself 'sexually emancipated' all she wants but if she's been with a disproportionate number of men, I have every right to feel aggrieved and shocked (relationships are about two people...not one and their 500).

We all fantasize about riding a porn star but rarely do we want to enter a relationship with one.

paddy1990

Magaggie wrote: »

To say average-looking men have a hard time getting together with women is a laughable lie. "Average" by its very nature means how most of the population looks, and most of the population ends up with someone.

Women experience rejection and heartbreak too - any women. There's too much resentment towards women allowed on this forum, it's getting ridiculous.
Women who only go for really good-looking guys no matter how they look themselves (whether that's relevant or not) are possibly confined to a particular type of person/age. Certainly not women I'm familiar with - at any age.

You'd swear there were no men (with any kind of "looks") commenting on women being "munters" et al.

You sound like an older woman.. im guessing in your 40s? If so, that would perfectly explain the difference in our views (to me, not to you). Can you clarify your age? Or am I asking too much? We are all anonymous here so you can take advantage of your anonymity. Regarding your post, if i compare my average looking mates and myself, then its certainly not laughable by any means to say that a lot of average looking men certainly struggle to get with *attractive* women, and these are great guys btw. Sure, some of them can get with less attractive girls and some can get with average girls as well of course but generally I have seen and heard time and time again how it is. There is no point in continuing along this line of discussion. Wibbs has also disagreed with my view on this and I won't budge from it so lets just agree to disagree but I will say that if a woman is fat or not good looking then she will struggle and the same with a man.

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah if you are good looking you will get messages, but coming out with lines like "I could actually employ a secretary to sort out all the girls messaging me" smells of BS.

I'd say there is only one thing you pull and it's not women.

I think there is a bit of resentment towards me in some of the posts for the ease with which I meet women. Believe me, women come on to me ALL the time and this is the same for other good looking guys as well. I think a lot of men have trouble accepting this. That's my theory anyway. Otherwise why would posts like the one above be directed at me? Guys have been taking passive aggressive shots at me since I started posting here. It's a mixture of jealousy and probably some frustration that they don't live this lifestyle. Which is understandable but I'm not here to brag, I'm just here to say it like it is. The home truths are a bit to raw for some guys here I feel. Most guys can look decent enough if they hit the gym and work on their fashion. Facial features even become more attractive as the angularity of your face increases due to a lower body fat. I spend 5 days per week in the gym and work hard to look as good as I can and maybe if there is one thing that you take away from this it is to get in the best possible shape you can in order to give yourself the best chance possible. I browsed some of the pictures posted in the "know your loungers" post and some of the posters could definitely do with improving their bodies.

goz83 wrote: »

I think your lack of years and real life limited experience (and i am not talking numbers of young girls you've bedded) has left you with a very narrow field view. 7 girls in 2 weeks....stud :rolleyes:. Look, I used to be a dancer/choreographer. I used to be a sales manager with mostly girls on my team. I was hit on daily, by multiples. Big deal. I never had trouble attracting the opposite sex. In fact, I seemed to attract the same sex too :eek: .I'm by no means old, but in my younger days, I was beating them away with a stick (mostly). I had the boy-band look, but it was more about confidence.

I see a lot of agreement with what I have written so far. You were good looking and got attention from women all the time, much like I do. Of course you are going to be confident due to the positive feedback loop.

goz83 wrote: »

I'm not as handsome now as I was 10 years ago (imo), but i promise that i would have no difficulty in going to a club, or setting up a POF profile and bedding a woman every night.

This would ENTIRELY depend on your looks.

I don't know what you look like now but you're probably good looking. If you really think any guy can go to a club or set up a POF profile and bed hot women *every* night, then you are quite deluded in my opinion but we can agree to disagree.

Sauve

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I'm going to close up this thread now folks. It's strayed well off topic and I'm sure we can all agree that it's had its day.