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superlevy 2015

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    #32
    stretch film
    Registered Users Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭stretch film


    Cows getting no encouragement here.
    Filling just contract volumes till year end.
    First aut calvings by weekend so will calve a batch and dry a batch in return .

    Its the expansion group that will cause me the biggest headache next feb/march
    Was hoping to be slightly under to soak that up . Bfat reference making up 2/3 of over quota atm .

    Might get v lazy christmas week and all jan and feck the liq quota .


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    #33
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Have u minimum winter targets to be met in order to stay in liquid/winter milk scheme?


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    #34
    stretch film
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Have u minimum winter targets to be met in order to stay in liquid/winter milk scheme?

    Daily volume in liquid . Small winter scheme pot here . Value in euros divided at relevant monthly rate on any surlpus litres until used up. Could get 3 different milk prices in the one month iykwim


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    #35
    mf240
    Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭mf240


    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    What a dick. He must have sh1t for brains. I'm milking OAD since the 1st of oct, will hopefully not have my own quota full until mid march. I'll still be around 40000L over, but at least I'm trying. Guys like him are fcuking it up for everyone

    Its his own business how much he wants to gamble.


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    #36
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    mf240 wrote: »
    Its his own business how much he wants to gamble.

    It is, but recklessness like that could become other people's business very quickly in the form of unpaid bills etc.


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    #37
    mahoney_j
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    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    What a dick. He must have sh1t for brains. I'm milking OAD since the 1st of oct, will hopefully not have my own quota full until mid march. I'll still be around 40000L over, but at least I'm trying. Guys like him are fcuking it up for everyone
    Fully agree,Farming in fantasy land tbh .Ill be switching to oad in early november as well to save some quota for spring but still reckon ill be full by mid march which i can handle.I can also hold 12 k ltrs of milk in late march which i will be doing as well.I dont think he will be as smug next spring or for a long time after that when he is paying back levy


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    #38
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Reality is that if milk price were to drop sub 28cpl every farmer in this country could consider dumping all of march milk

    Now I'm just saying but processors won't like this as they don't care if a farmer is over quota as they still make their margins- different story if their not getting their milk

    Maybe they will have to do some sort of deal to pay a% of the national sl

    You might think I'm crazy but if Glanbia couldn't get milk in the morning there would be big trouble

    Pressure is on coop to keep milk price over 32cpl


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    #39
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    stanflt wrote: »
    Reality is that if milk price were to drop sub 28cpl every farmer in this country could consider dumping all of march milk

    Now I'm just saying but processors won't like this as they don't care if a farmer is over quota as they still make their margins- different story if their not getting their milk

    Maybe they will have to do some sort of deal to pay a% of the national sl

    You might think I'm crazy but if Glanbia couldn't get milk in the morning there would be big trouble

    Pressure is on coop to keep milk price over 32cpl

    +1. On the button. If those large processors can't get raw material you'd be surprised how quick milk auctions in the Southern Hemisphere get forgotten.

    I'm seeing it here right now.


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    #40
    darragh_haven
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    stanflt wrote: »
    Reality is that if milk price were to drop sub 28cpl every farmer in this country could consider dumping all of march milk

    Now I'm just saying but processors won't like this as they don't care if a farmer is over quota as they still make their margins- different story if their not getting their milk

    Maybe they will have to do some sort of deal to pay a% of the national sl

    You might think I'm crazy but if Glanbia couldn't get milk in the morning there would be big trouble

    Pressure is on coop to keep milk price over 32cpl


    But most farmers that continue to milk wont dump milk and hope for the best. And the processor will continue to get his raw material regardless.

    Its a bit like the beef factories.... they'll get their animals regardless of price because you'll never get any sort of majority of farmers to agree to hold back the animals when they are fit


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    #41
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭stanflt


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    But most farmers that continue to milk wont dump milk and hope for the best. And the processor will continue to get his raw material regardless.

    Its a bit like the beef factories.... they'll get their animals regardless of price because you'll never get any sort of majority of farmers to agree to hold back the animals when they are fit



    You would be very surprised
    Dairy men have a history of protesting


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    #42
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    stanflt wrote: »
    Reality is that if milk price were to drop sub 28cpl every farmer in this country could consider dumping all of march milk

    Now I'm just saying but processors won't like this as they don't care if a farmer is over quota as they still make their margins- different story if their not getting their milk

    Maybe they will have to do some sort of deal to pay a% of the national sl

    You might think I'm crazy but if Glanbia couldn't get milk in the morning there would be big trouble

    Pressure is on coop to keep milk price over 32cpl
    Dead on, last thing needed is collapse. My post in DFG on same lines


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    #43
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭stanflt


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    But most farmers that continue to milk wont dump milk and hope for the best. And the processor will continue to get his raw material regardless.

    Its a bit like the beef factories.... they'll get their animals regardless of price because you'll never get any sort of majority of farmers to agree to hold back the animals when they are fit


    As I mentioned this won't happen if it's going to happen till march- when there is no end in sight and the coop is actually over quota


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    #44
    RightTurnClyde
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    Even at 27 or 28 in March, farmers will still won't dump, at that point it may be worth the gamble on on a small percentage that Phil will sort something out.


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    #45
    Timmaay
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    How much is a litre of milk worth in terms of P K and N? I'd say it's like rocket fuel for grass?


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    #46
    mf240
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    How much is a litre of milk worth in terms of P K and N? I'd say it's like rocket fuel for grass?

    Ah here.


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    #47
    RightTurnClyde
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    How much is a litre of milk worth in terms of P K and N? I'd say it's like rocket fuel for grass?

    :):)
    If you spread it in Dec or Jan, would it be counted as soiled water or slurry?:D


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    #48
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    personally i think there will be an amnesty after april 1 but i dont think it will be announced before then.that said i wouldnt bet my house on it but i am prepared to risk less than 10% of my quota due to my circumstances and i think it will be set amount per supplier rather than percentage over the country.do ye think its possible to hold the last 3 days milk for everyone both over and under quota or will fellas insist on their milk being collected because they are under quota. ithink but im open to correction that it would mean 2 %to the couintry.if there was any price change in the month those under would have to be compensated


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    #49
    stanflt
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    We as farmers should force the coops to give their march price in February also


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    #50
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    stanflt wrote: »
    We as farmers should force the coops to give their march price in February also

    Don't understand, do you mean pay in advance or quote price in Feb?


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    #51
    5live
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    keep going wrote: »
    personally i think there will be an amnesty after april 1 but i dont think it will be announced before then.that said i wouldnt bet my house on it but i am prepared to risk less than 10% of my quota due to my circumstances and i think it will be set amount per supplier rather than percentage over the country.do ye think its possible to hold the last 3 days milk for everyone both over and under quota or will fellas insist on their milk being collected because they are under quota. ithink but im open to correction that it would mean 2 %to the couintry.if there was any price change in the month those under would have to be compensated
    Why should someone on or under quota stop sending their milk to facilitate someone who is gambling on there being no superlevy? I will be on quota on 31st March and have no intention, none whatever, of holding back milk.


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    #52
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭stanflt


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Don't understand, do you mean pay in advance or quote price in Feb?


    Quote price in feb- give lads the option of dumping

    No point think your getting 30cpl and deliver all your milk and then they turn around and pay 25 cpl


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    #53
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    5live wrote: »
    Why should someone on or under quota stop sending their milk to facilitate someone who is gambling on there being no superlevy? I will be on quota on 31st March and have no intention, none whatever, of holding back milk.

    Absolutely spot on. Fortune spent on quota here adding 3c to my fixed costs. I'm recovering as much as I can by being collected on last day after pm milking


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    #54
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    I get my milk price three months in advance. Why can't the world beating Irish Coop's do same?

    Our price is also on an open ticket.
    That means that if price goes up then I get that on top of the quoted base price.

    Hanging about in the limbo of "will they, won't they" is a bit last century imho.


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    #55
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I get my milk price three months in advance. Why can't the world beating Irish Coop's do same?

    Our price is also on an open ticket.
    That means that if price goes up then I get that on top of the quoted base price.

    Hanging about in the limbo of "will they, won't they" is a bit last century imho.

    You can get your price 3 yrs in advance here Fixed price scheme. Last one looking more attractive daily. Index linked also


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    #56
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I get my milk price three months in advance. Why can't the world beating Irish Coop's do same?

    Our price is also on an open ticket.
    That means that if price goes up then I get that on top of the quoted base price.

    Hanging about in the limbo of "will they, won't they" is a bit last century imho.

    I don't get hung on price, look after costs that's my job!! I won't spend any more or less regardless of price. KISS


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    #57
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,076 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I get my milk price three months in advance. Why can't the world beating Irish Coop's do same?

    Our price is also on an open ticket.
    That means that if price goes up then I get that on top of the quoted base price.

    Hanging about in the limbo of "will they, won't they" is a bit last century imho.
    excellent point,We still dont know what septembers price was never mind current months.Hard to forward plan been always stuck a month behind.Its a point i meant to raise at last arrabawn board meeting,Note stuck in phone so wont forget next time!


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    #58
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    I don't get hung on price, look after costs that's my job!! I won't spend any more or less regardless of price. KISS

    PRICE IS EVERYTHING !!!!!

    Quote from elderly neighbor from many moons ago.


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    #59
    5live
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Absolutely spot on. Fortune spent on quota here adding 3c to my fixed costs. I'm recovering as much as I can by being collected on last day after pm milking
    I thought it was just me:D


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    #60
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    You can get your price 3 yrs in advance here Fixed price scheme. Last one looking more attractive daily. Index linked also

    That takes up about 1 to 2 hours of my day, every day. Although it's in another sphere of farming.
    Have the same options here of locking in for x amount of time. Thinking of locking in about 30% of my milk production.
    What's on offer from your Coop?


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    #61
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    That takes up about 1 to 2 hours of my day, every day. Although it's in another sphere of farming.
    Have the same options here of locking in for x amount of time. Thinking of locking in about 30% of my milk production.
    What's on offer from your Coop?

    No offer on the table ATM. Can't get a buyer far enough up the hill with the falling GDT


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