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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread IV

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    #6152
    total former
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    C'mere, spotted Donnacha O'Callaghan on TV on Saturday - is he a) injured at the moment and b) contracted for next season?

    I thought he was contracted but hadn't heard about any injury.


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    #6153
    Cookiemunster
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    total former wrote: »
    C'mere, spotted Donnacha O'Callaghan on TV on Saturday - is he a) injured at the moment and b) contracted for next season?

    I thought he was contracted but hadn't heard about any injury.

    Contracted until 2016. Not injured AFAIK just not picked.


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    #6154
    case885
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭case885


    thomond2006 wrote:
    Are we going to have a smaller senior squad next year? It looks that way with the announced comings and goings.


    Academy player's may have more game time than this season. Fellas like Fitzgerald, madigan, Quinlan, burke.


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    #6155
    athtrasna
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    case885 wrote: »
    Academy player's may have more game time than this season. Fellas like Fitzgerald, madigan, Quinlan, burke.

    Quinlan 's kick for the under 20 s today was phenomenal, and under such pressure.. Keatley had better watch out!


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    #6156
    RecordStraight
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    athtrasna wrote: »
    Quinlan 's kick for the under 20 s today was phenomenal, and under such pressure.. Keatley had better watch out!
    He should just watch. Might learn something.


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    #6157
    The Lost Sheep
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Are we going to have a smaller senior squad next year? It looks that way with the announced comings and goings.
    Believe so. With world cup we'll have more games with no internationals playing so good chance to get more of younger guys playing pro12.
    Much cheaper as well and cost probably an issue as well.


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    #6158
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Year is when contract ends.

    HOOKERS

    Mike Sherry 2015
    Damien Varley 2015 - RETIRING
    Duncan Casey 2016
    Niall Scannell 2017
    Kevin O'Byrne 2016
    Eusebio Guinazu 2015

    Max Abbott Year 1

    PROPS

    James Cronin 2016
    Dave Kilcoyne 2017
    Peter McCabe undisclosed

    BJ Botha January 2016
    Stephen Archer 2018
    John Ryan 2016
    Alan Cotter 2015 - LEAVING (AIX-EN-PROVENCE)
    Martin Kelly 2015 - RETIRING

    Niall Horan Year 2
    Rory Burke Year 2
    Brian Scott Year 1

    LOCKS

    Paul O'Connell 2016 - LEAVING (TBC/Toulon)
    Donnacha Ryan 2017
    Donncha O'Callaghan 2016
    Dave Foley 2017
    Billy Holland 2016

    Sean McCarthy Year 2
    John Madigan Year 2
    Darragh Moloney Year 1

    FLANKERS

    Peter O'Mahony 2018
    Dave O'Callaghan 2016
    Sean Dougall 2015 - LEAVING (PAU)
    Tommy O'Donnell 2016
    Barry O'Mahony 2015 - LEAVING (TBC/RETIREMENT)
    Shane Buckley 2016
    Jordan Coghlan 2016 - ARRIVING

    Ryan Murphy Year 3

    NUMBER EIGHTS

    Robin Copeland 2016
    Paddy Butler 2015 - LEAVING (TBC)
    CJ Stander 2016
    Jack O'Donoghue 2018

    SCRUM-HALVES

    Conor Murray 2016
    Cathal Sheridan 2016
    Duncan Williams 2017
    Tomas O'Leary 2017 - ARRIVING

    Jack Cullen Year 2
    Ryan Foley Year 1
    Jame Glynn Year 1

    FLY-HALVES

    Ian Keatley 2017
    JJ Hanrahan 2015 - LEAVING (NORTHAMPTON SAINTS)
    Tyler Bleyendall 2017
    Johnny Holland 2017

    Gearoid Lyons Year 2

    CENTRES

    Ivan Dineen 2015 - LEAVING (TBC)
    Cian Bohane 2017
    Denis Hurley 2016
    Andrew Smith 2015 - LEAVING (TBC)
    Francis Saili 2017 - ARRIVING

    Rory Scannell Year 2
    Dan Goggin Year 1

    WINGERS

    Simon Zebo 2016
    Keith Earls 2016
    Gerhard Van Den Heever 2016
    Johne Murphy 2015 - LEAVING (TBC)
    Andrew Conway 2016
    Luke O'Dea 2015
    Ronan O'Mahony 2017
    Darren Sweetnam 2017

    Alex Wootton Year 2
    Greg O'Shea Year 2

    FULLBACKS

    Felix Jones 2017

    David Johnston Year 2
    Stephen Fitzgerald Year 1

    Updated list with today's news. Interestingly there was no mention of either Luke O'Dea or Guinazu leaving, so maybe both are staying on?

    It looks like Munster will have a smaller squad next year but many of the players let go have been long term injury casualties this season.

    http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/20717.php#.VW8pvMt0yHs


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    #6159
    CatFromHue
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    What's the story with Sherry?


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    #6160
    thomond2006
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    CatFromHue wrote: »
    What's the story with Sherry?
    I don't know, unless I've missed an announcement on an extension. I assume, like Bleyendaal, they will keep him on the books and see how his rehab progresses.


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    #6161
    total former
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    Keeping Guinazu would mean 5 senior hookers on the books though, that's not ideal.


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    #6162
    balbriggan100
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    You need to update Paul O'Connell's status also.


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    #6163
    Wang King
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    And Butler is officially gone to Pau also


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    #6164
    total former
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    Is that the first confirmation of Murphy's departure? No surprise, it's been coming since the start of the season, but with him and Dineen gone, you're seriously light on cover in the centre.

    Edit: and if Saili only arrives in October and Earls goes to the World Cup, could be an issue.


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    #6165
    thomond2006
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    Wang King wrote: »
    And Butler is officially gone to Pau also

    Link? I didn't see anything on rugbyrama.


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    #6166
    athtrasna
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    [ Interestingly there was no mention of either Luke O'Dea or Guinazu leaving, so maybe both are staying on?

    Talks ongoing with both according to one of the journos on twitter...forgive me for not looking back to see who. Announcements due by the end of the month.


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    #6167
    balbriggan100
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    total former wrote: »
    Is that the first confirmation of Murphy's departure? No surprise, it's been coming since the start of the season, but with him and Dineen gone, you're seriously light on cover in the centre.

    Edit: and if Saili only arrives in October and Earls goes to the World Cup, could be an issue.

    I think Rory Scannell will get a a fair bit of game time at centre next season in Pro12


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    #6168
    Wang King
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Link? I didn't see anything on rugbyrama.

    I think I linked it a week or two ago, it was Coughlan who said it that he had talked to him about Pau, but only after the deal was done (paraphrasing)


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    #6169
    thomond2006
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    balbriggan100 wrote: »
    I think Rory Scannell will get a a fair bit of game time at centre next season in Pro12

    I assumed they were going to promote him early but he wasn't mentioned with the other development contracts.

    Anyone know if Diarmuid McCarthy is signing?


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    #6170
    The Lost Sheep
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I assumed they were going to promote him early but he wasn't mentioned with the other development contracts.

    Anyone know if Diarmuid McCarthy is signing?
    DmcC is in 7s squad. Munster may wait to see how 7s go before they look at signing him up to anything. He hasn't been signed yet AFAIK


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    #6171
    Fireball07
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    balbriggan100 wrote: »
    I think Rory Scannell will get a a fair bit of game time at centre next season in Pro12

    Hopefully, but Saili & Earls are probably our first and second choice 13s, although I'm not sure in which order; Earls could stay on the wing or Saili could be seen as a 12 but we don't have much at 13. Murphy's gone (not that he was great there), Dineen played there a few times, Smith is going... who is left? Bohane if he returns from injury? Dan Goggin?


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    #6172
    hendo12
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    Robbie Henshaw at 13?? Liam Toland mentioned it on Newstalk


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    #6173
    slingerz
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    hendo12 wrote: »
    Robbie Henshaw at 13?? Liam Toland mentioned it on Newstalk

    Salili would be at 13 Henshaw would be at 12 like he is for Ireland if he was to be signed


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    #6174
    slingerz
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    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Hopefully, but Saili & Earls are probably our first and second choice 13s, although I'm not sure in which order; Earls could stay on the wing or Saili could be seen as a 12 but we don't have much at 13. Murphy's gone (not that he was great there), Dineen played there a few times, Smith is going... who is left? Bohane if he returns from injury? Dan Goggin?

    Would like to see Bohane get a good run, very unfortunate with a bad knee injury last year in Waterford.


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    #6175
    phog
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    I'm disappointed that Dineen was let go, obviously, he wasn't highly rated but on the occasions he got a run he did well. He's improved his defence too so I thought he'd get a contract extension.


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    #6176
    thomond2006
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    phog wrote: »
    I'm disappointed that Dineen was let go, obviously, he wasn't highly rated but on the occasions he got a run he did well. He's improved his defence too so I thought he'd get a contract extension.
    He's a good player but he turns 28 next month and has been injury prone. He was unlucky in 2013/14 not to get more big match opportunities after performing in early season matches.


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    #6177
    Yahir Eager Traction
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    He knew a year ago he wasn't getting another contract...


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    #6178
    total former
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    He knew a year ago he wasn't getting another contract...

    Ssshhhh


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    #6179
    phog
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    He knew a year ago he wasn't getting another contract...

    ah go on post it


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    #6180
    thomond2006
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    Oh yeah I forgot about that. Good point.

    Same goes for Johne.


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    #6181
    The Lost Sheep
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    Academy for next season announced
    http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/20721.php#.VXBr37jbLMx
    New players added are:
    Ned Hodson (Centre/Cork Con), Ben Kilkenny (Back-row/Young Munster), Steven McMahon (Winger/Garryowen), Liam O'Connor (Prop/Cork Con), Conor Oliver (Back-row/St Mary's), JP Phelan (Prop/UCD), Tomás Quinlan (Outhalf/Cork Con).


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