The Sunday Game Thread

Jayop · 30-07-2015 04:34PM

Pretty much anyone I know that has told me they like Brolly's analysis is a moron who knows nothing about football but thinks he's entertaining. That's not really what he's there for.

Dick phelan · 30-07-2015 04:47PM

I won't say anything personally against Brolly, the work he has done regarding organ donation and donating a kidney himself is incredibly admirable, however as a pundit i'm sick of him, would it have killed him to praise Kildare instead he went on about a refereeing decision from weeks ago, As has been said he's all about making headlines and saying something controversial the same with Dunphy and football, Himself and Spillane need to be replaced imo.

Stoner · 31-07-2015 01:43AM

So you think Corks problems in hurling are rooted in their underage performance, and you don't like Brolly?

Jayop · 31-07-2015 01:59AM

Stoner wrote: »

So you think Corks problems in hurling are rooted in their underage performance, and you don't like Brolly?

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Believe me, there's no one in Ireland less qualified to comment on hurling. Love to watch it, not got a clue about it beyond the cosmetic.

Big balls for me stoner.

nice_guy80 · 31-07-2015 09:16AM

Jayop wrote: »

Believe me, there's no one in Ireland less qualified to comment on hurling. Love to watch it, not got a clue about it beyond the cosmetic.

Big balls for me stoner.

Derry play hurling too

Jayop · 31-07-2015 03:20PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Derry play hurling too

So do Tyrone and most other Ulster Counties, but at a level that's not even close to the top sides.

I just don't know enough about the game to have any kind of an educated opinion on it.

Very Bored · 31-07-2015 05:57PM

I disagree with the idea that Brolly etc. are there solely to analyse. At the end of the day, sport is for entertainment. Yes, their primary role is to analyse, and Brolly acted the maggot if he wouldn't talk about the Cork - Kildare match. But I do think they are also there to entertain. I would much rather RTE's coverage with controversial comments and argument than the nicey nice super-professional set-up like typical of the BBC. I suppose a mix of the two is the best route, which is why I think John McEnroe is superb as a commentator. His analysis is top notch but he's also unafraid to speak his mind and trigger debate. In terms of hurling, I think Liam Sheedy goes close. I never liked him as a manager, though Kilkenny bias may have had something to do with that, but as an analyst I think he's very good.

keeponhurling · 31-07-2015 08:21PM

Very Bored wrote: »

I disagree with the idea that Brolly etc. are there solely to analyse. At the end of the day, sport is for entertainment. Yes, their primary role is to analyse, and Brolly acted the maggot if he wouldn't talk about the Cork - Kildare match. But I do think they are also there to entertain. I would much rather RTE's coverage with controversial comments and argument than the nicey nice super-professional set-up like typical of the BBC. I suppose a mix of the two is the best route, which is why I think John McEnroe is superb as a commentator. His analysis is top notch but he's also unafraid to speak his mind and trigger debate. In terms of hurling, I think Liam Sheedy goes close. I never liked him as a manager, though Kilkenny bias may have had something to do with that, but as an analyst I think he's very good.

Fair enough, a well articulated viewpoint.

But most viewers of the programme are genuine football fans.

For example my mum doesn't really understand the intricacies of the sport. But likes a bit of craic after.
Brolly is fine for that audience.

If you genuinely are interested in the sport, then it's poor. Shown up badly by TG4 and TV 3

Very Bored · 01-08-2015 09:22AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Fair enough, a well articulated viewpoint.

But most viewers of the programme are genuine football fans.

For example my mum doesn't really understand the intricacies of the sport. But likes a bit of craic after.
Brolly is fine for that audience.

If you genuinely are interested in the sport, then it's poor. Shown up badly by TG4 and TV 3

I would say its the opposite. That more viewers of The Sunday Game are those who tune in to see their county play or perhaps for the bigger games. There will be a core who follow every single game, but I think they'd be fewer in number. Looking at it from a hurling point-of-view, out of all the people I know, only my father-in-law and I religiously watch every single match, I know far more who tune in to the Kilkenny matches only, or perhaps watch Kilkenny, Waterford and Tipperary because of the local rivalry factor. And I am from one of the main hurling counties. If Brolly is there for that kind of audience then I can understand why RTÉ keep him as the bulk of the viewers want that. I'm not amongst that bulk as I very very rarely watch football, and even on the evening edition I either flick around the other channels when the football is on or I turn off the TV. About the only football I watch is Cavan because I have family connections there and so its the only time I can get myself excited enough to enjoy it. But I can understand RTÉ's reasoning.

Personally, I can't stand Donal Óg Cusack. He's forever rattling on about the same thing, and have the same feelings towards Tomás Mulcahy and his anti-Kilkenny agenda. I'd much rather Liam Sheedy. But then, in terms of hurling, I fit into that core you and I are talking about.

In terms of TG4, their analysis is only any good if you understand what they are talking about. I watch the entire u21 championship on it, thoroughly enjoy the matches but turn off straightaway afterwards because I can't understand a blind word they say. That's not a criticism, its an Irish language channel, its just an observation.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 01-08-2015 09:36AM

Very Bored wrote: »

I disagree with the idea that Brolly etc. are there solely to analyse. At the end of the day, sport is for entertainment. Yes, their primary role is to analyse, and Brolly acted the maggot if he wouldn't talk about the Cork - Kildare match. But I do think they are also there to entertain. I would much rather RTE's coverage with controversial comments and argument than the nicey nice super-professional set-up like typical of the BBC. I suppose a mix of the two is the best route, which is why I think John McEnroe is superb as a commentator. His analysis is top notch but he's also unafraid to speak his mind and trigger debate. In terms of hurling, I think Liam Sheedy goes close. I never liked him as a manager, though Kilkenny bias may have had something to do with that, but as an analyst I think he's very good.

The problem with that is that Brolly doesn't entertain either.

keane2097 · 01-08-2015 09:36AM

I find it impossible to believe that anyone has polled all the people they know to find out which games they watch on the Sunday Game.

Very Bored · 01-08-2015 09:46AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The problem with that is that Brolly doesn't entertain either.

No, but the debate he causes might well do.

keane2097 wrote: »

I find it impossible to believe that anyone has polled all the people they know to find out which games they watch on the Sunday Game.

Don't be ridiculous. If it makes you feel better, I was talking about all the people I know closely, its not that hard to know who, amongst your family and a few important friends who does and doesn't watch the hurling every week. There's really no need to engage the services of IPSOS-MRBI here... :rolleyes:

keane2097 · 01-08-2015 12:35PM

Very Bored wrote: »

No, but the debate he causes might well do.

Don't be ridiculous. If it makes you feel better, I was talking about all the people I know closely, its not that hard to know who, amongst your family and a few important friends who does and doesn't watch the hurling every week. There's really no need to engage the services of IPSOS-MRBI here... :rolleyes:

I don't think your sample is meaningful.

If you look at the Sky Sports thread you'll find dozens of posts in direct opposition. Heaps of people for whom apparently everyone they know watches the Sunday Game utterly religiously whose lives have been thrown into darkness and disarray by the moving of a quarter of the games to Sky.

It's almost as if people are just making up survey samples of viewership based on the point of view they happen to hold.

Very Bored · 01-08-2015 12:49PM

Why are you talking again about surveys when no-one mentioned surveys. Those who criticise the Sky deal have an agenda and will communicate that accordingly. Just because my comment doesn't suit your argument doesn't automatically invalidate it, to suggest so is a futile argument. The fluctuation of viewing figures, rising sharply for the bigger counties and the bigger games and decreasing sharply for games between lesser teams would suggest that the bulk of people do alter their viewing habits according to who is playing. Any type of sports coverage is the same otherwise why do you think having first pick is such an important part of the bidding process?

tanko · 02-08-2015 12:36AM

Unfortunately I had to listen to Brian Carthy on RTE radio for the first half of the Donegal v Galway game. His bias in favour of Galway was hard to stomach.
He must have been well pi$$ed off at the result.

Stoner · 02-08-2015 12:49AM

tanko wrote:

Unfortunately I had to listen to Brian Carthy on RTE radio for the first half of the Donegal v Galway game. His bias in favour of Galway was hard to stomach. He must have been well pi$$ed off at the result.

RTE always do that for the West remember the year Armagh played Sligo and it went to a replay. The bias from RTE towards Sligo was shocking considering that Armagh had so little success up to that .

donegaLroad · 02-08-2015 01:05AM

who sold the GAA coverage license to Sky and why?

I listened to today's game on the radio, partially because the local pub was too packed.. as did some other members of the family.

I would have liked to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Does this mean now, that the All Ireland semi finals and final coverage are exclusive to Sky only? This is our national game, why can it not be broadcast by our national broadcaster.

I cant even find footage of today's games on the GAA website, or RTE for that matter.

Thank you GAA for selling the viewing rights to Sky.. you complete shower

nice_guy80 · 02-08-2015 01:29AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

who sold the GAA coverage license to Sky and why?

I listened to today's game on the radio, partially because the local pub was too packed.. as did some other members of the family.

I would have liked to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Does this mean now, that the All Ireland semi finals and final coverage are exclusive to Sky only? This is our national game, why can it not be broadcast by our national broadcaster.

I cant even find footage of today's games on the GAA website, or RTE for that matter.

Thank you GAA for selling the viewing rights to Sky.. you complete shower

You do realise today's Donegal game was a qualifier game?

donegaLroad · 02-08-2015 01:32AM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

You do realise today's Donegal game was a qualifier game?

so will the semi finals and final will be broadcast live by RTE?

ProudDUB · 02-08-2015 01:36AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

so will the semi finals and final will be broadcast live by RTE?

Yes. SKY only have exclusive rights to a relatively small number of games. The majority will still be on RTE, including the AI semi finals and finals, in both codes.

Highlights of todays games will be on The Sunday Game tomorrow. They won't be on the RTE website yet, as they don't have the broadcast rights to them.

Nidgeweasel · 02-08-2015 01:39AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

who sold the GAA coverage license to Sky and why?

I listened to today's game on the radio, partially because the local pub was too packed.. as did some other members of the family.

I would have liked to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Does this mean now, that the All Ireland semi finals and final coverage are exclusive to Sky only? This is our national game, why can it not be broadcast by our national broadcaster.

I cant even find footage of today's games on the GAA website, or RTE for that matter.

Thank you GAA for selling the viewing rights to Sky.. you complete shower

10/10 for dramatics.

donegaLroad · 02-08-2015 01:41AM

ProudDUB wrote: »

Yes. SKY only have exclusive rights to a relatively small number of games. The majority will still be on RTE, including the AI semi finals and finals, in both codes.

Highlights of todays games will be on The Sunday Game tomorrow. They won't be on the RTE website yet, as they don't have the broadcast rights to them.

ok, sorry, I didn't know this.. still though, its a poor show by the GAA who are remaining tight-lipped about the deal with Sky. Who the hell gave them the right to sell on viewing rights to Sky?

donegaLroad · 02-08-2015 01:44AM

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

10/10 for dramatics.

thought you might be interested in this

ProudDUB · 02-08-2015 02:00AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

ok, sorry, I didn't know this.. still though, its a poor show by the GAA who are remaining tight-lipped about the deal with Sky. Who the hell gave them the right to sell on viewing rights to Sky?

The GAA don't need any ones permission to sell the broadcast rights. They own the rights to their own games. They can sell them to who ever they want.

Pretty fast · 02-08-2015 02:34AM

ProudDUB wrote: »

The GAA don't need any ones permission to sell the broadcast rights. They own the rights to their own games. They can sell them to who ever they want.

Please refrain from the bleeding obvious.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 02-08-2015 08:31AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

so will the semi finals and final will be broadcast live by RTE?

Donegal aren't in the semi final yet.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 02-08-2015 08:33AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

who sold the GAA coverage license to Sky and why?

I listened to today's game on the radio, partially because the local pub was too packed.. as did some other members of the family.

I would have liked to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Does this mean now, that the All Ireland semi finals and final coverage are exclusive to Sky only? This is our national game, why can it not be broadcast by our national broadcaster.

I cant even find footage of today's games on the GAA website, or RTE for that matter.

Thank you GAA for selling the viewing rights to Sky.. you complete shower

Here's a mad idea.

Couldn't you perhaps think of attending a game?

iDave · 02-08-2015 08:36AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

who sold the GAA coverage license to Sky and why?

I listened to today's game on the radio, partially because the local pub was too packed.. as did some other members of the family.

I would have liked to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Does this mean now, that the All Ireland semi finals and final coverage are exclusive to Sky only? This is our national game, why can it not be broadcast by our national broadcaster.

I cant even find footage of today's games on the GAA website, or RTE for that matter.

Thank you GAA for selling the viewing rights to Sky.. you complete shower

The GAA are legally forbidden from selling All Ireland finals exclusively to a PPV broadcaster.

How do you feel about Donegal league games being only on Setanta?

Very Bored · 02-08-2015 08:39AM

iDave wrote: »

The GAA are legally forbidden from selling All Ireland finals exclusively to a PPV broadcaster.

How do you feel about Donegal league games being only on Setanta?

TG4 shows a lot of NHL and NFL, are there certain counties they can't show?

Fr Tod Umptious · 02-08-2015 08:42AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

who sold the GAA coverage license to Sky and why?

I listened to today's game on the radio, partially because the local pub was too packed.. as did some other members of the family.

I would have liked to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Does this mean now, that the All Ireland semi finals and final coverage are exclusive to Sky only? This is our national game, why can it not be broadcast by our national broadcaster.

I cant even find footage of today's games on the GAA website, or RTE for that matter.

Thank you GAA for selling the viewing rights to Sky.. you complete shower

I'd say you were really pissed when you found out that the Donegal v Mayo game next Saturday is also only on Sky.

You going to have to get to that pub early next Saturday, 6pm throw in.

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