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new ICBF Proofs

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,262 Farrell


    Does Progressive Genetics not own any of the Bull's on their Beef Catelogue?

    Does anyone know anything about this bull?, as in where can you get him? or was he any good?

    Code Breed Birth year Name Owner Index reliability within breed across breed Index reliability within breed across breed
    AAI CH 2005 ASHLEIGH ADMIRAL EUROGENE/LIC AI BULLS €169 81 5 5 €102 70 5 2.5


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,386 ✭✭✭✭ Timmaay


    About 50rows down in the Dairysheet, there is a bull called s1465, with a production subindex of 266!!!! And Protein of +44kgs! Surely a mistake of some sort??

    The few I use like PBM, KSK and JKF all down 20points or so hmmm. Can't complain hugely though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    I saw that.

    His Protein % has jumped from 0.02 to .55. has to be a typo


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    Farrell wrote: »
    Does Progressive Genetics not own any of the Bull's on their Beef Catelogue?

    Does anyone know anything about this bull?, as in where can you get him? or was he any good?

    Code Breed Birth year Name Owner Index reliability within breed across breed Index reliability within breed across breed
    AAI CH 2005 ASHLEIGH ADMIRAL EUROGENE/LIC AI BULLS €169 81 5 5 €102 70 5 2.5


    what makes you say that?

    He's a eurogene bull but I dont think he's available any more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    Proofs are up on bull search now


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭ onyerbikepat


    I see that.
    I see that the limousin bull CASTLEVIEW GRINGO ET (GWO) is 6.1% (85% Rel) for calving for 250 calvings. That's not bad considering he is by Vantastic.
    I might be using him this year.:cool: He's a fine looking bull.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 533 towzer2010


    I see that.
    I see that the limousin bull CASTLEVIEW GRINGO ET (GWO) is 6.1% (85% Rel) for calving for 250 calvings. That's not bad considering he is by Vantastic.
    I might be using him this year.:cool: He's a fine looking bull.

    You wont be sorry. I have a few class calves off him and am using him again this year plus they are the quietest Lims I've ever had.


  • Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭ tismesoitis


    don't be expecting to get milky females out of vantastic breeding!! milk is definatly not his strong point!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 Greengrass1


    Anyone see YAD? very good fert and milk


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,262 Farrell


    what makes you say that?

    He's a eurogene bull but I dont think he's available any more.

    He seams to look the part, only a 2005 so thought he should be still around.
    Eurogene rep never heard of him.
    I'd prefer to use instead of alu


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 533 towzer2010


    Anyone have any calves from the lim bull from dovea kjb?

    Impressive looking bull with good figures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    Farrell wrote: »
    He seams to look the part, only a 2005 so thought he should be still around.
    Eurogene rep never heard of him.
    I'd prefer to use instead of alu

    no why did you say:
    "Does Progressive Genetics not own any of the Bull's on their Beef Catelogue?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭ tanko


    towzer2010 wrote: »
    Anyone have any calves from the lim bull from dovea kjb?

    Impressive looking bull with good figures.

    Haven't seen any calves off him, he looks the business on paper and looks good in the catalogue too. His calving difficulty figure has stayed low also along with good muscle and milk figures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 533 towzer2010


    tanko wrote: »
    Haven't seen any calves off him, he looks the business on paper and looks good in the catalogue too. His calving difficulty figure has stayed low also along with good muscle and milk figures.

    Ya he seems to have the whole package. I must see if my AI man has straws. I'll try him if he has.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭ tanko


    Lennon frosty (FTY) has impressive figures too, apart from docility. Anyone have any calves off him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭ on the river


    heres some from P.G Facebook

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭ onyerbikepat


    I don't get this. Lennon Frosty is by the well known Wilodge Cerberus (WGE).
    Now on the ICBf site. WGE is 18% within breed for docility (92% Rel).
    http://webapp.icbf.com/bull-search/view/700635323

    But according to Basco Data in the UK, he is +2.7 EBV. Not sure of teh exact percentile, but he is about or just above average (50% within breed). At 95% Rel aswell.
    http://www.semenstore.co.uk/limousin/products/wilodge-cerberus.html?section

    How do you explain that one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭ tanko


    The docility figure for FTY has a reliability of 31% so it's only really a guess. I was at a meeting recently where a well known rep from an Ai company said that unless any figure for a bull had a reliability over 90% the figure couldn't really be relied on for sure.
    Reliability is everything with icbf figures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,262 Farrell


    no why did you say:
    "Does Progressive Genetics not own any of the Bull's on their Beef Catelogue?"
    If you look down the list of Owners, they do not appear on it.
    Most of the other AI companies (Bova, Dova, Sligo, Eurogene) are there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 vanderbadger


    towzer2010 wrote: »
    Ya he seems to have the whole package. I must see if my AI man has straws. I'll try him if he has.

    going trying him on a nice breeding cow now this evening and hope for a heifer..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    New proofs are up


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭ tanko


    New proofs are up

    GWO and FTY look very good on paper. Have you seen any calves off them yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    Only photos. GWO seems to be throwing very good stock and not too hard calved.

    Haven't heard too much about FTY other than he's easy enough calved


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭ tanko


    I just had a quick look, is there anything that surprised you on the beef side?


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭✭✭ friesian13


    when are the ebi profiles goin to be updated?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭ stanflt


    friesian13 wrote: »
    when are the ebi profiles goin to be updated?


    Updated already


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭✭✭ friesian13


    sorry i meant the ebi report for my own herd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    tanko wrote: »
    I just had a quick look, is there anything that surprised you on the beef side?

    Didn't get to study that closely myself. KYA very good figures for such an easy calving bull

    TVR's calving gone up even higher!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ just do it


    Didn't get to study that closely myself. KYA very good figures for such an easy calving bull

    TVR's calving gone up even higher!

    Went and had alook at those. How can KYA be 5 star terminal within breed and only be 1 star for carcase weight gain and confirmation within breed? Doesn't make sense


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    Calving ease has such a big barring on the stars now


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