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Planning for Next Year Whats Happend So Far

  • 24-02-2014 12:51pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭


    Sorry for staring my own thing on this. I just feel like I need to put it down somewhere rather than a book..

    We are aiming for the big day to be next year and have started looking into venues/fun things to do/caterers and perhaps rather than looking through all separate threads about things it would be best to put them here.

    The first plan for the big day was something nice a relaxed with a little romantic feeling, crab claws haha, a day all will enjoy and something that would not cost our guests or us too much money. Not you typical hotel either that would be the last upon last thing we would do

    We have looked at three venues so far which were the first venues we thought off and went "yes" we would like to go to a wedding there.

    Caseys of Baltimore - Meet with the lovely Valerie there who was great very, friendly and I would say to be there to help you with all you need on the day. This was as close as we would get to a hotel wedding. The hold civil ceremony's there for a a max me thinks of 40 people seated, you can have more but they would have to stand. It is a strong contender for venues but the only thing that puts us off is one I am not sure if it would hold enough people comfortable and the cost on our guests and for us. Corkage isn't the cheapest and the rooms aren't either. Then there is plenty of self catering houses.hostels that are available so people have a selection of places to stay.

    Blackwater Castle - Madly in love with this place, met Patrick the owner who is very down to earth. A real breath of fresh air compared to hearing about cost for this cost for that you have one cost for them as such for the day and after that it is up to you. There are endless possibilities of what you can do with the venue. You have your own bar so you would pay a fee of just what you get non of this corkage malarkie. The castle is far enough from the main road so you would not have to worry about kiddies on the day they cant get too far. There is plenty to do for everyone, and only one TV on site which I love.. The only bad thing is I am not sure how the flow would work, there are two rooms that you can have the meal and dancing in but I would be worried about the party being split up. What would be ideal is to eat outside but then you are really counting on good weather hahaha is all ill say to go with that. And also there is a bit of a drop out the back wall which would worry me with kids and lets say people who have had a bit too much but I am sure something could be done with this.

    Ballyvolane House - Meet with Eve there a lovely country house with beautiful Gardens. While the house is great and would suit I would think a smaller wedding everything is extra which puts a real downer on it. The set menu alone costs €65 a head with only one option for main course and canapes, late night snacks are all extra so it brings it up to nearly €85 a head. Really lovely spot where you hold the main party as such. You have a covered area where you sit for dinner and the service sounds lovely a bit of serve yourself. They deliver a big plate of each meal to your table and you take what you like. I love this idea. The grounds around the house are lovely and away from the main road again so you would not worry with kids. But it is just the additional prices would put me off.

    Looking at one fab day there and I see the Grainstore in Ballymaloe! Has anyone here every gone to or held a wedding there I would be interested to know any info on this..

    Or if anyone else knows of a nice country house/castle let me know.

    I was trying to find the thread earlier about photobooths but I cant find it. Was watching Ireland Am this morning and saw funkycam.ie looks like a great idea.. The set up is easy enough to do yourself but the only problem you face is who takes the pictures that's where these lads would be good. Has anyone ever used them?

    mmm me thinks that's it for now the mind is ninety miles an hour with plans and what we could do but also what it al costs... scary stuff so it is:p


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I looked into the Grainstore in Ballymaloe. They only quotes prices for the meal, and you have to add in everything else yourself (including any choice on the menu) to get an estimate. I worked out that it would be €140 - €150ish per head :eek:. Now, my sums might have been off, but I've heard from people who've had weddings there say they could have had 3 times as many people if they went somewhere else.

    Then again, if you're not fussed about things like centrepieces, chair covers, red carpet on arrival etc, you'd probably be able to get it for closer to €100 per head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Wow €140ish for food that is madness!! What are they serving.. I shall trust your words, thank you for the info. if that is a general price just for food I would think not. It really is crazy how much some places charge for the food and the drinks etc. That's why I think we are so impressed with Blackwater as it seems to be no hidden charges. Although we have made a list out to ask him as we are arranging another visit there with my mum and sister.

    Drives me mad when you can get a nice bottle of processo lets say for less than €10 but if you bring it in you get corkage of €17 when it is more than likely the same bottle as they would serve themselves..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    Are you definitely going for Cork? All of the above sound cool. I've been to a wedding in Ballyvolane House and I have to say it was one of the best I was ever at. The couple who run the place are so nice, and really couldn't do enough for everyone there. They were on hand all the day before and day of to help out, and the staff and service were excellent. We are copying a lot of their fun elements (such as sharing platters) for our own wedding.

    All I've heard about Ballymaloe is that they are very rigid in what you can and can't do.

    I've heard Barnabrow house is also supposed to be amazing. Never been there myself, but heard great things.

    Looking at the prices you've quoted, they seem about normal for "something different to a hotel". Do bear in mind where your guests will stay and what it will cost them. That was the only downside to Ballyvolane - the only onsite option was glamping which was really expensive.

    Best of luck with all the planning. You've loads of time so enjoy it.

    With regard to photobooths - so many photographers include them in their packages, or have them as an add on option, so don't rush into any until you've spoken to your photographer. You could get a much better deal with them. We looked into Funky Cam and found them quite pushy, and I would think you could have issues getting them into a lot of venues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Yeah I think we would defo be Cork as it is a happy mid-way as such between the two sides of the family.. Would be talking Cork and Kerry and I am not really too familiar with the Kerry side of the world..

    I do love the room for the wedding party in Ballyvolane it is perfect but yes it is a bummer that there is no accommodation really for guests. There was a suggestion of a mini bus but to be honest I cant see people looking forward to a trip in a bus for half hour-ish. Is a loverly venue though I would think if you have the extra money to spend. We didn't get to meet the owners but from doing a bit of research on line and asking a few people they are getting great reviews. Everyone says they are lovely. The serving style sounds great aswell that they just put a big bowl or plate of cake in front of you. Would love something like that.. Adds a bit of fun to the meal. I wonder how much big lazie suzies would be

    On that one I thought of Barnabrow but word on the street is bad.. One girl I know went to a wedding there and the night of the wedding a few of the self catering places were broken into, and cars damaged. The staff were very rude she said just not bothered about anything. The manager on the night decided to up the price or something like that and approached the couple on the evening to say this. :) bad form. I emailed them to ask a few questions and said did they realise that they were getting such bad reviews and strangely heard nothing back from them..

    If Blackwater had the room like Ballyvolane we would defiantly be sold on it. It would make, we think, a cheaper option for us and for guests going. There are rooms I think 9 in the Castle itself and then another house onsite that has three double rooms and a dormitory still building that can sleep 40 (it is just who would opt for this) and then the village is only a few mins away..

    It is just the extras will they end up costing as much as it would be to go to a standard spot. We can do a lot ourselves regarding decorating, music and creating an ambience but will that all work..

    Funky Cam were a bit pushy then? Can I ask did they quote a price, there was a mention of around €200 on the show? We are kind of thinking of not getting a photographer!! Don't know is that asking for trouble but I for one hate photos and we do have a lot of people going who love to take photos so we were thinking of asking them to take a few snaps of the day.. Thinking now I suppose we could set up one room for a photo booth scene and just have the camera on a tripod..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Have you looked at ballinacurra house near kinsale?
    http://ballinacurra.com

    Two of my siblings got married there. Nice spot. They do civil as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Hi pwurple, dya know I forgot to get back again for Ballinacurra we had a viewing booked but had to cancel and I meant to make another. A friend slightly put us off because he said he went to a wedding there and it was a bit too posh! Did you feel this at any stage, or was it the opposite.. Might make an date to view it again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    pwurple wrote: »
    Have you looked at ballinacurra house near kinsale?
    http://ballinacurra.com

    Two of my siblings got married there. Nice spot. They do civil as well.

    I was gonna suggest this too … I've been there (not for a wedding) and it's lovely. Kinsale is great for photo ops too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    Milly33 wrote: »

    Funky Cam were a bit pushy then? Can I ask did they quote a price, there was a mention of around €200 on the show? We are kind of thinking of not getting a photographer!! Don't know is that asking for trouble but I for one hate photos and we do have a lot of people going who love to take photos so we were thinking of asking them to take a few snaps of the day.. Thinking now I suppose we could set up one room for a photo booth scene and just have the camera on a tripod..

    A bit pushy, but then when you compare them to some people who never even reply to your emails, that's not a bad thing! The cheapest price on their price list is €360, and that's without a single photo printed.

    I know what you mean about a photographer, but most photographers these days have a really relaxed style, where you don't even know they are there. While it might not seem like a big thing now - after the wedding, the photos are the only thing you have left of the day - you'll never wear the dress again, the food is eaten, the band are finished playing.... so even though it's costly, it's the only thing you'll get the benefit of for the next 50 years! That's the way we looked at it anyway. If you want to cut costs, you can go for a digital only package, where you don't get an album. When looking, look for someone who does reportage or documentary style, as that'll mean they're in the background, and won't do posed shots unless you ask them! Check out the listings on One Fab Day (although these tend to be the most expensive). As I said, a lot of them include photo booths in their package.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Ok so I shall get back to Ballincurra and see what they are like thank you all.

    And ohh I just saw a nice black and white photo in my head of the day. Smiles and bbq so perhaps we should look into some for photos if even just for a few hours it might be worth it as you say, when it is just the one day.

    I thought the price for the Funky Cam would inc the printing out or well that it would cover all. Just thought there aswell it might be a nice touch to do it ourselves. As I love things like Halloween and dress up I do have a load of mini little bits that you could put as little props people could use to make the photos fun..Get some of those little glasses on a stick and moustaches..

    the drawing board is getting too big. Just though there oh I know what kind of save the date I would do but sure even if I made them now tis too early to send out...I suppose I could make and have them all ready to go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    We went to view the Grainstore in Ballymaloe and fell absolutely in love with it but their package was €120 per head and everything else is extra - printing menus and table plans? extra! service charge? extra! And the wedding planner also said that she recommends that every couple spends upwards of €800 on decorating the room. And there is no haggling at all to be done with them. Oh and she was over an hour late meeting us and was that late meeting another friend of mine previously. To be honest I wish we hadn't gone to see it because I loved it so much but it's so ridiculously out of our price range that I was only upset afterwards.

    I priced Ballinacurra but it was again was out of our price range. A friend was at a wedding there though and said it was amazing.

    On Ballyvolane, again a little too expensive (God I sound cheap!) but I also heard from someone that the yurts were mildewy which is a little euwwww to me but then again this was heard from someone and not something I saw with my own two eyes. I loved the look of it though (we didn't go visit due to the out of our price range issue and how grumpy I was after visiting Ballymaloe!).

    To be honest I think places in Cork are fairly over priced for something unusual which I was really disappointed with, we have gone with Horetown House in Wexford which I know is probably not suitable for you but we decided that the venue was more important to us than the location so went wild altogether.

    One tip - don't get yourself tied up in knots about the venue. I was totally stressing and kept adding more and more places onto our list to look at and just didn't enjoy it. We were under a time constraint as we wanted it booked before I headed abroad for 7 weeks but eventually when we saw Horetown House we just loved it and went with it. It ended up being really easy, maybe 2 weekends of viewings, and not worth all the pressure I was putting on the search.

    Good luck, sorry for my big long missive!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Milly33 wrote: »
    Hi pwurple, dya know I forgot to get back again for Ballinacurra we had a viewing booked but had to cancel and I meant to make another. A friend slightly put us off because he said he went to a wedding there and it was a bit too posh! Did you feel this at any stage, or was it the opposite.. Might make an date to view it again

    The two weddings were completely different. One was a bbq with bottles of beer in ice baths around the place. As laid back as you could get. A guy with a guitar outside on the steps.

    The other was sit down 5 course meal. Quite posh.

    So I think it really depends on what you arrange yourself. The venue itself is flexible enough to do either.

    Only thing is, they can be pushy with the two night minimum hire thing. They have single night hires as well, but you need to be flexible with dates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭CinSoots


    kkcatlou wrote: »
    With regard to photobooths - so many photographers include them in their packages, or have them as an add on option, so don't rush into any until you've spoken to your photographer. You could get a much better deal with them. We looked into Funky Cam and found them quite pushy, and I would think you could have issues getting them into a lot of venues.

    Just be aware that the vast majority of "photobooths" provided by photographers are not in actual fact a photobooth but a photographer with a camera on a tripod taking pics against a wall. They also rarely do any printing on the night. I've seen and used both and the difference is night and day in both useability and enjoyment.

    You really arent comparing like with like so if you want a proper booth for your wedding then Google photobooth and you will find the proper ones on page 1. I'm not sure how funkycam works to be honest for a wedding. I can't imagine many people going out to the carpark to use it in ****ty weather Ireland?? Great idea for a concert though!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    €120 a head sounds very pricey alright and the €800 for decorating sure why should there be something like that isn't it up to each couple how they decorate it? Shame sounds like you found the perfect spot with it, I can feel your pain with not taking it, but perhaps if the planner was that late and known for it and they like to add their prices it was meant to be.. Don't worry you don't sound cheap. We have done out a rough plan and plan to really spend no more than €10,000 from looking around people seem to think this is cheap but feck it to me that's is more than enough. If it went to much more I think well be having a garden party at home.

    I was only saying to himself last night about the photo's me thinks I might look into someone now well see and just set up our own spot really to take the photos. We would have loads of room in the carpark for something like funky cam but again if tis raining like said im sure people wont want to be running in and out of the rain..

    Thinking of the one venue now constant so I am hoping I am not stuck on it.. I am open minded now if we did find somewhere else, just I kinda want to have something to plan. I only work three days so find myself bored off my nut for the other two so using the wedding planning to fill the time, thank god really because I nearly have the house scrubbed to death :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Just incase also if anyone was interested in Chip Van I just got a nice PM there from The Chip Van.ie looks like a nice set up and a good deal also...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    We have done out a rough plan and plan to really spend no more than €10,000 from looking around people seem to think this is cheap but feck it to me that's is more than enough.

    Milly33 - do you mean €10k for everything, as in Don't Tell the Bride style or for the venue + food + drink? How many people are you planning to invite? Most non hotel type venues charge between €2.5-7k for rental alone, and then you're talking food and drinks (arrivals drinks + wine at dinner) of between €60-90 per head on top of that, so even for a small wedding of 80-100 people, you'd be lucky to get it in at under €10k. And then of course you have everything else on top of that.
    Just be aware that the vast majority of "photobooths" provided by photographers are not in actual fact a photobooth but a photographer with a camera on a tripod taking pics against a wall. They also rarely do any printing on the night. I've seen and used both and the difference is night and day in both useability and enjoyment.
    Thanks CinSoots, I'm aware of this, and having been at weddings where both were present, I preferred the photographer option - the photos were better quality, the photographer got people going and involved, and it was just more fun all round. The photobooth in the corner kinda sat there until we were all drunk enough to join in, and then the photos were just silly. That said, it was good to have them to take away as a souvenir, as as you say, with the photographer option you don't get prints on the night!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭CinSoots


    kkcatlou wrote: »
    Thanks CinSoots, I'm aware of this, and having been at weddings where both were present, I preferred the photographer option - the photos were better quality, the photographer got people going and involved, and it was just more fun all round. The photobooth in the corner kinda sat there until we were all drunk enough to join in, and then the photos were just silly. That said, it was good to have them to take away as a souvenir, as as you say, with the photographer option you don't get prints on the night!

    I work in the wedding industry so I have seen a lot of these and I've never seen the photobooth just sat in the corner!! Usually there is a queue to use it straight after dinner.

    The photographer does indeed have to get people going and involved as people in the main don't feel comfortable in front of a camera so don't want to do it whereas with the both they can use it as they please without any pressure from a fun loving photographer!! Some people don't like to be pressurised into doing things!

    Also the whole idea of the photobooth is the print at the end of it. Without that what's the point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    CinSoots wrote: »
    I work in the wedding industry so I have seen a lot of these and I've never seen the photobooth just sat in the corner!! Usually there is a queue to use it straight after dinner.

    The photographer does indeed have to get people going and involved as people in the main don't feel comfortable in front of a camera so don't want to do it whereas with the both they can use it as they please without any pressure from a fun loving photographer!! Some people don't like to be pressurised into doing things!

    Also the whole idea of the photobooth is the print at the end of it. Without that what's the point?

    Thanks for that! Hey, look, it's just my opinion! I had more craic at the one where there was a photographer, so for that reason, that's what we're going with.

    I totally see your point re: no print at the end of it, but my friends that had a photographer based on, sent on the slideshow afterwards, and there was a whatsapp group that went on for literally a week after laughing over it when they sent it around! It was hilarious! Another friend brought us all over to her house to look at theirs, and again we had a great night falling around laughing! The only alternative I was thinking of was to have a polaroid along with the photographer (if they'd be OK with that) so you could also print some of the pics?! I might look into it.

    The photographer was great at giving us ideas for funny things to do, and got us going early in the night. I suppose it depends on your photographer really. As with any of these things, after a few drinks nobody was self conscious and everyone had a go (or 4) even the oldies.

    The one where there was a physical booth, we did have a laugh, but nobody really went near it until we got word that it was finishing up in 20 minutes, and then as you say, there was a big queue, and it got frantic.

    But again, I suppose it really does depend on both the photographer and the crowd at the wedding!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    yep it would be €10 as the same as don't tell the bride. I think tis mad spending anymore.. I suppose im kind of lucky as I am quite creative, my mum is a florist and a darn good one, we kinda know a few people in the music scene. But even taking away those few things I think it is quite possible to do it for this price.. I will try my best to keep this thread going until the big day itself just to see how it all works out.

    The most common thing I have heard is Delegate to those who you think would like to get more involved. I trust people who we would like to invite to think that they would be more than happy to help us out.. So far the venue is the most pricey thing and after that me thinks is going to be the food. Hooneymoon there is nothing planned for to be honest I would be more than happy going camping and stopping off in Caseys for crab claws!! We have the rest of out lifes to do big grand trips, this is just the start of it. Dress although I want a nice one €1,000 max is the limit for that, I don't mind second hand or even one that is not labelled as a wedding dress all the rest then just depends..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    The room is Ballymaloe is totally blank so hence why the decoration needs but when I asked could we decorate it she said she recommends couples not to do that to avoid stress!! Chancer, it was money in her pocket if we went with her as coincidentally she was a designer as well. Anyway, delighted with our choice of Horetown House now and don't feel like we are being taken for a complete ride.

    10k does seem fairly low but if you do keep this thread going than I could use some help in getting our budget down. So far with the venue and drink we are already over 10k!! We'll save in other areas I imagine but it's not going to be easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    10K is absolutely plenty for a gorgeous wedding. Our wedding was below that for 70 people and we paid for some peoples rooms, all the wedding party stuff etc. this was the noughties as well when everyone was charging top whack.

    Your dress budget is even high... Second hand is the way to go for that. People sell gorgeous dresses after one use, and you can sell it again straight away afterwards.

    Irish site here:
    http://www.sellmyweddingdress.net


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭CorkClaire82


    pwurple wrote: »
    10K is absolutely plenty for a gorgeous wedding. Our wedding was below that for 70 people and we paid for some peoples rooms, all the wedding party stuff etc. this was the noughties as well when everyone was charging top whack.

    Your dress budget is even high... Second hand is the way to go for that. People sell gorgeous dresses after one use, and you can sell it again straight away afterwards.

    Irish site here:
    http://www.sellmyweddingdress.net

    Based on our experience something unusual is more expensive but then again we are having 160 guests so it is always going to be on the expensive end!!

    Thanks for that link, those dresses look great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    Milly33 wrote: »
    yep it would be €10 as the same as don't tell the bride. I think tis mad spending anymore.. I suppose im kind of lucky as I am quite creative, my mum is a florist and a darn good one, we kinda know a few people in the music scene. But even taking away those few things I think it is quite possible to do it for this price.. I will try my best to keep this thread going until the big day itself just to see how it all works out.

    The most common thing I have heard is Delegate to those who you think would like to get more involved. I trust people who we would like to invite to think that they would be more than happy to help us out.. So far the venue is the most pricey thing and after that me thinks is going to be the food. Hooneymoon there is nothing planned for to be honest I would be more than happy going camping and stopping off in Caseys for crab claws!! We have the rest of out lifes to do big grand trips, this is just the start of it. Dress although I want a nice one €1,000 max is the limit for that, I don't mind second hand or even one that is not labelled as a wedding dress all the rest then just depends..

    Wow, fair play to you if you can keep it under €10k. What numbers are you looking at? I'm not doubting you in any way, I'm in awe - but as I said, rental alone for most of your type of venues is €5k and then €60-100 on top of that for food and drink, so you must be having tiny numbers.

    We're doing something similar to you - my Mam is also an excellent wedding florist, I'm doing my own cake, we're not getting cars, have family doing make up, DJ, videography, etc. I got my dress (a Jenny Packham) for €450 in a sample sale, yet I still can't see how we'll get away with under €30k for a country house wedding for 160 people.

    Do keep us posted on how things go as I think we could all use a few tips here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Hello all, oh skitting at that link name for some reason all i saw was smellyweddingdress haha.. Thanks pwurple they look pretty amazing alright. Yep I would have no problem going second hand, once it fits ill be happy...

    I shall indeed keep all updated with prices as such or how it goes. I must get another book to keep track of that. That is pretty mad for the lady in Ballymaloe to say they would do the decorating for that price, since they probably have half the stuff anywho to use for general use. I plan to make a lot of our own.

    Was thinking perhaps potted herbs in those silver small buckets, would put the table numbers then on a stick lets say or the top of a stick and pop it into the bucket. I can make them also just need some card, sticky stuff and some sort and skewers.

    Mum came up with a good way of getting rid of a lot of old slate we have at home, we can use that for signage.

    If we are going down the route of needing flower containers, I am opting for a mass selection of jam jars, also for tea lights too. Just get a pretty piece of lace or dollie and stick around the jar to fancy it up and wal-la!! tis a fancy jar..

    What else, might try this teaming up notion also. My cousin is getting married this year and already, her friend who got married has passed decorations onto her, and if well their nice i might ask her would she like me to take them off her hand haha.. I hope she doesnt read this as I havent asked yet!! But thats a great idea to team up would save a lot..

    Still trying to see how much food would be cough cough pigspit waiting three days now for a reply tut tut.. Might call into a few places at the weekend and see.

    Tying to look into the ceremony part now also to get an idea. I priced the humanist and that was €460 or there abouts which i think is mad.

    I know it is €150 anyway off hand isnt it for the registry as such no matter what you do.

    I might see how much a civil service would cost, or a church wedding near the location which it think all we would need is a letter of freedom and then pay the priest there. Or perhaps another option is to just call to the registry office for the €150 get that done and then maybe ask one of the monks to do a blessing!! Is there any other cost's I am missing beside the €150 for registry and the letter of freedom if needed? are the only other cost just what whoever, priest, druid, monk, random person is going to charge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭pooch90


    It's 200 for the HSE now.
    You would need to pay for your pre marriage course,contribution to priest/sacristan/altar servers etc.
    That's before you decorate church, pay musicians/choir/organist.

    Humanist, one off payment, job done. You still have the HSE payment tho.

    Just on the photo booth, our photographer is setting up a back drop and doing it that way. No print outs on the night but he is going to put them all up on his Facebook page/website and people can download them from there. We get them on a disc I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    They find a way to charge for all don't they. €200 right I will pencil that one in.

    I didn't think the marriage course was more too, oh dear perhaps we can find an old ruin of a church and work from there haha so we might get out of it that way. Id say we would be ok for singers probably just have a guitar tune..

    God just thinking now a few of the hotels charge again for having the civil ceremony there aswell so if you were to do that in a hotel as such you would be paying them €350/€400 and then more again for the civil servant and what not..

    We are going to call down again on Sunday to the area and im going to have a look at the churches there perhaps I might come across a priest and have a chat with him..

    That sounds fair enough with the photobooth at least you can still access them from facebook so there wont be any extra charge..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Based on our experience something unusual is more expensive but then again we are having 160 guests so it is always going to be on the expensive end!!

    Thanks for that link, those dresses look great.

    Mine was non-traditional... I think that's what kept the costs way down actually. We skipped the church, and brought the priest outdoors. Saved decorating and paying for a church. :)

    Had a garden party type meal/drinks rather than sit-down meal.

    Didn't bother with massive fancy-decorated cake, got three large chocolate cakes from a local baker that morning and put them on nice stands.

    Car to bring me and dad there was a family friends vintage car. And the friend drove it!

    Dress was second hand. Had a second short dress from monsoon sale for later on.

    Kept the numbers down.
    Invitations were printed on nice card at a local printer, but no tassles, lace or glittery things.

    Did the flowers myself, mostly from my own garden and my grandmothers garden.

    Kept the wedding party small.

    Neighbours did ceremony music.

    Didn't have any gimmicky things like favours or personalised napkins etc.

    It was a two day party, we went to a local pub the next day, they included pizzas for us and there was a guy on guitar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    any bride who gets excited and puts glitter or small little star things in the invites should be shot.

    I've got 2 or 3 of those over the years, opened the envelopes without knowing the glitter was in there. congrats on the engagement, thanks for the invite, but how'd you like it if I went round your house and threw a load of shiny glitter on your carpet that youll still be finding 6 weeks later despite 10 hoovers


    :mad::mad::mad:


    rant over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Yeah, i open my post over dinner quite often. Dinners have been ruined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    haha so noted do not put sparkles' in the invites, that would be quite annoying!!

    We are at an odds with how many to invite I think when it comes down to it once we have the venue well go from there.We can either do it big or small really it would be my extended family that would make it a big wedding and neighbours.

    Something like the lines of Pwurple and kkcatlou style wedding by the sound of it. Just something relaxed and fun..I like the garden party style if we could just get the weather..

    I got a quote back from Pigspit yesterday for the food, cutlery and people to serve. They are quite reasonable based on 120 people it was 39.50 a head but that is for canapes on arrival, dinner and late night nibbles as well.They have quite a nice selction.

    Also got one back from Elite Catering on Monaghan road and depending what you do here it could work out pretty cheap but I don't think they supply the cutlery and waiting staff, but I shall have to call down there and ask them what they would offer..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Milly33 wrote: »
    Or if anyone else knows of a nice country house/castle let me know.

    Have you looked at Tankardstown house? Not sure if location suits you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Oh looks nice alright but defo too far..We are hoping really for somewhere in Cork really.. Doesn't really have to be a particular wedding spot even someplace that has a hall and accom close for people to stay..tis a hard thing to find


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭pooch90


    Don't know where in cork you are but a friend of ours put up a marquee at Sam Maguire's homestead in Dunmanway, was nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Just look there, yeah something like that would be funky. We seem to have gone back to step one now, and looking at houses. My mum suggested DunOwen house just outside of Clon! Have been onto them and well call to see it. Looks quite nice if you put a marquee up out the front or something..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 caveatemptor1


    What about something a bit different from a house or specific venue.

    The Sirius Arts centre in Cobh is stunning, right on the water and I know they do civil weddings.
    Or the Royal Cork Yacht club in Crosshaven do weddings and that would be very different, there is a beautiful patio overlooking the harbour for a drinks reception.
    A golf club maybe?
    If you like Baltimore, Glebe gardens and Inis Beg are both stunning and you could tailor them to your budget.
    Or the rectory in Glandore is so pretty.
    Even a restaurant could work, Bunnyconellen in Myrtleville, Crosshaven is right up on a cliff and Ive heard they do weddings.
    Hope this helps :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Called the Registry office in Cork yesterday just to have a chat have to say they were very nice. Did not get the name of the chap I spoke to but he was very helpful as the HSE and websites for all are rubbish bring you in circles.

    Anywho didn't realise the €200 fee was including the a ceremony at the registry office which is handy to know.
    Also they said for lets say a Cork wedding that the civil servant would have to travel to it would be an extra cost of €200.

    I was expecting a lot more than that, now I wonder does it depend on the civil servant themselves! Still if it is the €400 it is a lot cheaper than the humanist and celtic priest. That option is looking good.

    Incase anyone else wants it he said a handy email to have if there are anyquestions is crs@hse.ie there is suppose to be a website www.groireland.ie that gives you a list of local registers but it does not seem to exist..

    Thanks for the list of other venues caveatemptor1 I never thought of Crosshaven! That would be nice alright another possibility. I think a golf club I don't know, that might be a-miss just for us but again another idea as they have everything there..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭pooch90


    Just to let you know, our humanist celebrant is €450 so not much pricier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Yep got a price from the Cork chap he said €460 but then that would make the whole thing €660 as you would need to do the whole legal side of it aswell..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    One fab day just put up some new venues look nice but all the opposite side of us http://onefabday.com/12-new-wedding-venues-ireland-2014/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭turbot


    Don't underestimate the value of a good wedding planner, even if you only pay them for an hour or two to get your thinking straight.
    The best wedding I've ever been to was made amazing because, in part, the planner was top notch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Oh id say they would be great alright but just the extra cost of one. Do you know how much you would be talking for one..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    My head is wrecked :( !! to put it nicely... We visited another place this evening DunOwen house Clonakilty. Would be the perfect venue for a smaller more intimate wedding. The former abode of Noel Redding! So stepped in nice history. More of a modern building but the lady that runs it is very friendly and the house has a lovely atmosphere about it. The only thing is there isn't much accommodation close by for other guest. So that would be a problem as I know myself I would not fancy making a big trip to a hotel after all the celebrations..

    But the price of the venue is very good compared to others.

    Then on the way home we called into Innishannon house and were quite surprised for a hotel it is quite quirky and cozy. We completely surprised them with a visit and was welcomed warmly with a nice tour of what rooms they have and the banquet room.. We are heading back tomorrow to chat about the food.

    Still looking back and comparing things to Blackwater but it is just the price..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Well got onto the HSE the other day after more or less deciding on a date and venue. Must say they are fast workers well in Cork anywho. Emailed them late one evening and by the next day they were back to me, and bang appointment made to see them in April..Wow I was worrying as such how would you guarantee that the register was booked for your day when it is next year but there was nothing so far to worry about they have us booked in.

    Still in a dilemma as to what to do with the venue.. Need more lady friends to talk to everyone I know live abroad or elsewhere in Ireland tis pants to put it nicely..

    I think we can make our venue work but I worry is it too much, and too much money also..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    Do you want to tell us where you decided on and maybe you can get some more input here? You seem to have done a lot of research and looked at quite a few places and are clear about what you want, so I'm sure it's amazing!

    Here's the checklist of what we went through when we were deciding on venues:
    Gut feel
    Accommodation on site or nearby for guests
    On site accommodation for bridal party and families
    Takes our numbers
    Suitability of available dates (NB Saturday)
    Amazing/ wow house and grounds
    Distance from church
    Good hosts/ owners
    Unusual/ different/ new
    Food reputation
    In house catering
    Choice of menu
    Available and suitable for Day 2
    Any extras provided
    Costs (obviously)
    Experience

    No place ticked all the boxes, but it was good to put our minds at rest that we had chosen the right place. Everyone would have a different list though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭kkcatlou


    Milly33 wrote: »
    Well got onto the HSE the other day after more or less deciding on a date and venue. Must say they are fast workers well in Cork anywho. Emailed them late one evening and by the next day they were back to me, and bang appointment made to see them in April

    Also, just wanted to ask - how soon in advance do you need to make the appointment with the registrar? We hope to register our wedding in May (for September). Should we be getting onto them now? We only have one day off, so we need to do it that day? Or will they think we are ridiculous asking for an appointment this far in advance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Pistachios & cream


    The venue is the most important decision you will make. A good venue can help you save money by allowing you to do lots of DIY and helping to make it work on the day. I'm doing lots of DIY for our wedding and one of the reasons we picked our venue was because they were so accommodating about that. It means i can have the day i want without a boat load of stress or it costing an arm and a leg. There are lots of little extras that i like but which i couldn't justifying paying an outside company for. However with the hotels help i'll get these and still have spent the majority of the budget on the areas that affect the guests most (food, band and drink).

    If your venue is open to DIY and helping you put it together on the day then i'd say you can probably make it work budgetwise. Going by your previous posts it sounds like you are happy to take on plenty of DIY.

    Also good to see how accommodating they are about corkage. That can really help with the prices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    I worked in events for a while and ran weddings for our venue. If you're still looking for a venue, this is what you need to bear in mind:
    • BUDGET!! Work out what that is and STICK TO IT.
    • Where do you want to get married? Narrow down the area
    • What you do want from the venue?
    • Does the venue allow you your own flowers, caterers, fireworks
    • Decide what will be a dealbreaker for you and what you can compromise on
    • Don't be afraid to haggle! Bar Extensions, room upgrades, special rates for your guests
    • Another thing I always used to tell brides: Make sure someone from your venue is available to run the day for you. Nothing worse than looking around for hotel staff if you need something...
    • Corkage! If you're bringing your own, then check the prices for the corkage. Expect to pay E5-7 a bottle for wine, 10-20 a bottle for sparkling/champagne. Get the booze on a sale or return basis. Have someone from the hotel count the bottles in and out, and sign for the same.
    • If you're serving your cake as dessert, ask about any charges to cut and serve it.

    That's all I can think of for now. Hope this helps someone, if not you, Milly. PM me if you need any more help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    kkcatlou wrote: »
    Also, just wanted to ask - how soon in advance do you need to make the appointment with the registrar? We hope to register our wedding in May (for September). Should we be getting onto them now? We only have one day off, so we need to do it that day? Or will they think we are ridiculous asking for an appointment this far in advance?

    As long as you give at least three months notice, you'll be fine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Hello hello, oh thank ye so much!! :) Sorry if I am venting haha jes Id hate to see myself closer to the day and its in a year. The only reason I contacted the registry office as such was to make sure the date was held for us as it was a Friday we are looking for and I heard they get booked out pretty quickly. At lesat then you are guarnteed to have the day ye want and it is another less thing to worry about. I did think alright it was mad given us an appointment this early, i thought they would just hold the date for us or pencil us in somewhere but sure if this is the way to do it..

    Oh im mad for DIY have been bad lately as to be honest as I have nothing really to make for, so wedding im like whooppp getting my pritt stick and fancy siccors on the go!! And wine of couse :)..

    Looking at the list there ok


    Gut feel - it does have a lovely feel to the place very relaxed and there is lots of space.
    Accommodation on site or nearby for guests - there is plenty for us and family and more. This is included in the price of the place itself so it is up to us what we charge our guests.

    On site accommodation for bridal party and families - Yep and we wont have to pay any extra for lets say our parents.

    Takes our numbers - it does and more. I think I was going more by the perfect venue than the amount of people. We can make numbers up if we need to as such.

    Suitability of available dates (NB Saturday) - it is free on the dates we pick (weak) and supposably we have the register booked for it also.

    Amazing/ wow house and grounds - it is loverly
    Distance from church - no need for one, and price is covered in the venue cost

    Good hosts/ owners - very nice indeed and the money goes towards the upkeep of the venue which is nice.

    Unusual/ different/ new - yes and yes

    Food reputation - we would have to bring in catereers.
    In house catering - there is access to a full kitchen
    Choice of menu - up to us really
    Available and suitable for Day 2 - yep indeedy
    Any extras provided - chairs and tables and a bar ready to go less the drink

    The thing that worries me is that I can see it all going a bit mad. I have certain ideas for what i would like there and I wonder would this all cost too much. Lets say I want to decorate one of the rooms which would more than likely be the dance room with white curtains walls (not sure what you call them really) like Franc does to fancy up venues.

    And also we can take if for 3 days and 2 nights. Which going by what we had planned we would need but we would also need the day before to decorate the venue, do we pay an extra grand to defianly hold the venue so we can stay there the night before the wedding and decorate or €500 lets say to guarantee if it free the day before the wedding to decorate but not stay.

    And then would stocking the bar and getting in Catereers be mad. I do have a few contacts with bars, and lets say a wine supply but still not sure myself how much a keg costs now adays..

    It really is ticking all the boxes if it was just maybe a grand or two grand cheaper haha.. Asking for a lot arent I but there is no budiging... Do we go for it and fingers crossed it will all work out in the end or abandon ship now and start from scratch..

    Thanks ladies again it is good to talk.. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Thank you Abajanin also, mmm may be asking you if you know some suppliers alright if we needed them which no doubt we will.

    The venue is actually great, there is no problem with decorating we do it ourselves or whatever we want to do.

    No corkagae as we stock the bar ourselfs, which is good and bad.
    I would be all for serving the cake as dessert also, think it is a waste otherwise, but again we can do what we like really. Himself likes cake so hell have one and Im having some cheese yummie a cheese wheel i was thinking. And that way you cand serve as nibbles.

    The budget yes it is hard to say..I can say I was wrong I thought most defiantly we would not go over but it is the venue is the hardest thing to get correct. With the one we found we would be going over budget for a short time really. As we would probably make it back from gifts. I hate to think that as i am not a money person but I suppose you do in the end. The venue more or less is costing half the budget!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Pistachios & cream


    I was at a wedding recently that had a similar venue as you are looking at. What the Bride and Groom did was to provide the alcohol for the drinks reception Beer, cider, prosecco and one keg for Guinness i think, wine with the meal and then had the caterers do a cash bar for the rest of the evening. I think license wise the caterers need to have an alcohol license to charge for alcohol. But that would make it cheaper for you then having to buy alcohol for everyone.

    Also if you have a full kitchen available to you you can probably do your own canapes and evening food. Sandwiches, mini quiches, lots of savoury things can be made in advance and just set out for people to pick at later.
    I would have loved a private venue like that but unfortunately with the size of my family i couldn't get one at a reasonable price so i've gotten a compromise that i'm happy with.

    Regarding the white curtains. I met with a guy who does these. He is on facebook, alan's wedding hire and i thought his prices were very reasonable. I also think he would setup the morning of the wedding so you wouldn't need to pay for the extra day hire. He does those curtains, uplighters, seat covers, table decorations so you might be able to do a deal with him.


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