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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread III

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    #272
    shuffol
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    If we manage to beat England it'll be the best win over them since 2004 IMO, I think they've a super side developing there. I still dont think we carry much of a threat in open play, we're the smartest most miserly side in the tournament though and have a coach who's an expert in finding chinks in the oppositions armour. If we do win I suspect it wont be too pretty.

    I'm just delighted that barring a disaster we'll be going into the final weekend of the 6N with a shot at the trophy, too often in the past few years we've been out of it at this stage and the excitements died.


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    #273
    The Pheasant2
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    We should target players like Farrell and Hartley who are known to be easily riled. Try and get under their skin like we did to Phillips yesterday - just frustrate the hell out of them in the hope of forcing some errors


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    #274
    sullivlo
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    The Pheasant2 wrote: »
    We should target players like Farrell and Hartley who are known to be easily riled. Try and get under their skin like we did to Phillips yesterday - just frustrate the hell out of them in the hope of forcing some errors

    Did you see Farrels push on Scotland scrum half yesterday after England knocked on the ball? Disgusting.


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    #275
    danthefan
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    sullivlo wrote: »
    Did you see Farrels push on Scotland scrum half yesterday after England knocked on the ball? Disgusting.

    Ahh give it a rest. There are a few Irish players that I won't name who have been well known to get involved in that sort of thing.


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    #276
    shuffol
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    sullivlo wrote: »
    Did you see Farrels push on Scotland scrum half yesterday after England knocked on the ball? Disgusting.

    It was unnecessary but disgusting is certainly over egging it, I actually cant stop laughing every time I watch the clip, Farrells expression makes him look like a child playing tag in a playground.

    http://balls.ie/rugby/video-owen-farrell-pushes-chris-cusiter/


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    #277
    shuffol
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    Not sure if I'm correct on this but have Ireland now gone 2 full games without effecting a single successful choke tackle? A change of tack with Kiss gone or other sides copping on.


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    #278
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Ahh give it a rest. There are a few Irish players that I won't name who have been well known to get involved in that sort of thing.

    Don't recall any Irish player doing stuff like that as consistently as Farrell does it


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    #279
    Deano7788
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    shuffol wrote: »
    Not sure if I'm correct on this but have Ireland now gone 2 full games without effecting a single successful choke tackle? A change of tack with Kiss gone or other sides copping on.

    Kiss isn't gone.


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    #280
    danthefan
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Don't recall any Irish player doing stuff like that as consistently as Farrell does it

    Possibly not but we do have players who have done that sort of stuff, totally unnecessarily. Irish rugby fans can be awfully sanctimonious at times imo. But anyway, lets not get bogged down in it, after such a good win yesterday which was basically built on discipline.


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    #281
    phog
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    shuffol wrote: »
    Not sure if I'm correct on this but have Ireland now gone 2 full games without effecting a single successful choke tackle? A change of tack with Kiss gone or other sides copping on.

    Are you sure?


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    #282
    The Pheasant2
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    shuffol wrote: »
    It was unnecessary but disgusting is certainly over egging it, I actually cant stop laughing every time I watch the clip, Farrells expression makes him look like a child playing tag in a playground.

    http://balls.ie/rugby/video-owen-farrell-pushes-chris-cusiter/

    Big smile across his face as he pushes nice 'ol Chris Cusiter :mad: Hope we'll be sending Healy down his channel a few times at Twickenham!


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    #283
    Podge_irl
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    shuffol wrote: »
    Not sure if I'm correct on this but have Ireland now gone 2 full games without effecting a single successful choke tackle? A change of tack with Kiss gone or other sides copping on.

    Kiss is still there...


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    #284
    shuffol
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    Deano7788 wrote: »
    Kiss isn't gone.

    Right you are, my mistake.


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    #285
    Tox56
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Possibly not but we do have players who have done that sort of stuff, totally unnecessarily. Irish rugby fans can be awfully sanctimonious at times imo. But anyway, lets not get bogged down in it, after such a good win yesterday which was basically built on discipline.

    Just like pointless crap like Farrell's push isn't limited to other countries (not that I think that was the implication), Irish fans aren't the only ones who are 'sanctimonious' about that stuff when it suits them. Sports fans are sports fans everywhere


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    #286
    sullivlo
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    shuffol wrote: »
    It was unnecessary but disgusting is certainly over egging it, I actually cant stop laughing every time I watch the clip, Farrells expression makes him look like a child playing tag in a playground.

    http://balls.ie/rugby/video-owen-farrell-pushes-chris-cusiter/

    Perhaps disgusting was a but harsh :P

    Uncalled for.


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    #287
    Fireball07
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    Looking at France today, I really think that we will be too structured, organised and clinical for them.


    England are going to be the real test, they're a very solid outfit. The same plan that worked against Wales and Scotland mightn't work to the same extent against England, we won't beat them up up front. We'll have to add something else... and I'm sure we will.


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    #288
    molloyjh
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    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Looking at France today, I really think that we will be too structured, organised and clinical for them.


    England are going to be the real test, they're a very solid outfit. The same plan that worked against Wales and Scotland mightn't work to the same extent against England, we won't beat them up up front. We'll have to add something else... and I'm sure we will.

    I was in no way impressed by England yesterday. Scotland were utter pants and when they were down to 14 men and England were in their 22 knocking on the door the English couldn't convert that into points at all. They only managed 7 points in the entire second half. One score. Against a Scottish team that were that bad.


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    #289
    TheGoldenAges
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    Anyone have an idea what the changes in the rankings will be after this weekend?


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    #290
    ssaye2
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    TheGoldenAges wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea what the changes in the rankings will be after this weekend?


    I Imagine we swapped 7th and 6th with wales only

    http://www.irb.com/rankings/sportid=1/ranking/index.html Last weeks


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    #291
    former legend
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    TheGoldenAges wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea what the changes in the rankings will be after this weekend?

    Yes we now go sixth behind France in fifth and England in fourth


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    #292
    Kayless
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    http://www.thescore.ie/mike-phillips-niall-horan-twitter-1307742-Feb2014/ :eek:


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    #293
    uggybear
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    wonder who's going to get a call up to replace Dan Touhy in the second row alongside O'Connell and Toner?


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    #294
    Fireball07
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    uggybear wrote: »
    wonder who's going to get a call up to replace Dan Touhy in the second row alongside O'Connell and Toner?

    You'd imagine it'd be Henderson, since he got the call when POC was out?


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    #295
    danthefan
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    uggybear wrote: »
    wonder who's going to get a call up to replace Dan Touhy in the second row alongside O'Connell and Toner?

    McCarthy or Henderson - not a concern really tbh.


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    #296
    Taco Corp
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    danthefan wrote: »
    McCarthy or Henderson - not a concern really tbh.

    how nice it is to be able to say that


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    #297
    uggybear
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    Was very impressed by Henderson's performance in the Wolfhounds game vs England Saxons, think he should get a spot in the squad.


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    #298
    wp_rathead
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    Macca or Henderson can easily fill spot on bench - great to have such options available


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    #299
    former legend
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    McCarthy was probably ahead of Tuohy prior to the Scotland game so I'd say he's most likely to slot back in. Henderson might be the more exciting impact sub but it's going to be a serious dog-fight up front against England and that will probably swing it for McCarthy.


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    #300
    LeeroyJones
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    former legend wrote: »
    McCarthy was probably ahead of Tuohy prior to the Scotland game so I'd say he's most likely to slot back in. Henderson might be the more exciting impact sub but it's going to be a serious dog-fight up front against England and that will probably swing it for McCarthy.

    I understand where you're coming from but I would be wary of limiting ourselves to England's capabilities.
    While responding to England's gameplan we shouldn't lose sight of our own. Yes, pick a side that can armwrestle against them but we should not be afraid to play our style of rugby. For that reason I would keep a hold of POC and Toner to start and front up to their pack but as the game goes on an gaps begin to appear I would prefer to have Henderson coming on rather than McCarthy


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    #301
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Not a fear Toner is going to be dropped. Only a few short months ago I thought he was just going get a few token caps until Ryan came back from injury and Henderson stepped up

    But he's now established himself as Irelands first choice lock alongside Paulie. He's going to be an important player for us come the world cup imo


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