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Stingiest things thread(op for R&R access)

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    #5072
    dubstarr
    Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    :eek:

    You’ll double down so little point in continuing here but jesus. The tills will be out for the day. That will have to be explained.

    The tills wont be down as the original price was paid out.Plus most places have a customer service desk.So different tills.


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    #5073
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    ncmc wrote: »
    You're not listening to logic, there is no way they can find out or anyone get in trouble. He returned a pair of unworn boots with a valid receipt. Whether or not they were the exact physical pair of boots listed on the receipt is irrelevent and unprovable as they do not have a serial number or any other identifying information.

    That’s naive. These things can absolutely be noticed. One assistant to another: “Hey, wasn’t he in a little while ago? Why did you give him such a large refund on a sale item?”. When I worked in a shoe shop, my supervisor was incredibly clued in and observant to mistakes and discrepancies. She wouldn’t be looking for mistakes, she was just very sharp. And sales assistants do remember customers and what they bought. And often other assistants note things too. The sales assistant probably knew full well what he was up to but couldn’t prove it. Awful stuff altogether and a horrible position to put somebody in.


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    #5074
    Shelflife
    Registered Users Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    It’s def underhand behaviour.

    Is it theft/fraud ? I’d say yes as he has deceived the shop and denied them the profit that they we’re entitled to and that he was happy to pay for at the time.

    Not a very nice thing to do to a business very underhand and sharp practice!


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    #5075
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Shelflife wrote: »
    It’s def underhand behaviour.

    Is it theft/fraud ? I’d say yes as he has deceived the shop and denied them the profit that they we’re entitled to and that he was happy to pay for at the time.

    Not a very nice thing to do to a business very underhand and sharp practice!

    Exactly. He agreed to the price he paid.


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    #5076
    dubstarr
    Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    That’s naive. These things can absolutely be noticed. One assistant to another: “Hey, wasn’t he in a little while ago? Why did you give him such a large refund on a sale item?”. When I worked in a shoe shop, my supervisor was incredibly clued in and observant to mistakes and discrepancies. She wouldn’t be looking for mistakes, she was just very sharp. And sales assistants do remember customers and what they bought. And often other assistants note things too. The sales assistant probably knew full well what he was up to but couldn’t prove it. Awful stuff altogether and a horrible position to put somebody in.

    Seriously i worked in a shop.And i wouldnt know one customer from another.Unless they where regulars or did something that made me remember them.

    He brought back the same boots in new form.There wont be discrepancy though,he had a receipt for the boots he brought back.The receipt and the boots match,he brought them back within the timeframe.The shop are the ones that reduced the boots.So to get a pair back they can still sell in the sale


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    #5077
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I mean a manager signed off on the return though. If they turn around and give out to a sales assistant then that's not on the customer.

    He agreed to the price, they agreed to the return.

    It's like being cross that you gave someone twenty euro, they gave it back but it was a different note.


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    #5078
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    dubstarr wrote: »
    Seriously i worked in a shop.And i wouldnt know one customer from another.Unless they where regulars or did something that made me remember them.

    He brought back the same boots in new form.There wont be discrepancy though,he had a receipt for the boots he brought back.The receipt and the boots match,he brought them back within the timeframe.The shop are the ones that reduced the boots.So to get a pair back they can still sell in the sale

    My experience was different. I remembered many customers. And was on a number of occasions faced with pisstakers that you knew were being underhand but you couldn’t pin it on them because of loopholes like the beer revolu exploited (and admitted was sharp practice). As a lowly sales assistant, it was an shitty position to be placed in. But Smirky Joe gets a lump of money back so who cares, right? Ugh.


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    #5079
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,898 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I wonder what would the op done if the store didn't offer a refund and he was then stuck with two pairs of boots?


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    #5080
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I wonder what would the op done if the store didn't offer a refund and he was then stuck with two pairs of boots?

    Well, I knew that the store offered refunds with a receipt. If for whatever reason, the didn't refund the larger amount, I'd have just returned the new ones for the lesser amount.


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    #5081
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    ODB, please explain how the till would be out as you claimed.


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    #5082
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    I've made some questionable life choices before but reading the last 4 pages is definitely up there.


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    #5083
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,898 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Well, I knew that the store offered refunds with a receipt. If for whatever reason, the didn't refund the larger amount, I'd have just returned the new ones for the lesser amount.

    I mean in general. If the store policy was not to give cash refunds (which they are not required to do in the case of a change of mind) then what would you have done?


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    #5084
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I mean in general. If the store policy was not to give cash refunds (which they are not required to do in the case of a change of mind) then what would you have done?

    Nothing.
    I'd just have been cross.


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    #5085
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    ODB, please explain how the till would be out as you claimed.

    Oh no, I’m sorry I made a mistake there. Clearly, this was totally fine because of that error.

    You admitted that it was sharp practice and deception in this post or at least “accepted” it. You can’t really defend it after that. Likely they knew you were exploiting a loophole and had no choice but to refund you. I recall dealing with people like that.

    On a popular thread, your post about this story is lightly thanked. That’s telling.
    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Oh, give over.
    There is no possibility of this coming back on the sales assistant of the manager.
    None.

    They refunded €179 for a pair of boots, with a receipt for that amount.

    I will accept sharp practice.
    I will accept a level of deception.

    The notion that the sales assistant could lose their job - no.
    Not.
    Ever.


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    #5086
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,898 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Nothing.
    I'd just have been cross.

    At yourself for trying to pull a fast one I assume seeing as the shop wouldn't have done anything wrong? But at least you would have gotten store credit or a second pair of boots out of it I suppose.


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    #5087
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    dubstarr wrote: »
    Seriously i worked in a shop.And i wouldnt know one customer from another.Unless they where regulars or did something that made me remember them.

    He brought back the same boots in new form.There wont be discrepancy though,he had a receipt for the boots he brought back.The receipt and the boots match,he brought them back within the timeframe.The shop are the ones that reduced the boots.So to get a pair back they can still sell in the sale

    It's still fraud though.
    He accepted the original price and entered into a contract for that price.
    It was his tough luck that the price dropped subsequently.
    If we all did this when we saw a price drop, imagine the fallout.

    To thine own self be true



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    #5088
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    It's up there with a young wan buying a dress for a disco on Saturday night,wearing the dress with the label concealed and then taking it back on Monday for a refund and claiming it was never worn.
    Pure shneaky.

    To thine own self be true



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    #5089
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    It's up there with a young wan buying a dress for a disco on Saturday night,wearing the dress with the label concealed and then taking it back on Monday for a refund and claiming it was never worn.
    Pure shneaky.

    I have nothing but contempt for people who pull shit like that. They genuinely don’t see what’s wrong with it. SO entitled.


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    #5090
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    At yourself for trying to pull a fast one I assume seeing as the shop wouldn't have done anything wrong? But at least you would have gotten store credit or a second pair of boots out of it I suppose.

    I wouldn't have bought the cheaper pair if I hadn't known that they would offer a refund as per store policy.


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    #5091
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Let's imagine another scenario.
    I had bought the boots but hadn't worn
    them. On seeing the reduced boots, I bought them and returned the original boots.
    Would that be OK?
    If not, why not?

    In this imagined scenario, the result to the shop would be identical to the result in my actual scenario.


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    #5092
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    It's up there with a young wan buying a dress for a disco on Saturday night,wearing the dress with the label concealed and then taking it back on Monday for a refund and claiming it was never worn.
    Pure shneaky.

    Difference being that I returned the boots unused.


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    #5093
    dubstarr
    Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Let's imagine another scenario.
    I had bought the boots but hadn't worn the
    them. On see the reduced boots, I bought them and returned the original boots.
    Would that be OK?
    If not, why not?

    In this imagined scenario, the result to the shop would be identical to the result in my actual scenario.

    It was 100 euro not a fiver.Thats better off in your pocket than the shops.


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    #5094
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Difference being that I returned the boots unused.

    You know there’s different ways to deceive, right? And you admitted it was deception.


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    #5095
    radiata
    Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭radiata


    Please close this thread. Was looking forward to some stinge stories not 5 pages about boots


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    #5096
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,818 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    radiata wrote: »
    Please close this thread. Was looking forward to some stinge stories not 5 pages about boots

    Sorry, I'd no idea the shltstorm it would be.
    I'll stop.
    Favourite thread of mine, too.

    Mods, perhaps delete the lot?
    (rather than close thread)


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    #5097
    OhHiMark
    Registered Users Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭OhHiMark


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Just brought it to highlight that people are often not straight with each other. I wouldn’t point out the underhandedness if it wasn’t worth the hassle but I’d forever think less of the person. One case might be more serious than the other but I would find both knackery, to different degrees.

    What is the difference between this person doing what they did, and buying the boots for 179, never wearing them, buying the same boots for 69 2 weeks later, and then returning the original pair?


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    #5098
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users Posts: 7,507 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    no need to delete everything. this si a good stinge story. nothing ilegal as far as i can see. ****ty and bit lowsy of course.


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    #5099
    tara73
    Registered Users Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭tara73


    radiata wrote: »
    Please close this thread. Was looking forward to some stinge stories not 5 pages about boots


    yes, was hoping the same and reminded me that there were once great stinge story threads. why are they gone...???:(


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    #5100
    kenmc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,276 ✭✭✭kenmc


    I fail to see the theft too.

    If he bought them for 179 and brought the same pair back for a full refund, and then bought the next day at the sale price of 69, the net result is they sold a pair of boots for 69 euro.


    As it stands, they sold a pair of boots for 179, and another pair for 69. They refunded the full price of one pair. The end result is still that they sold one pair of boots, for 69 euro.

    Similarly if he had bought the boots, not worn them, and seen them reduced, brought them back for a full refund and bought them again right there and then, no loss to the shop, still one pair of boots sold, 69 euro.

    They are no worse off in any scenario, ergo no theft.

    It does go to show the importance of keeping your receipt though, as he could not have done this without one, or if outside the returns policy window.


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    #5101
    Shelflife
    Registered Users Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    kenmc wrote: »
    I fail to see the theft too.

    If he bought them for 179 and brought the same pair back for a full refund, and then bought the next day at the sale price of 69, the net result is they sold a pair of boots for 69 euro.


    As it stands, they sold a pair of boots for 179, and another pair for 69. They refunded the full price of one pair. The end result is still that they sold one pair of boots, for 69 euro.

    Similarly if he had bought the boots, not worn them, and seen them reduced, brought them back for a full refund and bought them again right there and then, no loss to the shop, still one pair of boots sold, 69 euro.

    They are no worse off in any scenario, ergo no theft.

    It does go to show the importance of keeping your receipt though, as he could not have done this without one, or if outside the returns policy window.

    The shop is worse off, they still have the same number of shoes but they have €110 less in their till than they should have !


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