LPG for me?

jprboy

slimjimmc wrote: »

And that's just fine for a great many of people who live/travel in the vicinity of any one of those stations. According to that map there are 4 stations on or near my frequently travelled routes that I could use if I decided to convert.

Exactly.

I have a 55 mile commute each way and, even though it's a mainly rural area I'm travelling through, I still pass 2 stations.

unkel

Hachiko wrote: »

what is the 'payback' on a lpg install vs the value of the car?

What has the "vs the value of the car" to do with anything? Some people put in €2k LPG installations into €1k cars. The LPG installation is an immediate write off but for someone doing above average miles in a typical petrol car it pays for itself within a year, possbily within 6 months even

Depends on the mileage and on the cost (and extra maintenance) of the installation and on the fuel consumption of the car before and after...

Hachiko

yeah, if it works for you and you do get a reasonable return from the lpg install well and good, its not for me though.

unkel

So you still haven't thread the thread - my thread - then?

Hachiko

nope !

jprboy

I've got a price for the STAG system and it appears that to keep the warranty this system requires a service every 10-12K km. Only costs €30.

Only thing is that I live 100 miles from the installer and, based on my annual mileage, this would require 3 trips per year for this service.

Any one have any idea of what's involved in this service and if it could possibly be carried out by other installers or even by an independent mechanic?

My location is in North Tipperary.

toyotaavensis

You would have to ask your installer about this.

jprboy

toyotaavensis wrote: »

You would have to ask your installer about this.

My emails aren't being answered, unfortunately, so I was just trying to see what others experience is.

mullingar

jprboy wrote: »

Any one have any idea of what's involved in this service and if it could possibly be carried out by other installers or even by an independent mechanic?

The in-line fuel filters need to be changed, the components need to be checked to be secure, checks for leaks, reducers pressure output checked (via a PC) and also checked for any software errors.

Beaver1

jprboy wrote: »

I've got a price for the STAG system and it appears that to keep the warranty this system requires a service every 10-12K km. Only costs €30.

Only thing is that I live 100 miles from the installer and, based on my annual mileage, this would require 3 trips per year for this service.

Any one have any idea of what's involved in this service and if it could possibly be carried out by other installers or even by an independent mechanic?

My location is in North Tipperary.

I had a choice of 2 installs, 1 cost €800 plus vat and the other cost €1200 plus vat, the cheaper one had to be serviced every 7000km and the other had to be serviced every 50k km. like you I live far from the installer so I went for the expensive one.

toyotaavensis

Beaver1 wrote: »

I had a choice of 2 installs, 1 cost €800 plus vat and the other cost €1200 plus vat, the cheaper one had to be serviced every 7000km and the other had to be serviced every 50k km. like you I live far from the installer so I went for the expensive one.

was that a prins system? If so what car have you?

Beaver1

toyotaavensis wrote: »

was that a prins system? If so what car have you?

it was yeah, a ford focus 1.6

Hachiko

lpg in a 1.6 focus.......srsly?!

jharr100

Hachiko wrote: »

lpg in a 1.6 focus.......srsly?!

Why not?
Is LPG exclusive to luxobarges?
Whatever works for the driver themselves I say.

unkel

Hachiko wrote: »

lpg in a 1.6 focus.......srsly?!

Not sure what your hang up is about LPG only suitable for large engines?

In the Netherlands in the 70s and 80s about 80-90% of all company cars were petrol engined LPG converted cars. The vast majority of them 4 cylinder cars below 2l

Today, once a car has lower variable costs running on LPG than on diesel, LPG is a viable alternative. No matter how small the engine.

Beaver1

Hachiko wrote: »

lpg in a 1.6 focus.......srsly?!

just read your post your one person I wont be taking srsly, nothing but negative things to say on all posts, I smell a troll

toyotaavensis

He is just trolling but seriously, how are you finding the lpg with the focus?
Is the mpg down much?
Is she paying for herself?
Have you many miles done since the conversion?

Hachiko

1.6 petrol with lpg, that is just funny tbh.

do people in Ireland just fret about fuel and not enjoy driving for what it is anymore? seems not.

wonski

Hachiko wrote: »

1.6 petrol with lpg, that is just funny tbh.

do people in Ireland just fret about fuel and not enjoy driving for what it is anymore? seems not.

I know 2 people who drive 1.4 powered by LPG. Great savings made without paying top dollars to upgrade to diesel.

Nothing wrong with that. Are you trolling or do you have an evidence of 1.4-1.6 not suitable for LPG?

Beaver1

toyotaavensis wrote: »

He is just trolling but seriously, how are you finding the lpg with the focus?
Is the mpg down much?
Is she paying for herself?
Have you many miles done since the conversion?

I think its great, had a bit of a problem at the start I had to change the coil pack and add high performance plugs as it was doing a lot of stuttering just like the troll above lol, but its going like a dream now, Im getting 400km to €40 were I was getting 400km to about €70 on petrol, tbh the reason i converted was Im keeping the car forever so I might as well have cheap gas in it, I have about 3k km done since the conversion.

its a no brainer really, I enjoy driving a lot more now seeing that its cheap to run.

jca

My father had LPG in a 1.4 Renault 18, we then put the kit into a 1.6 Opel ascona. I had a kit in a mk2 1300 cortina. I don't agree that LPG is the preserve of 3 litre cars. Everyone using LPG will get the same savings regardless of engine size.

Hachiko

not trolling, just find it weird the trouble people go to save up on fuel, its hardly a tank ye are driving. but if it works out for you well and good.

spakks

A lad i work with converted a 1.2 punto and saves €30- €35 a week and it pays for his insurance tax and services costs for the year

kirving

I do about 450km/wk in a 1.8 Petrol, and get about 7.4 l/100km which works out at about €50/week give or take.

Would the fact that it's a FlexiFuel engine which can also take E85, mean that the LPG conversion process is less expensive? I've read (quickly) online that there is less modification required since the valves are harder, and that the ECU is already configured to cope with a wide range of fuel mixtures, so there is less work involved in the conversion process. Is this complete rubbish? Dropping the fuel bill to €30/wk (realistic?) would see me save €1000/year minus the conversion cost.

Beaver1

Hachiko wrote: »

not trolling, just find it weird the trouble people go to save up on fuel, its hardly a tank ye are driving. but if it works out for you well and good.

your trolling, when you dont contribute to a thread and just try to get a reaction, its trolling and you seem to do it on every post you comment on even in other threads and this is my last post to you, so troll away.

quadrifoglio verde

Hachiko wrote: »

not trolling, just find it weird the trouble people go to save up on fuel, its hardly a tank ye are driving. but if it works out for you well and good.

In the long run it saves them money, which is why it makes sense.
It makes more sense in the larger engined cars, because you get the savings back faster.

And this paddyland, where some people will spend 10000 to save 300 a year in tax and a few euros at the pump. I don't know why you're surprised. At least those who go and convert an old car into lpg, see their saving back a lot faster.

galwaytt

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I do about 450km/wk in a 1.8 Petrol, and get about 7.4 l/100km which works out at about €50/week give or take.

Would the fact that it's a FlexiFuel engine which can also take E85, mean that the LPG conversion process is less expensive? I've read (quickly) online that there is less modification required since the valves are harder, and that the ECU is already configured to cope with a wide range of fuel mixtures, so there is less work involved in the conversion process. Is this complete rubbish? Dropping the fuel bill to €30/wk (realistic?) would see me save €1000/year minus the conversion cost.

You're right: whoever told you that should put in for a Pulitzer - for fiction. !!

unkel

Have you that 996 LPGd yet, galwaytt?

mullingar

Someone in Mullingar has an LPG'd 1.0 '99 Polo. I think he's related to the owner of the Maxol garage in Mullingar that has the LPG pump.

Stella Virgo

jca wrote: »

My father had LPG in a 1.4 Renault 18, we then put the kit into a 1.6 Opel ascona. I had a kit in a mk2 1300 cortina. I don't agree that LPG is the preserve of 3 litre cars. Everyone using LPG will get the same savings regardless of engine size.

getting on a bit now.....;) arent we...:D