PS4 sells 4.2 million units!

jenjenten

:eek: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/97-million-playstation-4-games-sold-so-far

It well beat the xbox one with 3 million units sold!....read the article as it has more numbers and info.

ShadowHearth

I think that number would be bigger and Xbox one. 3 million number would be smaller if there would more ps4 stock around. I bet there were a lot of Xbox one sold because they could not secure ps4 when wanted.
I know for sure if I could not get ps4 when . Wanted I would get Xbox one myself.

*awaits to be thrown to a cage with hungry pigs.

richymcdermott

Hopefully I get a ps4 by the end of the month ;D

323gtr

and i still cant get it. thanks sony for looking after ireland........

Retr0gamer

Whatever you do don't believe the 'sales' figures from both Sony and Microsoft. Sony and MS pull this stunt everytime they release something.

Sony and Microsoft quote shipped figures as sales figures. They are sales for Sony and MS but they aren't retail sales. Shipped sales are consoles shipped from the manufacturer to retailer warehouses. I very much doubt Sony sold 4+ million PS4's so far. I'd say it's closer to 2.5 million (a very good number) and they are quoting that figure after they shipped the latest batch of consoles to retailers before they are sold at retail. Similarly Microsoft's quote probably isn't taking into account units that are sitting unsold in retail, those would be counted as sold for them.

Sony pulled a similar stunt with the PS3 when it was clogging up game store storerooms and trying to pretend it was selling well.

TL;DR These are shipped and not sold figures so take them with a pinch of salt.

Captain Chaos

Well considering shops can't keep the PS4 in stock and are selling out as fast as they come in yet you can get an X1 with little trouble I'd believe the Sony figures are far more accurate than MS's in actual sales. I'd say 4 mil PS4s are out there but less than 3 mil X1s.

jenjenten

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Well considering shops can't keep the PS4 in stock yet and are selling out as fast as they come in yet you can get an X1 with little trouble I'd believe the Sony figures are far more accurate than MS's in actual sales.

this! - there are loads of X1 all over the shop now, you can walk in....the ps4 is still like gold dust. if they could make more every one would sell i am sure.

4.2m is amazing and sony is well on the way to sell 5-6 million by march, they may even exceed 6 million.

jenjenten

But even if the units arent sold it is still a sale for sony!...they ship units per orde requests that are paid for. it dosent matter if newegg order and pay for 10,000 units but only end up sell 10.....its still 10k worth of money.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Whatever you do don't believe the 'sales' figures from both Sony and Microsoft. Sony and MS pull this stunt everytime they release something.

Sony and Microsoft quote shipped figures as sales figures. They are sales for Sony and MS but they aren't retail sales. Shipped sales are consoles shipped from the manufacturer to retailer warehouses. I very much doubt Sony sold 4+ million PS4's so far. I'd say it's closer to 2.5 million (a very good number) and they are quoting that figure after they shipped the latest batch of consoles to retailers before they are sold at retail. Similarly Microsoft's quote probably isn't taking into account units that are sitting unsold in retail, those would be counted as sold for them.

Sony pulled a similar stunt with the PS3 when it was clogging up game store storerooms and trying to pretend it was selling well.

TL;DR These are shipped and not sold figures so take them with a pinch of salt.

ShadowHearth

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Well considering shops can't keep the PS4 in stock yet and are selling out as fast as they come in yet you can get an X1 with little trouble I'd believe the Sony figures are far more accurate than MS's in actual sales. I'd say 4 mil PS4s are out there but less than 3 mil X1s.

Indeed, shiped figures or not in Ps4 case are irrelevant as stock flies out of shops as soon as it lands.
Week after I Got my ps4 I walked in To gamestop and was offered Xbox one. It was not a second batch, it was a left over stock after people who preordered did not picked it up and they had backlog sorted too. Last time I was in Gamestop they were still trying to sort out ps4 Que and Xbox one on sale for walkings.

Retr0gamer

I'd say both are lying through their teeth here as usual. I mean this isn't even a conspiracy theory, it's basically their modus operandi and they will admit it but games 'journalists' just spout out any old PR piece they receive and take it as gospel. I'd say the PS4 sold more but no way did it reach 4+ million, I'd say that's a big after XMas batch that have just shipped to retailers which also includes some of the Japanese release day batch more than likely. I say this because getting 4+ million units made in the time frame between launch and xmas is way too hard to believe considering 2.5 million would be a phenomenal number. I'd say about 1 million of those are sitting in warehouses for the japanese launch and only shipped after xmas.

Microsoft I'd say are doing the same, I heard tales of retailers saying the WiiU outsold the One before Xmas. They are probably seriously trying to inflate figures, as I said Sony did the same when the PS3 was tanking at launch.

I'd be more interested in retail figures, it's obvious the PS4 did very well but I'm not so sure about the One and the WiiU (Nintendo are weird in that they differentiate between shipped and sold and only usually release retail sales figures).

jenjenten

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Indeed, shiped figures or not in Ps4 case are irrelevant as stock flies out of shops as soon as it lands.
Week after I Got my ps4 I walked in To gamestop and was offered Xbox one. It was not a second batch, it was a left over stock after people who preordered did not picked it up and they had backlog sorted too. Last time I was in Gamestop they were still trying to sort out ps4 Que and Xbox one on sale for walkings.

i am sure sony did lose sales to the X1 due to the fact there was no ps4. as you said a guy walks into gamestop to buy a ps4 and has money in hand....no ps4 so decides to buy the xbox one.

i am sure this scenario has been repeated many times and sony lost sales, so you could say sony could have sold alot more and the xbox one even less then 3 million.

its well known the xbox one is the second choice system......;)

jenjenten

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I heard tales of retailers saying the WiiU outsold the One before Xmas.

oh snap! ....LOL, that is the highest insult you could get, major burn!

Pushtrak

Even if the numbers were sold, anyhow, you'd have to factor in that the PS4 is out in a lot more areas than the One is. I'd have expected the One to not be doing nearly that well due to the price of the console alone. The more expensive console tends not to have a great start.

ShadowHearth

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd say both are lying through their teeth here as usual. I mean this isn't even a conspiracy theory, it's basically their modus operandi and they will admit it but games 'journalists' just spout out any old PR piece they receive and take it as gospel. I'd say the PS4 sold more but no way did it reach 4+ million, I'd say that's a big after XMas batch that have just shipped to retailers which also includes some of the Japanese release day batch more than likely. I say this because getting 4+ million units made in the time frame between launch and xmas is way too hard to believe considering 2.5 million would be a phenomenal number. I'd say about 1 million of those are sitting in warehouses for the japanese launch and only shipped after xmas.

Microsoft I'd say are doing the same, I heard tales of retailers saying the WiiU outsold the One before Xmas. They are probably seriously trying to inflate figures, as I said Sony did the same when the PS3 was tanking at launch.

I'd be more interested in retail figures, it's obvious the PS4 did very well but I'm not so sure about the One and the WiiU (Nintendo are weird in that they differentiate between shipped and sold and only usually release retail sales figures).

Big corporation LIE?! NO WAY!!! Those are the most trustable people in ther world! they would never do that to make themselves look better and more competitive then they actually are. Its very unfair tactic and those people are fair and decent folk! :pac:
Sorry, but what you said is a hard known truth. They always lie. Even lied now too, but it is still a number. A base of what reality is. Knowing the current state of demand and supply between all 3 consoles we can put our own estimates. So all in all we know that this number is not 100% true ( and in fairness it would be impossible to give a 100% accurate number ) and we know what is on the selves now. Sony is doing good and doing it right.

martingriff

jenjenten wrote: »

:eek: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/97-million-playstation-4-games-sold-so-far

It well beat the xbox one with 3 million units sold!....read the article as it has more numbers and info.

And still s%^t all games out for it.

martingriff

richymcdermott wrote: »

Hopefully I get a ps4 by the end of the month ;D

Went into my local Gamestop and due to there waiting list could be a couple of months

richymcdermott

martingriff wrote: »

Went into my local Gamestop and due to there waiting list could be a couple of months

my gawd .

martingriff

richymcdermott wrote: »

my gawd .

ya was surprised in a way. Say the guy misquoted himself but seeing the amount of game out for the PS4 I be waiting for a few months anyway

_Redzer_

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Indeed, shiped figures or not in Ps4 case are irrelevant as stock flies out of shops as soon as it lands.
Week after I Got my ps4 I walked in To gamestop and was offered Xbox one. It was not a second batch, it was a left over stock after people who preordered did not picked it up and they had backlog sorted too. Last time I was in Gamestop they were still trying to sort out ps4 Que and Xbox one on sale for walkings.

Didn't apple sell 9 million iPhones last launch over a weekend?

Tbh 4 million in 2 months is extremely doable and nothing shocking. I'd believe it, they're nowhere to be found.

richymcdermott

martingriff wrote: »

ya was surprised in a way. Say the guy misquoted himself but seeing the amount of game out for the PS4 I be waiting for a few months anyway

hopefully it wont be by march till I is available again since mgs ground zero is out very soon and I refuse to play it on ps3

Pushtrak

richymcdermott wrote: »

hopefully it wont be by march till I is available again since mgs ground zero is out very soon and I refuse to play it on ps3

That could be very short. Kojima has talked about how Phantom Pain is a hundred times bigger. Thing is, that works the other way too with Ground Zeroes a hundred times smaller. Personally, I don't plan on playing it till closer to release of Phantom Pain.

richymcdermott

Pushtrak wrote: »

That could be very short. Kojima has talked about how Phantom Pain is a hundred times bigger. Thing is, that works the other way too with Ground Zeroes a hundred times smaller. Personally, I don't plan on playing it till closer to release of Phantom Pain.

yeah I have been reading up on it ever since it got announced. Im a Metal Gear Nut with the series been my favourite of all time.

whether the game be 3 hours to 7 hour game I dont care , I get my money worth out of it :L

Pushtrak

richymcdermott wrote: »

yeah I have been reading up on it ever since it got announced. Im a Metal Gear Nut with the series been my favourite of all time.

whether the game be 3 hours to 7 hour game I dont care , I get my money worth out of it :L

My worry isn't the money so much as the waiting. Play it, and then waiting for Phantom Pain will be a lot worse. You know that's coming.

nesf

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Whatever you do don't believe the 'sales' figures from both Sony and Microsoft. Sony and MS pull this stunt everytime they release something.

Sony and Microsoft quote shipped figures as sales figures. They are sales for Sony and MS but they aren't retail sales. Shipped sales are consoles shipped from the manufacturer to retailer warehouses. I very much doubt Sony sold 4+ million PS4's so far. I'd say it's closer to 2.5 million (a very good number) and they are quoting that figure after they shipped the latest batch of consoles to retailers before they are sold at retail. Similarly Microsoft's quote probably isn't taking into account units that are sitting unsold in retail, those would be counted as sold for them.

Sony pulled a similar stunt with the PS3 when it was clogging up game store storerooms and trying to pretend it was selling well.

TL;DR These are shipped and not sold figures so take them with a pinch of salt.

Announcing shipping numbers is very normal in many industries where tracking retail sales is time consuming and any retail data is going to lag the shipping numbers by quite a bit. You might see a drop in shipping numbers before retail numbers not because a drop in retail sales hasn't happened yet but that the retail tracking system hasn't captured that data yet.

Sony/Microsoft could proxy retail sales through tracking registrations to their online service and they undoubtedly use these numbers internally and probably will start announcing them at some point, but really, announcing shipping numbers is totally normal. No conspiracy, just poor journalism.

2smiggy

due to amazon messing up my pre order and me complaining, I got the PS4 on the 13th of December instead of the 2nd of December, but only had to pay the tax on it as a sign of goodwill and also a €50 voucher for amazon.

they sent me an email saying the order was lost and i was been refunded, so i sent an angry email saying that i did not want the money, i wanted the PS4. an hour later a nice girl rang up telling me the good news. Initially I thought I was getting the Camera bundle for the price of the basic bundle, but what she meant was all I had to pay was the tax, around €26 I think it was !!

Skerries

so you got a free PS4 and only had to pay the tax?

Tipsy McSwagger

Even if those sales figures are true (which they are most likely not) the fact that the X1 has sold over 3 million units is pretty amazing after the disaster that was E3.

TireeTerror

Seriously, if anyone is waiting for a PS4 and they have to wait several months, just use that time to save a little extra and get yourself a PC, much better in every single way. CHeaper in the long run too as games are at least half the price!

Fawk Nin

TireeTerror wrote: »

Seriously, if anyone is waiting for a PS4 and they have to wait several months, just use that time to save a little extra and get yourself a PC, much better in every single way. CHeaper in the long run too as games are at least half the price!

The thought has crossed my mind a few times but I think I'll just stick with consoles in the long run.

Most of my friends have consoles, none play PC.

I have my room set up around consoles with a big screen tv. I know you can connect a PC to the tv but it just seems awkward, I'd have no where to put a monitor.

More intriguing exclusives on consoles. I know PC has a calvacade of indie titles but to be honest I get enough of an indie fix from what the consoles offer.

RasTa

TireeTerror wrote: »

Seriously, if anyone is waiting for a PS4 and they have to wait several months, just use that time to save a little extra and get yourself a PC, much better in every single way. CHeaper in the long run too as games are at least half the price!

Like a desktop? ewwwww

Nody

RasTa wrote: »

Like a desktop? ewwwww

Like a Steambox PC :P

Pushtrak

TireeTerror wrote: »

Seriously, if anyone is waiting for a PS4 and they have to wait several months, just use that time to save a little extra and get yourself a PC, much better in every single way. CHeaper in the long run too as games are at least half the price!

For the foreseeable, what with console not having good exclusives, the PC is better yes. At some point, the consoles will have exclusives to make them worth owning. Take a person who only gets one console, and isn't going to get the other. They aren't realistically going to get a good PC and a console.

They know they want the console, so they'll not get the PC. This thing where a person has to suggest a PC is kinda sad, honestly. It isn't as if anyone here is unaware of the arguments. They are either convincing to a person and they'll go with it, or they aren't. It isn't new information.

gaynorvader

Pushtrak wrote: »

For the foreseeable, what with console not having good exclusives, the PC is better yes. At some point, the consoles will have exclusives to make them worth owning. Take a person who only gets one console, and isn't going to get the other. They aren't realistically going to get a good PC and a console.

They know they want the console, so they'll not get the PC. This thing where a person has to suggest a PC is kinda sad, honestly. It isn't as if anyone here is unaware of the arguments. They are either convincing to a person and they'll go with it, or they aren't. It isn't new information.

Hey, you're right! Let's not talk about anything ever again as it's probably already been discussed elsewhere! :rolleyes:

Pushtrak

gaynorvader wrote: »

Hey, you're right! Let's not talk about anything ever again as it's probably already been discussed elsewhere! :rolleyes:

Talk about it sure, but it isn't going to make anyone think "Wow I never thought about that" for instance. I didn't say not to talk about it. I suggested a reason why doing so might not have a point.

Otacon

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Whatever you do don't believe the 'sales' figures from both Sony and Microsoft. Sony and MS pull this stunt everytime they release something.

Sony and Microsoft quote shipped figures as sales figures. They are sales for Sony and MS but they aren't retail sales.

TIME article

Today, House said the number of systems sold-through — that is, purchased by consumers, not just shipped to stores — has doubled, surpassing 4.2 million units worldwide.

MiskyBoyy

Don't forget tho guys that the PS4 is in nearly double the markets the Xbox One is in.

Also, there are currently 5+ PS4's in Argos Blanchardstown for anyone interested.
http://www.checkargos.com/StockCheckPage.php?productId=122%2F2540

RasTa

DaLad wrote: »

Don't forget tho guys that the PS4 is in nearly double the markets the Xbox One is in.

Means nothing tbh, xbox wouldn't sell in those markets anyway.

Both consoles have great numbers, Sony with 40% more sales seems right down to price.

Very surprised it's still sold out on amazon.com and co.uk

Those PS4's in Blanch are now sold out btw, just took 10mins.

MiskyBoyy

RasTa wrote: »

Means nothing tbh, xbox wouldn't sell in those markets anyway.

I doubt you can really say that.

The Xbox 360 sold 80 million Worldwide including even 1.5million in Japan as of 2011.

Just stating the facts that PS4 is now sold in 48 markets (more than I even thought) whilst Xbox One is sold in just 13.

Pushtrak

Thought I read somewhere its 32 for the PS4.

MiskyBoyy

Pushtrak wrote: »

Thought I read somewhere its 32 for the PS4.

It was at launch but they quickly added 16 more markets in December:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-12-13-ps4-launches-in-16-new-markets

Scenes similar to Black Friday in the U.S ensued:

CiDeRmAn

The type of gamer that gets a woody from this kind of news is not the type of gamer I'd be interested in spending time with.
Who bloody cares ?
Both machines sold millions.
Great.
Both consoles had a very successful launch.
Wonderful.
Does this mean our lives, even our gaming hobby is going to transformed in some way?
No, no it won't.
Until the revolutionary games turn up its just an elaborate paper weight.
Just like nearly every console that came before.

RasTa

DaLad wrote: »

I doubt you can really say that.

The Xbox 360 sold 80 million Worldwide including even 1.5million in Japan as of 2011.

Just stating the facts that PS4 is now sold in 48 markets (more than I even thought) whilst Xbox One is sold in just 13.

It's a weak point though(which you brought up btw), it's still sold out almost everywhere in Europe and the US. Where as the xbox is available everywhere

PS4 hasn't even released in Japan yet.

CiDeRmAn

Japan seems to be more interested in the Vita TV than the PS4

ShadowHearth

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The type of gamer that gets a woody from this kind of news is not the type of gamer I'd be interested in spending time with.
Who bloody cares ?
Both machines sold millions.
Great.
Both consoles had a very successful launch.
Wonderful.
Does this mean our lives, even our gaming hobby is going to transformed in some way?
No, no it won't.
Until the revolutionary games turn up its just an elaborate paper weight.
Just like nearly every console that came before.

M8, will you stop with this stuff already.

CiDeRmAn

ShadowHearth wrote: »

M8, will you stop with this stuff already.

With what?
Honestly what is the problem?
This isn't the first time I've been around spurious launch sales figures.
And I'm not the only person to point this out.
I have no issue with anyone who has one of either recently launched machine.
Browned off with the suggestion I've an agenda.
So, tell me, what is my agenda then, seeing as you are so quick to point out I have one.

ShadowHearth

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

With what?
Honestly what is the problem?
This isn't the first time I've been around spurious launch sales figures.
And I'm not the only person to point this out.
I have no issue with anyone who has one of either recently launched machine.
Browned off with the suggestion I've an agenda.
So, tell me, what is my agenda then, seeing as you are so quick to point out I have one.

This. Just stop it.

Pushtrak

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The type of gamer that gets a woody from this kind of news is not the type of gamer I'd be interested in spending time with.
Who bloody cares ?

They're both doing fine, and people should care to that point. If a system isn't doing so well, developers aren't going to want to develop games for it. That isn't an issue here, so it's moot. I want to see the consoles sell well, but that'd be about it.

CiDeRmAn

Is there a major difference in the online experience between the two machines, as there was in the previous gen, will this be a factor in Destiny I wonder?
Sorry to be of topic there.
Also, any idea when the two will finally launch in China, I imagine it'll be fascinating to see how a market hitherto living on counterfeit software respond to devices that, for now, demand expensive original software.

Praetorian

I spoke to staff in two different gamestops and both reckoned ps4's were outselling xbox ones 3 to 1. Both shops had plenty of xbox one stock. One girl told me she reckoned the ps4 shortages could be really bad for a few months due to 22nd Feb release in Japan.

Definitely advantage Sony at this stage. I'm sure both will be a success in the end. Sony will take the crown though. My only sore point is that I'll likely have to buy both to avoid missing out on really good exclusives for the next 5 years.

ShadowHearth

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Is there a major difference in the online experience between the two machines, as there was in the previous gen, will this be a factor in Destiny I wonder?
Sorry to be of topic there.
Also, any idea when the two will finally launch in China, I imagine it'll be fascinating to see how a market hitherto living on counterfeit software respond to devices that, for now, demand expensive original software.

I dont think we will see PS4 and Xbox in China legally any time soon. The "new Law" on console ban lift is not really clear and strong.

http://kotaku.com/hold-your-horses-dont-get-excited-about-consoles-in-c-1496933245

CiDeRmAn

Pushtrak wrote: »

They're both doing fine, and people should care to that point. If a system isn't doing so well, developers aren't going to want to develop games for it. That isn't an issue here, so it's moot. I want to see the consoles sell well, but that'd be about it.

Certainly the lack of decent third party content did for the DC and contributed to the unpopularity of the GC. Hoping the WiiU picks up this year.
But I don't think there's any chance the PS4 and Xbox One will be undersupported at all.
That said, given that MS developed the Indie dev scene on consoles they seem to be going out of their way to crap on that success while Sony have learned from the 360 and have cemented good relations with the Indie scene to their benefit.